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Title: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 17, 2017, 11:23:36 AM
When we get more boards and have a outline of choices, we are still going to need a place to just talk about nothing or everything.

Perhaps a bar where we all can meet and relax.

I don't know if we have a bartender yet, but whoever is there [tap,tap,tap - is this thing on?]
Can I please have a cup of coffee? A cranberry muffin and some bacon would be good, too. Thanks, whoever you are.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 17, 2017, 11:33:33 AM
Can't do without our virtual drink. And seeing as there's no Bar Keep at the moment.....*Helps herself* ;D

'Gimme your orders, folks.?'
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 17, 2017, 11:35:45 AM
Fred the Head Bartender has been unemployed for years now. I wonder if he's around somewhere and willing to work for what we pay.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 17, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
It should be a crime to have a perfectly good bartender unemployed!

FRED! Your big break is here good man! Now wipe the dust off that stuff and make yourself useful!




{Fred couldn't cut the mustard. Fortunately we were able to lure Bones}
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 17, 2017, 01:26:57 PM
I dare say Fred the Head and Bones could both be persuaded to share the running of the bar and grill.  I'm sure the temporal ambiguity of being in two places at the same time for a while won't bother them at all.

But does the jukebox in this place have the same selection of records?  Let's check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQo1HIcSVtg

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Heidi52 on December 17, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
We definitely need a bar. And if we put in one of these, I know it will make SpellChick very happy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 17, 2017, 01:52:59 PM
We need a fireplace as well, for these cold winter days and nights.  Where we can toast crumpets on a long fork and watch the fire-sprites dancing in their crumbling log grottoes.

Left click to enlarge

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 17, 2017, 01:58:13 PM
It's starting to feel a bit like home.

That coffee maker is awesome.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 17, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
Gyppo, I was just thinking of you a few days ago.

https://youtu.be/8Y6ruIXYmXY

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 17, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
Very appropriate tune, M'Dear.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 17, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Woo hoo, I must say I like it in here, how nice is this big comfy lounge
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 17, 2017, 07:18:48 PM
I agree FF. The new duds are quite cushy and comfortable.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 17, 2017, 07:23:01 PM
Where is your avatar bird?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 17, 2017, 08:37:59 PM
Where are all your signatures?

I copied mine because of the tiny.url thing.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 17, 2017, 08:38:35 PM
FF, you don't have your Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi thing going on either.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 17, 2017, 08:58:01 PM
I've just tested the search function, and it works.  Not that it has much to search through at the moment ;-)

My phone line is down at the moment, which is bloody inconvenient.  I used my ISPs automated checking facility, which initially told me there was nothing wrong with the line, then it changed its mind and asked me to book an appointment.  Nothing until Friday, because they are short of technicians in the area.

I really could do without this at this time.  I know it's to do with the gas people digging up the street last week.  Their holes filled with water and I could see the broadband cables swimming in there.   We had the same problem at my old address.

So I had to phone around the folks who I knew might be trying to get in touch and dish out my mobile number.

The internet is working fine.

One of my cousins, (a lovely lady), managed to get hold of the ISP on my behalf and find a live person, in India, who initially thought they might manage an earlier appointment, but eventually couldn't.  But another reminder that 'blood is thicker than water'.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 17, 2017, 09:30:49 PM
FF, you don't have your Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi thing going on either.

No I haven't added that yet mate.

Gyp, I don't understand why they don't run these cables through some sort of weather proof casing, its a bloody global problem
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mr. Barry on December 17, 2017, 10:13:25 PM
This place is nice, but it needs something.   

I know!   A FICUS!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 17, 2017, 10:21:19 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Get Shopping Then Man
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 17, 2017, 10:22:13 PM
Gyp, I don't understand why they don't run these cables through some sort of weather proof casing, its a bloody global problem

They were all neatly bundled in a thick green plastic tube, with a smaller tube leading off to the houses, but there were lots of breaks in it when the gas crew had finished digging the trenches.  I rather doubt if they patched them up.  Probably a case of 'Not my circus, not my monkey'.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 17, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
Seems to be a lot of that going around mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 17, 2017, 11:10:19 PM
Too bloody much.

One of the gas blokes knocked on my door.

"Have you got gas here?"

"Yes."

"Could you turn on your cooker to see if it's working."

"My cooker's electric."

"What have you got gas for then?"

"Just for the heating."

"Could you see if the boiler's running then?"

So I turned it on.

"Yes, it's working."

"Thanks, Mate."  He turned to his mates stood around the hole in the pavement, giving a triumphant double thumbs up.  They gave a ragged cheer and then one of them said, "Well, at least we got this one right first time."

Makes me wonder how many people lost their connection.

They used one of those water jet things to cut the holes, and a big slurpy thing like a drain cleaner to suck the runny soil out and squirt it into a container on the back of the lorry.  The holes were neat but the road is still muddy as hell.  Fascinating bit of kit, but I'm sure Dad and his gang were just as fast with pick and shovel, and tidier too.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 03:45:07 AM
Yes, technology is not always better mate that's for sure
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 11:01:18 AM
OK guys, get your heads together and bounce a few ideas on what sort of boards you would like on the new forum.

Karl is very open to ideas to make this place suit the needs of as many writers as possible.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 18, 2017, 11:13:52 AM
Since we are a writing forum, we probably need a place to put up writing for critique. Poetry and prose are two different animals and while I can give some advice on prose, no one in their right minds would want me giving advice on poetry, so those two things should be separate.

I love the games. Most of them anyway - you know I'm not big on the Limerick thing (see the poetry above).

Helping each other with writing problems or publishing issues has been useful, too.

Sharing our triumphs and some writing just for fun is, well, just fun.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Yes it does need to be laid out in sections, just makes sense doesn't it.

Any board names if you have some up your sleeve, just to be a bit snazzier then other forums?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 18, 2017, 11:29:50 AM
Considering I'm in close to mid summer, could someone turn the fire down? Just a tad?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 18, 2017, 11:39:19 AM
I would suggest that the layout of the old forum was basically sound.  But once we start attracting new people we need to make sure they aren't afraid to make suggestions.  With a new venture like this there is always a danger that we 'old hands' will discourage new members.  Not deliberately but some of the more timid souls will probably see us a bit of a clique.  I've seen it happen in the past.

The poets on MWC are a fairly small group, but they're persistent blighters, so it would be a good idea to try and bring them with us.  There's about a couple of dozen of them, of which half are regularly active.  One or two of the newer ones seem to have staying power.  They seem to appreciate having the two boards, one private and one public, to get around the fact that some publishers are still narrow minded/old-fashioned enough to see a post on a forum as publication.   Likewise with the prose boards.  Which is what publishers always ask for too.

A joke thread is essential, but let it deal with good and bad jokes.

We will always need a gallery for those pieces people just want to share without worrying about copyright etc.

We'll need an online/self publishing board because there's more and more of it happening.  Maybe one or more of the members who specialise in this could be kind enough to write a basic primer for newcomers, which could then be stickied.

If we get this right it could be 'the same but better'.  Which is what publishers want, even though they pretend they're looking for something totally different.

Gyppo

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 18, 2017, 11:43:28 AM
Considering I'm in close to mid summer, could someone turn the fire down? Just a tad?

Damn, it's supposed to be self adjusting so it reacts to the perceptions of the individual.  I'll have to get in behind and tweak it a bit.  Or give it a good kicking if polite words don't work.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 18, 2017, 11:45:41 AM
I think we should be wary of tossing out the baby.

There is much on MWC that works, and that, arguably should be retained. Maybe we should change the names of people and places, to protect the innocent...

Sorry about the digression.

I'm back.

We don't want to start with potential copyright infringements, so although our new forum may feel the same, perhaps the board threads should be renamed?

Are we allowed to copy the guidelines for each board, or do we have to think all those up again...

We should start with the restrictions that have been built up over time so we don't need to learn all those lessons again, for example, can't edit before 50 posts, etc.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 18, 2017, 11:46:41 AM
Or give it a good kicking if polite words don't work.
Appreciate the engineering approach.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 18, 2017, 11:48:08 AM
How do we report anomalies?

I clicked Quote on Gyppo's fire note, and I received the whole entire paper trail - I don't think we need that?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 18, 2017, 11:51:32 AM
How do we report anomalies?

I clicked Quote on Gyppo's fire note, and I received the whole entire paper trail - I don't think we need that?

You definitely don't.  As far as I know I've done nothing different at this end.  We need tech Support.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 11:59:00 AM
Yes agree with all said including board name changes.

Karl will be all over any little bumps in the road. I don't think he expected so many to jump on board before he had walled things up but he also would appreciate the input.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 12:00:39 PM
How do we report anomalies?

I clicked Quote on Gyppo's fire note, and I received the whole entire paper trail - I don't think we need that?

Wouldn't you just hit report to moderator like the old place mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 18, 2017, 12:18:57 PM
How do we report anomalies?

I clicked Quote on Gyppo's fire note, and I received the whole entire paper trail - I don't think we need that?

Wouldn't you just hit report to moderator like the old place mate?
And then to whom and how does the moderator pass the problem on?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 18, 2017, 12:22:25 PM
I don't know what happened above, but when I hit quote, I only got the one post quoted, not the whole page.

I don't know how much better than Welcome Board we can get, but I suppose Greetings would work.

Writing help
Chat about writing
Questions for writers

Publishing help
Self-publishing issues
Writing for hire
Resources for all writers and publishers

Instead of Workshop, Prose
Light critique
Heavy duty critique
Script critique
Word fun

Poets Corner to Poetry (to match the Prose above)
Light critique
Heavy duty critique (making this one private)

A Way Station for Weary Writers
The Station Stop
Bookshop
Display case



Suggestions about organization of boards and sub boards
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Sunny on December 18, 2017, 01:01:34 PM
All I want to input right now is my request for coffee!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 18, 2017, 01:07:03 PM
Spell's doing the coffee, Sunny.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 18, 2017, 04:46:57 PM
Nothing like consistency.

Coffees all around.

(http://www.lynnegolodner.com/wp-content/uploads/steaming-coffee-cup1.jpg)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 09:02:55 PM
Thanks Patti, they sound good, I'll pass them on but Karl will probably see them here anyway
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Wen on December 18, 2017, 10:55:36 PM
Light critique
Heavy duty critique
You read my mind.

Yes, a thousand times to this, Firefly (or Karl if you’re strolling through  :) ). Even to an infrequent visitor, discussions/arguments over how heavy or light of a hand to use seemed to be a regular point of contention. Perhaps these options will keep some off that hamster wheel and foster more of a community feel.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 18, 2017, 11:33:09 PM
I do like the idea of separating the critiques by level. And I agree about keeping the basic template, with tweaks and name changes for the new digs.

Now, what happened to that Fred guy you hired? I have it on good authority that Bones is tunneling his way over as we speak, but that could take ages and I'm thirsty.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 18, 2017, 11:33:39 PM
Oh, and here's another post since I intend to keep up with FF this time. She got a head start before.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 18, 2017, 11:48:33 PM
Well I can type in my sleep so be prepared for that, a few all nighters boost me heaps  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 18, 2017, 11:52:42 PM
So, you sleep with one eye open and fingers at the keyboard?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 12:00:32 AM
Never watch the keys Cat, throws out the rhythm  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 12:02:12 AM
Oh and see ^^^ I made junior member  :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 12:03:22 AM
Never watch the keys Cat, throws out the rhythm  :P

Explains a lot.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 12:03:36 AM
Oh and see ^^^ I made junior member  :o

Congratulations.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 12:03:51 AM
Oh and see ^^^ I made junior member  :o

So happy for you.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 12:04:08 AM
How about a drink to celebrate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 12:04:26 AM
Spell is buying since she opened the bar and that's the rule.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 12:54:17 AM
Between her and ST, we are set mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 01:08:40 AM
Finally!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 02:13:29 AM
Geeze I hope Andrews turns up, he has that magic gold card and all
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 03:02:34 AM
Uh. You did teach him the secret handshake?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 03:26:10 AM
He taught me >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 19, 2017, 09:07:49 AM
Spell is buying since she opened the bar and that's the rule.

Did someone say free drinks? ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 09:15:27 AM
Ha ha always works
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 19, 2017, 11:13:45 AM
Talking of free drinks...  Back in the days before pagers etc, there is a legend that the SAS once used the telephone code phrase Free Beer to summon men who were otherwise on leave or 'stood down' back to the barracks in an emergency.

This was removed from the rotating list of options when several girlfriends, wives, and mothers didn't pass on the message.  The cars which scurried around picking up stragglers found otherwise keen troopers sat in front of the TV, feet up, totally oblivious.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 19, 2017, 11:23:07 AM
Can one of you mods move this to the appropriate place and set the bar up in the Bar?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 19, 2017, 11:23:36 AM
WAGS can be such a bore that way  ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 19, 2017, 11:27:08 AM
Can one of you mods move this to the appropriate place and set the bar up in the Bar?
This is the current temporary bar.

There is only this board at the moment - while we think up what tortures to implement in the dungeon.

This is also the thread on the board to use in order to moot your ideas for the new forum - what do you want to see here, how would you like to see it working, who gets paid how much, etc, etc.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 19, 2017, 11:39:35 AM
My computer is showing a whole array of boards and an entire set up of the site. But you apparently saw that, too.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
Can one of you mods move this to the appropriate place and set the bar up in the Bar?

Done mate  8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 19, 2017, 11:40:38 AM
Yay, we're on the move.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 19, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
Isn't it a total surprise that the bar is already the longest thread on here ;-)  The leopards may have moved to a different zoo, but they haven't changed their spots.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
Whew I thought they might get all posh  :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 19, 2017, 11:44:11 AM
Not if I'm around. Of all the things I am, posh is not on the list.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 19, 2017, 11:44:49 AM
Whew I thought they might get all posh  :o

You get some scary thoughts, woman.  Are you horror-tripping on some strange Aussie mushroom?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
It was them there grubs gov
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 19, 2017, 11:50:58 AM
Y'all talk funny
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 12:05:09 PM
Pot.. kettle
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 19, 2017, 12:17:37 PM
I think black is black all over
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 19, 2017, 12:24:24 PM
But some black is blacker.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 19, 2017, 02:05:54 PM
As some blue is purpler.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 19, 2017, 02:13:10 PM
I had an upgrade.

On that note, I'm off.

Be good. Or try. Or something.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 19, 2017, 04:25:41 PM
But newspapers are white and black and red all over ... at least they used to be.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 19, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
Fred, here's a card I found on the floor. I have no idea who it belongs to. It might have Andrew written on it, but the typeface is blurred. Luckily, there are no Andrews here at the moment so this card should work for quite some time. Drinks and food are it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 19, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
He's probably still on a world cruise or something like that.

Did anyone invite him?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 19, 2017, 09:22:02 PM
Sure did mate and he is added on the FB one too

Morning bar flies, nothing changes  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 19, 2017, 11:25:32 PM
I see you've been chattering on, FF. 105 posts.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Michael Marnier on December 20, 2017, 12:13:52 AM
I see you've been chattering on, FF. 105 posts.

Yeah, and she is a FULL member, too. Full of what?  ???
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 20, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
I see you've been chattering on, FF. 105 posts.

Yeah, and she is a FULL member, too. Full of what?  ???

I'm not touching that one with a ten foot Aussie snake.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Michael Marnier on December 20, 2017, 12:32:48 AM
And you just possted number 50. Congrats shedding Newbie status.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 12:44:50 AM
Maaate I'm a lot of things, silent isn't one of them  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 20, 2017, 01:02:14 AM
And I'm just back from the gym. First did CrossFit and then did yoga. Now I have a few hours before I'm back to the box to CrossFit again.

Three more CrossFit things and then I'm done and off to a new and different gym where they workout like CrossFit but don't pay for the brand name. Should be interesting if nothing else. And they have heat and air conditioning there which will be a huge bonus.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 01:09:31 AM
My old Gym wasn't airconditioned either mate, that is a pain, especially here in summer
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 20, 2017, 01:57:14 AM
Maaate I'm a lot of things, silent isn't one of them  :P

Maaate, we know.  ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 03:07:03 AM
 >:( >:( >:(

Silence from the cat would be appreciated  :-X :-X :-X

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Michael Marnier on December 20, 2017, 03:11:20 AM
The bat is asleep. Shhhhh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 03:37:02 AM
Hey Arty, whats going down mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Michael Marnier on December 20, 2017, 03:44:09 AM
Mostly wine. An Argentinean Malbec. Delish. Hic!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 03:46:52 AM
Almost wine o'clock here too. Gotta do some miles before that though and its too hot
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Michael Marnier on December 20, 2017, 03:52:54 AM
I should be writing Deep Strait yet here I am, drinking at the BWF bar with you, Fly. What'll ya have, sweetheart?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 20, 2017, 06:25:11 AM
Maaate I'm a lot of things, silent isn't one of them  :P

Understatement of the century. :P

Has Bones made his way over here yet, or are we still helping ourselves?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 20, 2017, 08:24:11 AM
It's my breakfast time so I'll have to make do with coffee.

Quite happy to help myself until the bar is organised.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 09:20:31 AM
I should be writing Deep Strait yet here I am, drinking at the BWF bar with you, Fly. What'll ya have, sweetheart?

Irish coffee and heavy on the Irish maaaaate tar  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 20, 2017, 11:26:38 AM
Doesn't really matter what time it is, I always have coffee.

After all the gym crap, I had my last cup of coffee at 7.45 PM. I took my shower (finally) at 9.45 and was in bed by 10.01 and asleep by 10.02. But I was awake again at midnight cuz the coffee wanted to leave the building.

But I will take another coffee now. Whenever the now is.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 12:14:42 PM
I might slide into my soft bed
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 20, 2017, 02:54:05 PM
I did the things today. I didn't think I could do the things, but I did. I even added weight for the last series and managed, although I know I couldn't have managed that weight for the entire time, but ...

And then I got bacon.

I know I'm not a dog and shouldn't reward myself with food. But my reward for working out is bacon. So there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 20, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
Seems a perfectly sound rewards system to me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: 510bhan on December 20, 2017, 06:27:28 PM
Bacon...a winner every time. Just a flying visit, gotta dash. See you again in a while. Love y'all }:D.  x
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 20, 2017, 09:22:17 PM
 ;D ;D

510, woo hoo, you are looking smashing young lady, nice to see your smile  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 20, 2017, 11:16:57 PM
****I have more posts than 510****

Well, for now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Wen on December 20, 2017, 11:49:55 PM
True, but you have your work cutout for you to catch up with Firefly. Switching from coffee to espresso might help in that department.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 21, 2017, 12:00:24 AM
She's gotta be cheating somehow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 21, 2017, 12:16:48 AM
I am now a full member. It doesn't say what I'm full of.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 21, 2017, 03:01:37 AM
Do you need me to tell you Spell? >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Wen on December 21, 2017, 03:28:45 AM
With the bar and grill in place, have you noticed how bottom heavy we’re getting? It’s like looking in a mirror after the holidays. :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 21, 2017, 05:04:24 AM
I'm filling up.

No saying with what  :P

Morning folks. 2 days work left for me then 2 weeks off.

I'll start the day with coffee. Me 'n' Spell, that's our table over there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 21, 2017, 05:12:02 AM
Two weeks Jewels, that's gold mate.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 21, 2017, 08:04:35 AM
Morning all. I'll have a coffee this morning - the stronger the better. I have a feeling I'm gonna need it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 21, 2017, 11:26:17 AM
The problems with being retired is that all your days are off.

I'm not precisely sure what that means.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 21, 2017, 11:28:42 AM
Morning all. I'll have a coffee this morning - the stronger the better. I have a feeling I'm gonna need it.

What do you have on mate, shoveling the snow?  :P

I am enjoying not working for now but I will have to do something once my arm is done
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 21, 2017, 11:32:24 AM
Two weeks Jewels, that's gold mate.
:D
I'm angling for a third week - That would be platinum, then?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 21, 2017, 11:39:44 AM
I have a hot steaming cup of coffee so perhaps a bear's claw would go with that. A calorie free one, if you have it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 21, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Marking time, waiting for my ride to turn up.  I have mentioned that this is one time being 'fashionably late' isn't really acceptable ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 21, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
Over at the Games section there is a small list of games available. They were all started by me. Surely y'all have some games you want to play, too.

if this is the answer
unlikely
define the llama
other single word progressions
conjoined words

at one point there were games about show and tell and things that took longer than one word to answer
many of those answers were brilliant and fun to see how clever our compatriots are with their words

I could start all of them, but it looks sorta like I'm stalking the board or something.

Feel free to jump in any time over there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on December 21, 2017, 12:48:16 PM
Good... um, what time is it?

Whatever time it is, good that.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 22, 2017, 08:34:29 AM
Good grief, RL took over right from the start today.

Need another shot of coffee. Quick. Intravenous would be nice.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 22, 2017, 11:57:15 AM
Today is my penultimate workout as a CrossFitter. Then it's over.

They did find a buyer for the gym, but only after I signed on somewhere else. So I will simply be a gym rat who might occasionally traipse over to CrossFit to do a group WOD with them.

I'm a bit sad, but I'm also going to spend only half the money at my new place, so it's okay. And it is cross training that doesn't give Greg Glassman thousands of dollars a year for the name. I hope this all works out. I have spent lots of sweat and tears getting these tiny muscles. I would hate to lose them.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 22, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
The beauty of moving south was leaving the shovels behind. It has snowed a couple times since we've been here, but it melts by noon.

I'm experimenting with Instagram. I don't really know if this will work.
https://instagram.com/p/BdAk7jFAsea/


apparently only as a link and won't let me put in the picture itself.

I make shirts. This is the one I made today. I don't actually make the shirt, I plop the design on it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 22, 2017, 07:26:50 PM
I can see the picture.  Rather elegant.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 22, 2017, 09:16:46 PM
It looks better in real life. The shirt is mossy green. And it very soft and comfortable besides being inexpensive. And I got to use up some vinyl scraps.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 23, 2017, 12:01:57 PM
Hey barflies, nearly Christmas eve
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 23, 2017, 02:29:37 PM
We will soon be on our way to have our Christmas with the fire family since he's working tomorrow and they Christmas with the in laws on the day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 23, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
Greetings All,

Bones you here yet? Fred? Somebody get me a cold drink. I heard Andrew's paying. Free Drinks for Everyone   >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 23, 2017, 04:00:20 PM
Bones is out in the yard, stacking crates ready for what he hopes will be a Christmas onslaught.  He's set up Carrie's personal brandy barrel in case she drops in.

From somewhere he's found a supply of White Label non-alcoholic bitter for me, plus the usual Cobra Zero.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 23, 2017, 07:02:15 PM
Hiya, Writers. I brought Brownie Cupcakes. Something about Christmas weekend puts me in the mood to bake.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 23, 2017, 08:17:48 PM
Brownie cupcakes? Yum. Thanks, Laura.

I'm experimenting with Instagram. I don't really know if this will work.
https://instagram.com/p/BdAk7jFAsea/


apparently only as a link and won't let me put in the picture itself.

I make shirts. This is the one I made today. I don't actually make the shirt, I plop the design on it.

Love the T-shirt design. (I've also followed you. ;D)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 23, 2017, 08:33:17 PM
That is lovely Chick, I missed it yesterday when I parked my broom

Big breakfast thanks Bones, I have to fuel up for my cooking fest today

Thanks Andrews

I'll leave a batch of rocky road on the end of the bar for anyone wishing to nibble
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 24, 2017, 12:39:31 AM
I made eight shirts and five pants for Frankie (many with her designs on them)

I made five shirts for Dayna
    one that Frankie designed herself
    three with designs used on Frankie's things (but not any unicorns for the mother)
    one exact match to a Frankie shirt

I made one shirt for Craig
     that Frankie designed herself

I also made personalized mugs and had a big container of hot chocolate mix

And a fancy plate for Frankie to store her hair toys or jewelry on

And one cookie plate with some design

I guess I went Cricut Crazy

Frankie liked everything and was happy that she and her mom could wear similar items. She was thrilled with seeing her own designs made into shirts. But she squealed with delight when she saw they had matching shirts each saying

FRANCESCA
written fancy in a curved arc and a rose centered underneath. She is Francesca Rose.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 24, 2017, 12:51:07 AM
Sounds beautiful mate and I love her name  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 24, 2017, 09:58:50 AM
'Has Bones arrived yet, or are we still serving ourselves?' she asked hopefully. ;D

I need something strong before I start cooking. Maybe a Cointreau coffee - lots of cream, please. ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 24, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
I made a cointreau mousse cake for Christmas lunch, want some?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 24, 2017, 11:41:52 AM
Frankie left the Montessori school she had been attending since she was 3 or 4.

She is now in a regular public school and they have a lot more students and so a lot more possibilities. I think there are more third graders in this school than there were students in the entire other school. So, things are different and it was scary and all that stuff.

Their art teacher(s) use something called Artsonia. She/they uploads some of the kid's art work and it can be turned into things. All that was up there for ME to pick from was a Solar System thing Frankie did early in the year. But she also did an acrylic painting of a snowman. I am now the proud owner of a Frankie cup with the snowman on one side and

BEST
nana
EVER

LOVE, THE BEST
GRANDDAUGHTER EVER

This is how we know she is a bit smarter than the norm. We were talking about the difficulty of painting with the acrylics and how other kids had mistakes in their art. She pipes up, "Any time I had a mistake, I just painted over it and made another cloud." 

She makes me proud.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 24, 2017, 11:43:25 AM
OMG

Look who's here

(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/45701888/images/1456688120733.jpg)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 24, 2017, 12:36:15 PM
OMG

Look who's here

(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/45701888/images/1456688120733.jpg)

My long lost favorite bartender!  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 24, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
Never seen the bow tie before.  Must be honour of the new place.

"Welcome back Old Buddy."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 24, 2017, 05:46:44 PM
I think the collar and cuffs are a nice a touch.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on December 24, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Never seen the bow tie before.  Must be honour of the new place.

"Welcome back Old Buddy."

I think he's excited by the new surroundings. Don't worry, the same old sods will grind that enthusiasm out of him. ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 25, 2017, 12:26:23 AM
Never seen the bow tie before.  Must be honour of the new place.

You didn't hear about the dress code at BWF?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 25, 2017, 05:16:25 AM
Obviously not, Bones twigged, he always was a tad dapper though
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 25, 2017, 10:14:06 AM
I made a cointreau mousse cake for Christmas lunch, want some?

You need to ask?

Bones is back!! Yay! And looking so dapper, too.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 25, 2017, 11:49:42 AM
You didn't hear about the dress code at BWF?

Dress code?

But I don't want to wear a dress.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 25, 2017, 12:12:10 PM
But you look so good in that sparkly red one.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 25, 2017, 01:16:11 PM
But you look so good in that sparkly red one.

That's a myth started by Tim, speaking of whom...  "A toast to absent friends."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 25, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
To absent friends... :-* :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 25, 2017, 05:52:50 PM
I hope they have have their own bar up in heaven and have been having a great time watching us. If we RAISE out glasses, in heaven, do they lower them?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 25, 2017, 07:48:49 PM
If it's who I'm thinking of, they probably grab the glass right out of your hand.  ;)

Cheers, writers.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 25, 2017, 08:49:04 PM
Probably
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 26, 2017, 01:36:17 AM
Might all be why Bones has been so slack. He is in demand in way too many places
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 26, 2017, 09:42:59 AM
But you look so good in that sparkly red one.

That's a myth started by Tim, speaking of whom...  "A toast to absent friends."

To absent friends.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 26, 2017, 03:03:46 PM
I went to my new gym today because my old gym doesn't have a workout at the time I wanted. I didn't embarrass myself too much. I scaled it like I needed and stuck to my rep scheme throughout a 21 minute thing. Tomorrow I do my last workout at my old gym, my home, my security blanket.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: MiggsEye on December 28, 2017, 02:42:13 AM
I need to start exercising.

I lost 25 lbs with diet alone up until Thanksgiving. Then ate normal and did nothing since then. I think I've gained some back which is not worrisome. I'll just start keto and intermittent fasting again after Jan 1.

I'm ready to jump on some exercise bandwagon too. Is there a BWF Health Club yet? Maybe we should start one? Healthy writers are a good thing. I believe Joanna Penn did a podcast this week on just that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on December 28, 2017, 04:18:53 AM
I'd like to lose some weight. Though I'd be happy to just transfer it from my tummy and waist to my boobs :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 28, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
I'll worry about the weight in the New Year. For now... 'Coffee, please, Bones, and throw in some fresh cream.'
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 28, 2017, 12:08:25 PM
I weigh the same as I did when I started CrossFit five plus years ago. However, I'm two pants sizes smaller (or dress sizes if that works better). I have trouble buying long sleeve shirts because I have biceps and the arms are tight. I have muscles where I used to have blubber. I can lift heavy things even outside the gym. I can open my own jars. I will not lose all that I have worked for.

And, I know I'm not a dog and should not reward myself with food, but I get bacon every time I work out. I love bacon. I will lift for bacon. I even made a shirt that says that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 28, 2017, 08:22:28 PM
Morning Barflies, must be Patti's shout.

Latte with honey thanks Bones, I shall have breaky around 10am, that seems to suit my digestion way better
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 29, 2017, 03:31:33 AM
Why my shout? Did you think I wasn't watching?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 29, 2017, 04:06:23 AM
Dang!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 29, 2017, 10:29:19 AM
Morning Barflies, must be Patti's shout.

I'll second that.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 29, 2017, 12:16:17 PM
"Bones!  I'll have a heart-attack-on-a-plate and a white china pint mug of lemon tea, please."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on December 29, 2017, 01:01:05 PM
Coffee for me, Bones. Breakfast later if you've heated the skillet.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 29, 2017, 01:26:33 PM
"Bones,  here's a modest wad of notes.  Free breakfast or morning drink to the mods for the next week or so.  They're working their butts off over at the other place and getting nowhere fast.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on December 29, 2017, 02:49:56 PM
Thanks, Gyppo.

It's morning somewhere in the world; I'll have coffee, hot to the bottom of the cup.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 29, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
A Bar and Grill with a good fire going and Fred the Head and Bones as bartenders? Sounds good to me.

I'm in need of a hot drink, mulled wine perhaps, and a bit to eat. How about erm... chicken wings?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 29, 2017, 03:34:25 PM
How about erm... chicken wings?

Sounds a damn sight more plausible than the so-called buffalo wings I've seen advertised.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 29, 2017, 04:53:16 PM
Sounds a damn sight more plausible than the so-called buffalo wings I've seen advertised.

Or chicken balls.  :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on December 29, 2017, 08:24:14 PM
Bones, quick! A shot of your strongest before the Missus comes in.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 29, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
You may regret that...  The most lethal drink Bones has is some weird intergalactic concoction with a name which temporarily eludes me.

Bones can provide any food or drink known to man or woman, and probably a few most of us have never heard of.

If you're ever tempted to offer him 'something for yourself' he won't turn it down, but bear in mind he's a skeleton so he tends to leak a bit. He'll always clean up after himself, but if you're too close you could get caught in the fallout.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on December 29, 2017, 08:48:08 PM
I was hoping for something hallucinogenic. Makes life more interesting.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mr. Barry on December 29, 2017, 10:50:01 PM
Cool.  I will have Transparent Pie.   
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 29, 2017, 11:01:25 PM
It's morning in Downtown Oz and I am in the mood for a latte thanks Gyp.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 29, 2017, 11:33:04 PM
[Ambles in and looks at an almost identical jukebox to the one in the old place.  Stuffed with proper vinyl records and that sickening thud as the stylus drops, which bursts into Smoke On The Water to greet him.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwEIt9ez7M

"Oh, just like the lyrics.  We've found a new place to play.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 30, 2017, 12:15:33 AM
I believe the drink is/was a Nebula.

But I will have coffee. Always coffee, unless I have tea. I like tea, too. But mostly coffee. I only drink tea when I've had too much coffee. I may have had more than my usual allotment of coffee while eating out for several meals in a row. Can you tell?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 30, 2017, 02:43:06 AM
Love Deep Purple, now that was music
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 30, 2017, 05:17:03 AM
Bones, I need a Bombay and tonic and wedge of lime.
I heard mosquitoes were spotted in the area recently.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 30, 2017, 05:18:24 AM
 :-* :-* :-*

Well hello to you traveler, and how would you be mate?

Tell us what you have been up to
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 30, 2017, 07:03:44 AM
I'm doin' great, Fly. Good to see you.
The book is done. I pitched it to several agents. My top four asked for full manuscripts. So, now I wait . . . and drink . . . a lot.
Once I get over the shock of all this, I'll start outlining a sequel, in the event anyone sees this as a series.

A round for the house, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 30, 2017, 07:51:14 AM
Go Don!!! That is super cool and I wish you all the luck I can muster mate  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 30, 2017, 09:32:43 AM
Morning guys. I'll have a nice strong cuppa.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 30, 2017, 11:02:50 AM
Don, you still exist on some plane! I haven't seen you in a very long time. Congratulations on the book.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 30, 2017, 11:17:09 AM
The book is done. I pitched it to several agents. My top four asked for full manuscripts.

Excellent news, Don.  Good to see you here in the life raft.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 30, 2017, 12:46:50 PM
Thanks, Gyppo. This is far better than a life raft--more like a cruise ship.
Yes, Chick, I still exist. Thank you for your kind words.
Bones, fire up the caffeine machine. We're in danger of turning to alcohol before breakfast. I'll end up one of my own characters.   :(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 30, 2017, 01:02:17 PM
Good news Don!

Bones, I'm hungry. A falafel pitta would be great.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 30, 2017, 01:13:21 PM
Thanks, Dan.
Bones, can I get a lid for this coffee? I've gotta go find a body. Yes, I lost a body. Don't ask. I'll tell ya when I get back, or maybe I'll just call you for bail. Depends on how it goes down.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 30, 2017, 01:51:02 PM
And look who's become a junior member! A round on me.

Bones, I'll have a hot chocolate with a generous splash of rum. It's cold outside, and since I'm too greedy to turn on the heating, it's cold inside too.

I'll be over there by the fire, trying to get warm.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 30, 2017, 03:08:02 PM
Chuck another log on the fire, Dan.  This place is so newly built we don't yet have to worry about soot catching alight if the flames get a bit too high.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 30, 2017, 04:03:58 PM
Consider it done, Gyp!

Getting cosy in here now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 30, 2017, 04:43:55 PM
Greetings All,

Bones get me something good to drink while I mosey around the boards and see what's going on.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on December 30, 2017, 05:07:09 PM
I'm doin' great, Fly. Good to see you.
The book is done. I pitched it to several agents. My top four asked for full manuscripts. So, now I wait . . . and drink . . . a lot.
Once I get over the shock of all this, I'll start outlining a sequel, in the event anyone sees this as a series.

A round for the house, Bones.

Good show, old sole.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 30, 2017, 05:30:36 PM
Ah, this place is filling up just nicely isn't it.  :-*

Bones, a pre dawn drink for me, not sure if it should be hot or cold, I'll leave it up to you
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 30, 2017, 07:41:29 PM
It's getting there;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 30, 2017, 08:07:04 PM
So what's happening in the Land of Gypness for New Years Eve mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 30, 2017, 08:43:26 PM
Nothing planned yet.  May knock on a door or two.  Will ring around family and friends, and probably find the phone system overloaded and delayed.

Maybe go and blow up the old house seeing as it's still empty ;-)  Just joking, in case those buggers at GCHQ are monitoring for 'trigger' words.  Which they damn well should be.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: carriesheppard on December 30, 2017, 09:39:14 PM
I used to skype an MWC member in the USA and she was adamant that Home Security were listening for key words. 

It can't be easy monitoring the millions of communications transactions that occur every minute of every day.  But interesting to think that even with social sites like Youtube and Facebook they can't get extremist content down very quickly - so how good is the monitoring?

Musing. I think I'm not being productive. I was re-writing my story, but I've run out of puff, now I'm ready for sleep because tomorrow is the last night of this year. 

So goodnight my lovely writing friends (or good morning, according to where you are etc).

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 30, 2017, 09:54:59 PM
Nite, Carrie. Won't be long before I'll be heading off to the Land of Nod too. (Gotta save myself for the big party tomorrow.)

'Bones, I shall have a mug of coffee, and a few of those chocolate biscuits I know you keep behind the bar.'
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 30, 2017, 09:58:46 PM
You mean the skinny bugger's been hoarding choccie biccies?

"Bones, you are not getting off to a good start."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 31, 2017, 01:26:33 AM
I have writing to do and I need caffeine to keep my creative juices company.
Make it so, Bones. Leave the change on the bar for any other creative soul who wanders by needing a little sustenance.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 31, 2017, 02:40:16 AM
Lets pretend I am creative and hit me with a bourb thanks Bones me old mate  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 31, 2017, 08:21:40 AM
Did I hear the magic words choccie biccies?

Bones, gimme some of those, will you. I haven't eaten since I got home late last night, so I'm starving!
Oh, and a nice strong cuppa to wake me up proper.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 31, 2017, 11:01:31 AM
I either need coffee or a nap. Being halfway in between isn't doing anyone any good.
Maybe I should just go back to sleep and dream about coffee. Hmm-m.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 31, 2017, 11:04:15 AM
Hey Don 2 hrs till 2018 here
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on December 31, 2017, 11:33:40 AM
We are having a Non-official parry here tonight. I have no idea what that means, but my Dick didn't want to heave an official party, so we are having an unofficial one. I hope I can stay awake for it. I finally really slept all night long last night, so there is hope.

Coffee is always in order and always my order, Bones. Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 31, 2017, 11:37:24 AM
I forgot you live in the future, Fly. Happy New Year!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on December 31, 2017, 12:04:37 PM
I'm doin' great, Fly. Good to see you.
The book is done. I pitched it to several agents. My top four asked for full manuscripts. So, now I wait . . . and drink . . . a lot.
Once I get over the shock of all this, I'll start outlining a sequel, in the event anyone sees this as a series.

A round for the house, Bones.

Whoo-hoo. Congrats on the requests, Don.

Seeing as you're buying I'll have a glass of champers and ring in the New Year with Aussie. ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 31, 2017, 12:35:19 PM
Thank you, Cathy.
I'm told you got your book published. Congrats on that.  I'll have to write you a Goodreads review.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 31, 2017, 02:06:21 PM
Hey Don 2 hrs till 2018 here

I was just telling some people at work about you FF. We were talking about the New Year, and I said Fly always posts a Happy New Year message long before it is New Years here.   Please do post one again this year.  I get excited when I see it.  Not sure why, but it is almost like an affirmation that it really is on the way.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 31, 2017, 03:46:55 PM
That's because Firefly lives in the future.

I've been trying for years to get her to give me stock market closing prices in the morning so that I can make an illicit fortune, but she's too damn honest. I need to surround myself with more unscrupulousness.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 31, 2017, 04:05:42 PM
Agreed. And when you find those who are willing to pass along winning lotto numbers, be sure to let me know. I'll buy the ticket and share it with you.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on December 31, 2017, 04:55:58 PM
There was a story about this years ago, no idea who wrote it, when I was a kid.  Written in the first person.  The main person buys a paper from a street vendor and finds it has tomorrows date on it.  The next day it happens again.  The mysterious vendor isn't his usual man, but that doesn't bother him.

During the next week or so he picks up tomorrow's news, starts betting on the winning horses, and is making a fortune.

Then he picks up his paper from the mysterious vendor and finds his funeral plastered all over the front page.  'Lucky gambler dies suddenly.'

I believe this is where I got my taste for tales with a twist.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on December 31, 2017, 05:10:08 PM
I like that! Very Twilight Zone-ish.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 31, 2017, 05:12:20 PM
Haha! That's a right funny story Gyppo.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on December 31, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
Just enjoyed a nice supper of kale, mashed potatoes and a sausage.

Bones, I'll have a mulled wine on the go. Off to watch another episode (or two) of Designated Survivor on Netflix.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on December 31, 2017, 11:37:35 PM
Sorry there was no early message this year guys. The fireworks started around 8.30pm and my dogs did not approve

We were all fast asleep in the lounge room long before the ball dropped  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on December 31, 2017, 11:43:20 PM
Happy New Year FF!  It is only 6:42pm here.  We have a long way to go. I'm sure I'll be asleep long before the big bash.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 01, 2018, 12:51:22 AM
We are having guests, but they are all old farts so maybe we will all be asleep before it's next year.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 01, 2018, 12:57:17 AM
I have drunk my remaining bottle of Cobra Zero in solitary splendour and will now trot off to bed with my Kindle.  In the morning it will be a new day, well, a later part of today.

Goodnight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on January 01, 2018, 04:18:49 AM
Pleasant dreams, Gyppo.
Bones, we need coffee here. Gonna be at it for a while. Want to start 2018 properly.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 05:27:18 AM
So no big party plans for New Year Don?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 01, 2018, 06:03:06 AM
Our unofficial party turned out really nice.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 06:43:46 AM
Excellent mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 01, 2018, 11:31:57 AM
Sometimes the unplanned, or at least casual, gatherings turn out to be the best.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 01, 2018, 11:52:25 AM
Happy new year! It's past noon already and I got a lot done already. Housework, that is. No writing.

This was my first New Year's Eve alone (with  my cats) and it was quite good. Fourth storey living means I got to see the fireworks from miles around. My two kittens seemed fascinated for a while and sat in the windowsill watching until they got bored and decided to go sleep. My older cat wasn't too bothered either. She slept on the couch and only kept a watchful eye open during the first half hour of the new year when most of the fireworks went off.

I was in bed by one, which is not much later than my usual time.

Gotta go see my ex and son later today. Son still needs help with his dressings and the ex freaks out over even the most minor injuries.

But lunch first. I'm starving.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on January 01, 2018, 12:09:41 PM
We need caffeine . . . and a show of hands from the survivors.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
Good Morning All,

Bones, you look fairly decent this morning. All the rowdies must have partied at Shaky's bar last night. I need a big mug of coffee with French Vanilla creamer......and none of that fat free crap either.....I'm going to wander the boards and put up a challenge thread. I'll bring the mug back when I back around this way. I promise.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 12:10:36 PM
Morning Don,

You're up bright and early this morning. You must've been good last night.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on January 01, 2018, 12:36:06 PM
"Good" is relative, Word. I spend the night editing.
I have no intention of leaving the house with the temperature on the south side of zero.
This is like waking up to find yourself smack in the middle of a Jack London novel.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 01, 2018, 12:40:31 PM
This is like waking up to find yourself smack in the middle of a Jack London novel.

You mean that the cold is actively stalking you, rather than just being background ;-)

Fascinates me how he could do that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 12:41:20 PM
Well at least you stayed productive. It is bitter cold here also. I think he said we have actually hit -1, but even if I got that wrong, it isn't much warmer than that.

Oh, I just realized I need to change out my Avy. Christmas Piggy has to go fatten up for next November.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 12:42:11 PM
Oh and Bones, be sure to tell everyone that the 30-Day Challenge is posted.  I have never done one of those before, so suggestions are always welcome.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on January 01, 2018, 12:51:22 PM
Quote
You mean that the cold is actively stalking you . . .

That's exactly what I mean. The kitchen was unusually cold when I came down this morning, with a steady draft around the door. I found a piece of weather stripping had come away from the frame and was lying on the back porch. Patched for the moment, but I blame evil weather demons.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 01, 2018, 01:02:42 PM
This delicate Southern Flower (Stinkweed, according to my Dick) could use some warming up as well. Coffee please. I know. That's a shocker.

My granddaughter is quite pleased with the winter storm names. Especially that Frankie is wreaking havoc. They even spelled it correctly for her.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 01, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Thank you, Cathy.
I'm told you got your book published. Congrats on that.  I'll have to write you a Goodreads review.  :)

Thanks, Don. Reviews are always gratefully received.  ;D

I've had my fill of parties. Late one last night, and a 21st today for youngest son. I'm ready for my PJ's and a strong cup of coffee.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: AndrewF on January 01, 2018, 06:03:09 PM
Happy New Year Everyone!   ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 01, 2018, 06:11:53 PM
Oh, you've found us then.  Thought you'd turn up fairly soon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 07:49:53 PM
 ;D

Andrews!! Happy New Year mate, lovely to see you here.

How was your Christmas/New Year?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 08:08:32 PM
Hi Andrew! Great to see you!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 08:13:14 PM
Bird, you have changed, I best get moving and do mine too
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 08:30:46 PM
Yeppers, it was time for the Christmas Piggy to go. Birdy is back for 2018.  :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 08:33:33 PM
Since Christmas took its toll, I am in workout mode. Well at least in the avatar, I should get back into shape thinking about it shouldn't I?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 01, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
Gadzooks, I just saw on the Dr. Oz show (a real show here in the US) that if your waist x 2 is a higher number than your height in inches, you're too fat. Uh.....we're not even going to discuss the numbers, but let's just say that if instead of snow angels, I could make some snow barrells. HAHAHA   ;D ;D

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 08:42:28 PM
We better not snow angel together then Bird >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 01, 2018, 09:56:08 PM
Gadzooks, I just saw on the Dr. Oz show (a real show here in the US) that if your waist x 2 is a higher number than your height in inches, you're too fat. Uh.....we're not even going to discuss the numbers, but let's just say that if instead of snow angels, I could make some snow barrells. HAHAHA   ;D ;D

In that case I'm not fat, just under-tall.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 01, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
Bones. Be a dear and hide Andrew's card. We've been using it for a while now and he might catch on.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
I'm sure his card is invisible but only to him  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 01, 2018, 11:04:12 PM
Gadzooks, I just saw on the Dr. Oz show (a real show here in the US) that if your waist x 2 is a higher number than your height in inches, you're too fat. Uh.....we're not even going to discuss the numbers, but let's just say that if instead of snow angels, I could make some snow barrells. HAHAHA   ;D ;D

In that case I'm not fat, just under-tall.

LOL! I might just be too tall, although I find that highly unlikely, seeing that I'm only 1.70 m.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 11:05:57 PM
Well that isn't on the short side mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 01, 2018, 11:07:53 PM
Well that isn't on the short side mate

It is where I live. Most males in my country are at least 1.80 m. Heck, there's even lots of women around here that are taller than me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 01, 2018, 11:27:08 PM
Which country are you from Dan?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 01, 2018, 11:47:25 PM
I am in serious danger of being in bed by midnight.

Ah well, it happens to even the best of us from time to time.

Goodnight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 02, 2018, 12:01:34 AM
Night Gyp, see if you beat the squirrels up in the morning mate.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 09:18:20 AM
Which country are you from Dan?

The Netherlands, aka the Land of Giants. ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 02, 2018, 09:24:10 AM
Ah nice mate. Never been far from Oz I'm afraid
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 09:26:31 AM
I've never been that far. Just The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, France and the UK. I hear Oz is a bit bigger than those six combined.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 02, 2018, 11:59:34 AM
Gran always claimed there was a bit of Dutch blood in her part of the family tree.  A family of bulb growers/pickers who came over to work and stayed on.  Some of them became jewellers.  She claimed that the Dutch often have a longer than average back but short legs in comparison.  So any long-legged Dutchman will appear excessively tall.

Gran definitely had a long back.  Often when she sat down alongside people who were taller than her she would be a head taller in the seated position.   This was brought to my attention when I was kid, when I asked if she was sat on an extra cushion or something.

It became something of a family game for a while, to measure oneself alongside gran standing up, and then sit alongside her on a bench and see the difference.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
I'm a mix of heaven-knows-what. Dutch, Jewish and French that I know of, but quite probably a lot more than just that. I happen to have extraordinary long limbs - courtesy of a genetic disorder. I'm still short - for a Dutch guy. But I'm just as tall as my father, and even 1 cm taller than my son. The lad is 19, so theoretically he might still gain a cm or two, but I very much doubt that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mr. Barry on January 02, 2018, 01:08:18 PM
Despite family lore, my DNA has shown me to be 100% European.  England, Ireland, Scotland, and France are primary, but Western Europe is secondary.   

I am, however, a distant relative of the Queen.  (Really distant) 

One of my branches is traced back to the year 990, though.   
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 02, 2018, 02:35:46 PM
He is rather sneaky about protecting that thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 03:30:19 PM
My family trees only go back a couple hundred years, both on Mum's and on Dad's side. Mum's family tree has a few exotic branches, whereas Dad's tree is all Dutch as far as I can make out. But I've got family on Dad's side living all over the world. UK, US, even down-under.

Fun fact, both Mum's and Dad's side of the family sport a rather nice coat of arms.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 02, 2018, 05:25:34 PM
My mother went back several generations and created our family tree. At least on that side of the family. My husband's grandmother was one of ten kids and so there are people all over the damn place who are distantly related to him and by extension our kids and grandkids.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 02, 2018, 06:08:56 PM
My mother did our family tree quite a few years back, but gave up when the computer refused to put my son's name in our family tree. It insisted that it could only go in hubs tree - we're 2nd cousins. ;D

'Bones, I'll have whatever's on tap.'
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 02, 2018, 07:11:47 PM
Morning barflies.

Latte thanks Bones with a squeeze of honey thanks.

Family trees are interesting aren't they. DNA would be more interesting or scary
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 07:14:31 PM
Evening FF.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 02, 2018, 07:59:52 PM
Ah, we are opposites aren't we. 7am here, the day is insisting I move.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
Yes, almost nine PM over here. Still need to get some more writing done before I turn in.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 02, 2018, 09:14:16 PM
So it's still yesterday there, mmmmm  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 02, 2018, 09:36:57 PM
Yep. We're behind, don't you know?  ;)

Got today's writing done. Half ten now. No Netflix tonight, that's for sure. I'll just have one last cuppa, scoop the cat trays and make sure the little blighters have enough water and kibble to get them through the night without yowling at my bedroom door.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 02, 2018, 10:51:08 PM
I've been feeding the shredder today.  It's getting a thorough 'roadtest'.  I have two mail sacks filled with carrier bags which contain 'confidential waste' from before I moved.  Business correspondence, first drafts I no longer wished to keep, bank statement, etc.  Stuff like that.  It moved with me and has been sat in the shed until I had the tools to deal with it.

I used to burn it, but it got ahead of me which is why I have all the carrier bags with the handles knotted, and 'burn bin', written on the side.

Now I wish I'd bagged it up unripped,most of the A4 being quartered at least before I bagged it, so there would be bigger bits to feed into the shredder, but it's vanishing, slowly.

From now on anything I want to shred goes through more or less straight away.  It's just a pity that the fine cross-cut stuff isn't recyclable in our kerbside collection of paper and plastics.   There's probably nearly a hunderedweight of paper in the two sacks.

I still have the little hand-powered shredder which Alma loves to use.  She's very proud of her 'job' as Grandad's Shredder Girl.  I'll make sure there's enough stuff to keep her busy when she's in the right mood.

Gyppo                                       
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 03, 2018, 12:03:27 AM
Gyp some of the local pet shops around here like the shredded paper for inside the cages, that would be worth a try, or the vet etc

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 03, 2018, 12:27:18 AM
I'll check it out.  Some people use the strip cut shreddings, but these are cross-cut and damned fine. 5mm x 18mm

My auntie used to use strip cut shreddings for her guinea pigs, but got scared off when she read that some of the coloured ink used in some magazines made the paper dangerous for the little creatures.  Don't know how true that is.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 03, 2018, 02:56:10 AM
Ah yes, that may make it more difficult, mine is a strip cut
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 03, 2018, 12:24:35 PM
I used to be in charge of the shredding at work. I would wait until I had a stack about four to six inches high and then spend some time communing with the shredder. It was a crosscut one. It would only work for so long before telling me it was too hot and tired to keep working. That's when I would be in need of a fresh cup of coffee, so we got along fine.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 03, 2018, 12:53:34 PM
I love burning the confidential waste, but lately I've been thinking of maybe using it to create something useful. Papier-mâché bowls or something like that perhaps?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 03, 2018, 01:15:53 PM
I was quite surprised to learn, (yes I read the manual), it's supposed to be able to cope with ordinary office staples and paper clips up to one inch long.  Don't think I'll deliberately put it the test.

When I was emptying it the other day I had a serious look at the cutting teeth.  I'm glad it's pretty well finger-proofed barring deliberate stupidity.  My little strip cut shredder looks toothless in comparison.

=====

Dan, if I had an open fireplace I'd probably turn it into incredibly slow burning briquettes.

Maybe I'll mix it with cement and make something for the garden. (Google "papercrete" or paper-crete or similar to find some ideas.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 03, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
Those are really good ideas, Gyp. I don't have an open fireplace, but the fire pit in my ex's back yard (my work!) is an excellent alternative.

I might go the papercrete option to make stuff for my balcony. I want to start a balcony garden and need plant pots. Big uns. I want to grow herbs, fruits and veggies. Not too interested in things I can't eat.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 03, 2018, 04:58:34 PM
I'm afraid to ask where Alice is these days (Country4gal).  And I wonder if Wolf will show up to destroy any hopes or dreams?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 03, 2018, 05:27:22 PM
Alice succumbed to cancer July 2016.

Wolfe left for other pastures about a couple years or so ago.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: carriesheppard on January 03, 2018, 07:20:43 PM
Ah sad to hear about Alice  :'(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 03, 2018, 11:11:20 PM
Alice succumbed to cancer July 2016.

Wolfe left for other pastures about a couple years or so ago.

Man, I hate to hear that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 03, 2018, 11:43:11 PM
It was indeed a hard time. We had only lost Ma in the years beginning.  :'( :'(

How much has everyone's life changed since joining the writing group ay
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 03, 2018, 11:51:03 PM
You got that right FF.  It is weird the connection you make with some people even just knowing each other online.

Tomorrow I think I'll try the picture prompt exercise that SC mentioned in the challenge thread. It feels good to be back, but sad to find out about all the changes.  My writing is really rusty and needs refreshing.

Bones, whose card is that on the bar? Use it to buy the house a round.   
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 04, 2018, 12:05:17 AM
That is Andrews card, he is generous like that
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 04, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Bones, I need a drink. I should be going to bed, but I'm too tired.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 04, 2018, 12:24:48 AM
Nights like that are a  killer Dan
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 04, 2018, 09:03:00 AM
They are. Found my way to bed eventually. Woke up to discover my cat is in heat. At least she's not all too noisy. Not yet. It's her first time, so time will tell how she deals with it. I intended to have her "helped" before her first time, but too late now.

Phoned little sis and sang Happy Birthday to her. The alternate version of course.  ;D  We'll go over to her place this afternoon for a nice cuppa and a piece of cake.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 04, 2018, 10:17:53 AM
'Seeing as Andrew's card is still funding the bar, I'll have an Ulster Fry this morning, Bones. I'll need it for the day ahead.'
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 04, 2018, 01:01:24 PM
Coffee, please. And one of those cranberry English muffins which are American and not English at all. Lots of melted butter in the nooks and crannies. And three slices of crisply cooked bacon. Ahhh.

If only there were the same calories in MY kitchen as there are in Bones's.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 04, 2018, 06:08:28 PM
I'm glad there's more calories in my kitchen than in Bones's. I'd be exactly like Bones in no time at all if there weren't. Having said that, I'm glad the alcohol in Bones's bar isn't the same as the one in my own drinks.

Bones, I'll have Martini please.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 04, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
What's on today Cath that is hectic mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 04, 2018, 07:20:00 PM
She can't tell you right now, she's too busy being hectic ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 04, 2018, 07:24:38 PM
Well, I'm done being hectic for today. I made a simple console table to serve as a windowsill in my bedroom this morning. went to visit my little sister this afternoon. I even wrote my 250+ words already, so I'll kick back and relax.
Netflix sounds good right now.

Bones, do me another Martini, will you?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 04, 2018, 07:38:14 PM
 ;D ;D

She was born hectic I think Gyp

Bones, since Dan did so well today, I think you should make me a hot strong latte with honey mate. I can sit and chat while the martini is consumed
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 04, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
"Bones, a bottle to go and a bag of crisps, please.  Bed before midnight tonight."

Have fun, Folks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 05, 2018, 02:41:02 AM
Night mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 05, 2018, 10:22:13 AM
What's on today Cath that is hectic mate?

Minding granddaughter. 2-year-olds have LOTS of energy. :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 05, 2018, 11:30:56 AM
I've been snowbound for two days. It wasn't that much snow and in Ohio it would have been dealt with. But South Carolina doesn't get this kind of snow. They don't have snow plows waiting in lines. They actually took a picture of a snow plow working because it was a rare sight. They also don't have stockpiles of salt to melt the ice. Since it sleeted first and then snowed, there was a layer of ice under the fluffy pretty stuff.

And South Carolina drivers do NOT know how to drive in this crap. They didn't realize the danger of sleet before snow. The roads were simply too treacherous yesterday to go out unless it was absolutely necessary. It wasn't. So I've been inside for two days, going as far outside as the patio in order to get better pictures of the snow, the melting snow, and more snow.

Without a dog or kids, it did stay really pristine and beautiful to look at, especially with the sun glinting off it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 05, 2018, 01:40:40 PM
Oh look! I've become a senior member. I guess my age is showing.

Bones, I could do with some food. A heart attack on a plate sounds like just the thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 05, 2018, 03:52:35 PM
I need a midnight snack thanks Bones
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 05, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
Bloody technology!  I have two cordless handsets in my home and only discovered today that one of them isn't ringing.  There was a muted ringing from the one in the living room, (the doors and walls are quite good at absorbing/containing noise), and not a whisper from the one in my office.

It seems I accidentally turned off the ringer on just that one handset.  I had to go online to find out how to reactivate the bugger.  There was a mini-manual came with it, but the print is about this big - pokey, isn't it? - which is virtually unreadable except on a bright summer's day.

I miss physical switches, even if they were tiny and you needed a straightened paper-clip to set them.

It's ringing like a good-un now, so I've probably accidentally increased the volume as well.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 05, 2018, 04:52:01 PM
My land line rarely rings these days.

I have the same as you and they are now so old, the battery life per call is about three minutes.

Funny how something that was an integral part of life is slowly becoming extinct
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 05, 2018, 05:38:54 PM
We got rid of our land line and all the associated phones prior to this past presidential election cycle. If politicians start calling my cellphone, I will turn that off, too. People will have to send a smoke signal so I can avoid the spam calls.

But so far, just having cellphones is okay. Except when the kids call, we have to hover around the one phone instead of each of us being able to pick up a handset.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 05, 2018, 06:47:19 PM
My phone is an old one. With good old-fashioned switches, just the way I like it. Only, it can't tell me whether I have voicemail messages or not, so anyone stupid enough to leave me a voicemail can count on it that I will never hear it. Their problem. Not mine.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 06, 2018, 09:46:21 AM
I love my mobile phone (A note 4) It has an S-pen so that I can jot things down on the screen. There's something so satisfying about making lists and checking them off. (Yes, I know I'm easily pleased. ;D)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 09:54:00 AM
 ;D ;D

I like it in a waiting room, you can play for an hour and not realise the jerk who accepted your appointment is way behind schedule
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on January 06, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Except when the kids call, we have to hover around the one phone instead of each of us being able to pick up a handset.
Ask the kids to make a conference call to each cell phone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 06, 2018, 12:32:33 PM
My sister conference calls both her sisters and we can all talk together. It's not as good as Sistercation, but it works. I'm going out there in February. We will have to call the employed baby and talk together while I'm out west.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on January 06, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
It's very hot here today - who's buying the cold wet stuff???
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 06, 2018, 01:02:02 PM
Good question.

My cousin, who was an electrician amongst many other things, added a ringer switch to my bedroom phone back when I worked nights.  The phone downstairs still rang, but not the one by my head.  My then-wife usually managed to answer it before the distant ringing downstairs woke me.

This wondrously simple switch consisted of a wooden clothes-peg, two drawing pins for contacts, two short wires tapped into the ringer circuit, and a strip of stiff plastic to hold the contacts apart.  Very much like the improvised pull-switch for a trip flare or booby trap device.

We had a telephone engineer around one day when the line was dodgy and he asked if he could check our phones.

"What the F***s that?"  he asked, then grinned.  ""I know what it is really.  You ex-army?"

"No, but the man who set it up wears green."

He checked it over, after saying he wasn't really supposed to touch unauthorised equipment, and agreed it wasn't causing the problem.

Two days later another man came, did a few tests, and replaced the complete line coming into our house and grumbled that the original had obviously been fitted by 'bloody cowboy contractors' instead of proper BT staff.

He was probably right.  There were lots of shortcuts taken in the building of that estate, such as houses with no real foundations, or no tie-bars between the two layers of a cavity wall.  And despite all the corner cutting the contractors still went bankrupt.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 06, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
My neighbor, friend, yogi, CrossFitter person might bring her kids over to make a snowman in my yard. I still have tons of the stuff. They made a snowman, the but younger son knocked over the older daughter's snowman and now there isn't really enough there to make more. Luckily I still have tons of the stuff.

It isn't supposed to snow here at all. It's not supposed to blizzard, we get hurricanes here. It definitely isn't supposed to linger for days. I'm done with this. It is one of the main reasons I said I would move.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
Send it here, I can melt it real snappy like
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 06, 2018, 03:07:46 PM
Gosh it's cold! My fingers are near frozen.

Trying out this terracotta flowerpot room heater idea. Not sure if it works all that well. Not in a room as large as my living room anyway. It is nice to hold my hands over the "heater" though.

Got a bread pudding going in the slow cooker, but I only put it in about an hour ago, so it isn't nearly ready yet.

Bones, I'll have a hot drink. Tea with rum sounds good.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 03:11:31 PM
What sort of heating do you normally use in such cold conditions Dan?

We have both electric and gas here but its a heat wave at the minute so the a/c is pumping and its 2am  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 06, 2018, 03:22:40 PM
I have central heating. Not individual central heating but collective. One system for all tenants in the entire apartment building. Not the heating system I'd have chosen as I think it's not the most cost efficient system around. So I try not to use it. But with outside temperatures around zero (centigrade) it does get a bit chilly inside.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
If it is centrally heated, can you control the temperature in your apartment yourself? May sound like a dumb question but I have no idea  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 06, 2018, 03:29:40 PM
Yes, I can. Sort of, but not really as well as I'd like to. In my previous home I just set the thermostat to 19 centigrade and that was that. Here it's frost protection, 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. Far from ideal.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 03:38:04 PM
19C is pretty chilly but not frozen I guess mate. That's what I try to set my a/c to for cooling  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 06, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
19C is fine. But that was in my previous home.

It's probably quite a bit cooler in here, but I have no way of measuring how hot/cold it gets. I should buy me a thermometer, but don't feel like spending money on it.

I got the thermostat of my radiator set to 1, and my radiator is cold to the touch. I'd be surprised it it was anywhere over 14/15 C in here. And I would not be surprised to learn it was even colder than that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 06, 2018, 03:56:05 PM
Still trying to figure out exactly how the gas central heating works in the bungalow.  I have the thermostat on the wall in the hallway, set for 17C, and those frost, 1, 2, etc dials on each radiator except the one in the hall which has no individual adjustment.

My Grandaughter seems puzzled the one in the kitchen and the one in my bedroom are only set to 1.

"You do know you can make your bedroom warmer, Grandad?"

"Yes, Pet."

"Then why don't you turn it up higher?"

"Because I go in there to sleep, not be a 'boil in the bag' portion."

"But you don't sleep in you kitchen..."

"Very true, Little One.  It doesn't need to hot in a kitchen."

"Oh!"

She'll learn.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 06, 2018, 04:07:12 PM
Yep.

I've got the ones in the bathroom, kitchen, guest room/home gym set to frost. (Bathroom and kitchen heat up very easily and are actually warmer than my living room. Guest room/home gym doesn't need heating. I get hot enough when I work out anyway.) So it's just the ones in the bedroom and living room that I've set to 1. Bedroom is warmer than living room, which isn't surprising as the living room is twice its size.

I've got blankets in the living room, and usually one or two cats who want to sleep on my lap.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 06, 2018, 05:56:01 PM
We have a furnace and we set the temperature and the house stays within a degree or two of that, with the furnace cycling as needed. We can add more or less fan to the ducts, blowing either hot or cold air. The air conditioner works the same way in the summer. We also have ceiling fans in every room because we don't run the A/C all the time, just when it gets too hot. But even then, we don't set it too low, we just blow the heat around with the ceiling fans. There are no radiators anywhere in the house.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
My a/c will pump today, all of them will in fact. Brett was night work last night so his is on waiting for him to enter his crypt. That room is as dark as a tomb for him working nights, window shutters etc. It all helps with the climate control as well
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 06, 2018, 11:03:23 PM
When I was on permanent nights I had no trouble sleeping in the daylight.  Never felt the need for black-out curtains etc.  My girls could play on the landing without disturbing me.  Woke up instantly if anyone touched the room door though.

Mum told me Dad was the same, so I suspect it's a genetic trait.  Usually out like light when I decide to sleep, and wide awake instantly if something feels wrong.  Go back to sleep again afterwards unless it's been a real adrenaline-stirring interruption, like the time my wife woke me up to tell me the tumble drier was on fire  Took a little bit longer that day ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 11:35:04 PM
I think he would be the same if the shifts were defined starts and finishes. He left two nights ago to start at around 2am and back on the next night at 11pm. He should be home soon, supposed to be 8am and its now 10.30am. He goes on in the morning at 1.30am apparently, unless that changes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 06, 2018, 11:39:41 PM
A random shift pattern is a beast.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 06, 2018, 11:41:04 PM
Yeah they have zones. Bloody painful. I am thinking of sending the CEO an email thanking the prick for changing their shifts to no longer being family friendly. 8 and 9 days in a row work and 2 off is bordering on bullshit that's for sure
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 06, 2018, 11:49:10 PM
My somewhat crazy cousin, before he was married, worked 21 days on and seven off.  The days were usually twelve hours each.  He loved it.   It was at least regular, and they alternated days and nights every 28 days.

He worked at a power station and said there was only about six hours real work in each day, but they had to be 'available' for twelve.  He found it handy to have a mechanical and electrical workshop to 'play with' during 'slack times' and made all sorts of stuff.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 07, 2018, 01:19:23 AM
They have similar here FIFO, fly in, fly out. Most seem to like it here too. A long time away from family though
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 07, 2018, 11:27:03 AM
Hospitals have to be staffed all the time. Those patients want stuff even in the middle of the night. But whatever shift I was on, I was on that. They didn't keep bouncing us around, except when we had call but that was from home and you only got called in about 15-20% of the time and then it was only for a few hours at a crack.

Bouncing around with a different start and stop time is the worst schedule for overall health.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on January 08, 2018, 05:04:03 AM
Bones, pour me a gin and something. Make it a double.
I need a few hours sleep and blackjacks hurt too much.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 08, 2018, 12:11:30 PM
Still snowed in Bones. Slide me a coffee over here, would you please?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 08, 2018, 01:14:33 PM
Hi Chick! It's freezing here, and I need to go grocery shopping. Not looking forward to that.

Bones, I'll have a tea and a sarni.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 08, 2018, 05:17:32 PM
We are officially above freezing. The temperature is supposed to stay above freezing. The snow and ice will melt. There is hope.

In joy and gratitude, I will gladly pay for the next hour for all those strolling thru the bar and grille. I will even use my own card to pay. Now that's gratitude.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 08, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
Cheers, M'Dear.  I'll have a large steaming mug of lemon tea.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 08, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
And I'll have an Irish Coffee.

Thanks Chick! Just what a guy needs on a cold day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 08, 2018, 06:11:31 PM
Coffee, black, and over-caffeinated.

Thanks, Spell Chick.

BTW, Spell Chick, I just read your blog post on losing your Crossfit. From the tone of your writing, you sound like you accept it. Is it really that easy to give up?

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 08, 2018, 09:22:06 PM
 :o :o

Is this some sort of trick Chick? Is this card a marked card? Does it bounce back and hit the users card?

Wow I should be on the question thread for this.

Bones, hit me with a latte mate, its early and I need it
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 08, 2018, 10:48:20 PM
I had an unplanned but welcome visit from my Grandaughter today.  After she left I was totally knackered and lay down for 'a couple of hours' which turned into four.

Waking up with dinner still to cook and eat at 10-30 PM wasn't the plan, so some sort of snack will do instead of the chicken pie I had lined up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 08, 2018, 11:00:54 PM
DAnuchan, easy answer: no.
But my new gym is just like CrossFit and doesn't pay Greg the fees. Apparently we are even getting ready for the Games. I can't sign up this year because you have to be affiliated with a CrossFit box and this isn't. But I did really bad last year anyway. I mean I wasn't the worst person in the world or anything, but I was far down the list.


FF, I'm really just that happy that this damn snow is going away.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 08, 2018, 11:41:03 PM
Maybe some of our heat floated your way Spell. It melted the makeup off the shop assistants face so who knows  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 09, 2018, 10:28:01 AM
"Bones, an all day breakfast if you'd be so kind.".
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 09, 2018, 11:55:33 AM
"Bones, an all day breakfast if you'd be so kind.".

You plan to spend the entire day eating breakfast? That only leaves the night for writing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 09, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Shocking, isn't it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 09, 2018, 12:50:56 PM
Well you still have the nights for writing and my pal Reginald tells me Saturday night's alright for writing. I think that's what he said.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 09, 2018, 01:01:49 PM
Mr Dwight's diction may have left something to be desired there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 09, 2018, 02:57:37 PM
All day breakfast? Sounds good to me. I'm starving. To be honest, it's 4PM over here, so not exactly breakfast time, but I just had some bread pudding and an egg and my stomach is still growling. (Had breakfast and lunch too, today, so that can't be the problem.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 09, 2018, 04:03:20 PM
My brown grass is out there in lovely splendor. The shrubs are either sticks or mossy green. I don't know if the palmetto palm survived the assault, but it may have. All the camellias are dead but the bush itself still lives.

I never thought I would be so glad to see brown dormant grass. But I am.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 09, 2018, 04:51:35 PM
Bones, serve up the healthiest meal you've got. Hope it's more than a glass of water...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 09, 2018, 05:15:35 PM
Bones, I don't care if it's healthy as long as it's tasty, filling and a lot. I swear I could eat a horse. All of it.

And a tea to wash it all down.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 09, 2018, 11:35:15 PM
Once a week, I make seven salads. Well, mostly. I add the final protein and some sunflower seeds along with the dressing just before I eat the thing.

But I would never take the time to make a salad each evening for my light meal. (We eat our main meal at noonish.) Once a week works and I can just grab my healthy salad and in two minutes or less have a wonderful meal ready. And it keeps me from eating so much crap.

Tip from the OCD person.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 10, 2018, 12:08:43 AM
I have today, made a coffee ice cream for dessert tonight to be served on brioche buns. We will have a light pasta salad to accompany it. I have a guest tonight  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 10, 2018, 09:28:29 AM
Morning guys. I've got two cats on my lap, trying to take over my keyboard. And eat my buttons at the same time. And I need breakfast. A second breakfast that is.

Bones, a heart attack on a plate would serve me just fine.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 10, 2018, 01:29:32 PM
Just strolling through before I get up the energy to start a load of laundry.

Bones, a nice almond croissant would probably fuel me. Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 10, 2018, 01:38:01 PM
Afternoon all. Been a busy few days but I've now got a quiet hour to myself. I shall settle next to the fire and enjoy the peace and quiet.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 10, 2018, 01:40:01 PM
Hi Chick, Cathy!

Bones, what's on the menu for lunch? Couscous you say? That's nice. A double portion would probably be enough.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 10, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
Hey Barflies, had a scrumptious dinner, dessert and bevvies, this is the life
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 10, 2018, 02:06:30 PM
Sounds good Fly!

If it weren't so early in the day still, I'd join you for a bevvy. I guess for now a nice strong cuppa will do.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 10, 2018, 03:55:10 PM
Bones, something strong that I can eat out of a cup with a spoon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 10, 2018, 05:49:30 PM
I made beer cheese soup. We love this stuff. Last time, I bought the cheese in bulk and froze half of it to use next time. This was the next time.

DO NOT do this. The soup itself freezes and is great for leftovers at another time. The cheese simply did not want to melt nicely. It was still delicious, but it wasn't the smooth creamy stuff it usually is. I won't do this again. Fresh cheese each time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 10, 2018, 09:23:59 PM
Techie bit about freezing cheese.

Cheese tends not to freeze nicely.  More specifically, it doesn't thaw out nicely.  It may taste okay, and it won't kill you, but the texture is likely to change.

Casting my mind back to Tech College around fifty years ago this is probably because most home freezers just can't freeze fast enough, even if you let the product cool thoroughly first.  In a commercial blast freezer you get the benefits of the chill factor, and the product, (frozen peas  are a good example), gets shuffled around and tumbled so they don't stick together in lumps which would then freeze too slowly.

Ice crystals which form almost instantly are much smaller than those formed slowly.

If the crystals are smaller than the individual cells of whatever you're freezing they don't break the cell walls.  (They'll break some, but not enough to be a problem.)  But the bigger crystals formed in a slower acting freezer will definitely rupture the cell walls.  As a consequence when the product thaws it will be lumpy or crumbly  because of the free moisture, and in the case of soft fruits they will be positively mushy.

This is why you can freeze grated cheese fairly successfully.  Especially if you spread it out flat and thin on a tray for freezing, even if you bundle and bag it afterwards.  Why?  The act of grating increases the surface area available for quick freezing, and thus the individual ice crystals are smaller.

In summary, frozen cheese won't kill you, (there's no reason it should.)  But the texture may well disappoint you.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 11, 2018, 02:48:20 AM
And it was the texture creating my problem.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 11, 2018, 07:05:00 AM
What a day, so much going on with the kids and the dogs, time to kick back and have a nice hot cuppa thanks Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 11, 2018, 08:16:24 AM
Texture can be a bitch. Right food but wrong texture can completely spoil an otherwise excellent meal.

Bones, do me a heart attack on a plate please. I'm starving again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 11, 2018, 11:56:10 AM
Texture can be a bitch. Right food but wrong texture can completely spoil an otherwise excellent meal.


First world problems ... but that's where I live and those are the problems I have. Lucky me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 11, 2018, 01:01:31 PM
 :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 11, 2018, 07:41:54 PM
Bones,
Something that will put me to sleep.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 11, 2018, 08:03:06 PM
Danuchan,

Our skeletal barman can provide any food or drink known to man, and a few which probably aren't.  But just occasionally he displays a dark sense of humour.

'Something to put me to sleep' could invite a smack over the head with his cut-down billiard cue 'pacifier' if he's in one of those moods.  Or a few drops of Chloral Hydrate if he's feeling gentle.

It's rare, but now you've been warned.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 11, 2018, 08:35:16 PM
Thanks for the warning, Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 12, 2018, 08:29:14 AM
Good... that time that it is, folks. And so forth.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 12, 2018, 09:15:10 AM
We aren't going to abandon Bones are we?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 12, 2018, 09:20:42 AM
No, he's quit MWC to come work for us.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 12, 2018, 09:24:58 AM
Glad to hear it. Bones, how about some sweet rum and coffee? I feel like I need a good cry. Sort of an oxymoron, isn't it? A good cry.


It makes me really sad to leave behind all of those good memories.  :'(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 12, 2018, 09:48:18 AM
Crying is good. It's cathartic.

Especially when you put on a sappy movie, like The Godfather, and have a really good cry.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 12, 2018, 09:52:38 AM
We all feel the same way Deb but there is no one running the show there and Karl kindly built us a new home so we wouldn't be turfed onto the cold streets
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 12, 2018, 09:59:25 AM
It makes me really sad to leave behind all of those good memories.  :'(

But we don't leave them behind. We take them with us. :-*

Bones, give DG another drink to cheer her up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 12, 2018, 10:38:42 AM
But we don't leave them behind. We take them with us. :-*

That's right!

Deb, hope you're feeling comforted now.

Bones, I am starving. Yes, I know it's like a constant refrain. That's what it feels like to me too, but I can't help it. I can only make it stop - temporarily - by eating.

Today is a yogurt and muesli for breakfast day. Thanks Bones!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 12, 2018, 11:41:02 AM
What a great morning. I'm still alive. Really. Isn't it amazing. Lots of people my age didn't get this far. And here I am. Alive and mostly well.

Mostly, you ask. Well, I had a massage yesterday and my neck was really tight and Jose worked on that a lot and now it's sorta sore. But on the positive side, the crunhiness is gone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 12, 2018, 12:25:14 PM
Yes, it is fantastic that you're still among the living. Good job.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 12, 2018, 02:20:27 PM
It makes me really sad to leave behind all of those good memories.  :'(

Deb, we have brought the heart, and the Esprit de Corps with us.

Look at it this way.  You're in at the start of something which will only get better, and with the people who are on board already we can hit the ground running.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on January 12, 2018, 02:27:18 PM
Cheers to new beginnings.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 12, 2018, 03:32:42 PM
What would happen if a new member joined with the user name Bones? Would he or she feel compelled to respond to all the requests in this forum? Or would they leave immediately?

Just wondering...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 12, 2018, 04:06:19 PM
They would get confused very quickly I suspect ;-)  On the other hand we have some members who never visit the bar so if he was one of those he'd probably rattle along quite happily.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 12, 2018, 04:17:41 PM
Never visits the bar? *shivers* What do they do for online sustenance?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 12, 2018, 05:15:49 PM
Makes a man wonder, eh?

Bones, I could do with a drink. And give Dan his bevvy of choice too.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 12, 2018, 05:28:55 PM
Are you guys Dan 1 and Dan 2? Who's 1?

I could use a nice chocolate torte with some silvered almonds in the icing. And perhaps a bit of hot fudge sauce drizzled over the whole thing. Thanks, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 12, 2018, 06:30:52 PM
Are you guys Dan 1 and Dan 2? Who's 1?

I suppose we are. Dan 1 would be the one who joined BWF first. Then of course, we could always get creative with the names.


I could use a nice chocolate torte with some silvered almonds in the icing. And perhaps a bit of hot fudge sauce drizzled over the whole thing. Thanks, Bones.

That sounds good. I'll have some of that too, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 12, 2018, 07:00:20 PM
Are you guys Dan 1 and Dan 2? Who's 1?

I suppose we are. Dan 1 would be the one who joined BWF first. Then of course, we could always get creative with the names.


Just checked timestamps. dansinger joined five hours before I did, so I'm Dan2.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 12, 2018, 07:01:46 PM
Well, that problem 's solved then.

I'll have a Martini to celebrate. How about you Dan? What's your poison of choice tonight?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 12, 2018, 07:05:02 PM
Thanks, Dan. I'll have an imported mineral water. Healthful.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 12, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
Hey, guys. I just noticed I've got a +1 karma. Drinks are on me!
Was that you, Spell Chick? Thanks to whoever it was.

Now that was refreshing. Bones, an application of butt glue so I can get back to work.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 12, 2018, 08:19:51 PM
I'll have another Martini. Thanks Dan!

And I'm in on my new device. Had to reset my password as I stupidly forgot my old one, but I'm all set now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 12, 2018, 09:43:27 PM
I will never remember Dan#1 and Dan#2. Can I called you Dan-chan and Dansgame?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 13, 2018, 11:52:11 AM
Dansgame? I'm not a bloody gamer!

I've a better idea. You could just call me Singer.


Bones, I'm starving again here! Is that duck you have there? I'll have some of that on a sandwich.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 13, 2018, 12:08:41 PM
With or without the feathers?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 13, 2018, 12:09:53 PM
Oh, I'm not that picky. If there's some feathers with the duck, my cats will happily devour them. They like sharing my food.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 13, 2018, 12:23:49 PM
It's morning in this part of the world. Bones, if I might have some breakfast. I think some blueberry pancakes would be nice. Topped with some blueberry syrup and whipped cream. Throw in a side of crisply cooked bacon. And of course, a large cup of steaming hot coffee. Ahhh.


Dan 1/2 I don't know who is who. I barely know who I am most of the time. Life is so difficult for me most days. Maybe even all the days. I can overthink the joy out of any situation. See? I have met two wonderful Dans and here I am, in a stew.

Perhaps I should lighten up a bit. Hi, Dans - both of you.
I think that worked.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 13, 2018, 12:28:50 PM
Hi Chick. Yes it worked. And please, get out of that stew right now. I'm not Hannibal bloody Lecter.  :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 13, 2018, 12:40:04 PM
Then would you like some pancakes? Bones made plenty.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 13, 2018, 12:53:25 PM
It's all but midnight here, may just have a night cap and slide on in between some nice cool sheets
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 13, 2018, 12:57:25 PM
I'd love some pancakes Patti. You'll probably know by now that I'm always hungry.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 13, 2018, 02:08:13 PM
Dansgame? I'm not a bloody gamer!

I've a better idea. You could just call me Singer.


Bones, I'm starving again here! Is that duck you have there? I'll have some of that on a sandwich.

I wish I could, but I can't change my mind.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 13, 2018, 09:35:48 PM
Morning Bones, time for a large hot strong latte with a drizzle of honey thanks mate.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 13, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
Bones,
Half a cup of instant coffee, then fill the cup with hot water. That should be the boost I need for this evening of work.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 13, 2018, 09:54:31 PM
I'm done for today. A nightcap would be nice.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 13, 2018, 09:59:06 PM
"Bones, a bottle of white label and slice of that rather lovely looking pork pie, please.  Think I'll sit in the corner over by the fire..  It smells nice.  Are you burning Apple wood again?"

Out of compassion for my neighbour I've stopped shredding for the day.  I didn't realise it was nearly ten.  I have a self appointed deadline of 'nine-ish'.

I have a small box of stuff for the hand-shredder because Alma didn't want to be made redundant by the black beast.  "You won't take my little job away, will you Grandad?"  She likes to feel useful. 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 13, 2018, 10:27:07 PM
I might go fill my diffuser with some nice smells. Patchouli, because I am an old hippy and maybe one of the citrus selection. Grapefruit sounds like the go
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 13, 2018, 10:48:20 PM
My diffuser just sits there mocking me for all the money I spent on it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 13, 2018, 11:39:03 PM
I have two now and run both most days. Such a lovely aroma wafting through. I have a bigger collection of scented candles too, I use them when we have people over mostly
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 14, 2018, 08:50:46 AM
Morning guys! How you doing?

Bones, I need a full breakfast. And hurry up please or I'll end up looking just like you.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 14, 2018, 12:09:29 PM
Rattling Bones. . . hmmm hmmm hmmm, singing. . .


Good morning wonderful people. Hope everyone is well.


Bones, it's time for bed and I have a headache. How about two Excedrin Migraine caps, a tall glass of water, and pst, stick a shot of tequila under the bar in front of my seat in case I wake up later and find the Excedrin hasn't worked?  Thank you.

In the mean time, I'll buy a round for the house. First three breakfasts are on me. I have someone's card.


Have a great day Folks.

Hugs
~Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 14, 2018, 12:44:39 PM
And didn't I step into the parlor at the correct moment says the spider to the fly. Wait, it wasn't Fly, it was Deb. Either way, breakfast.

Let's see.

First, let's start with eggs Benedict. Add a bowl of bite sized pieces of melon - cantaloupe, honeydew, and watermelon. I know the eggs come with Canadian bacon, but I would also like two strips of thick sliced apple wood smoked bacon cooked to a crispy perfection. And then, coffee. Glorious coffee. With cream, no sugar. I'm sweet enough.

Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 14, 2018, 01:31:47 PM
Get well, Deb.

Hi Chick!

Breakfast eh? It's actually past lunch time over here, but I'll have breakfast for tea. Bones, make it a good one. Don't make me say it again. I'm st...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 14, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
"Bones, a pint of lemonade and lime, and a nice thick cheese sarnie, please."

The great Shred-Athon is over.  Well, the first round of it.  I had two Royal Mail sacks bulging with 'confidential waste' which moved house with me because I didn't manage to get rid of it first.  I recently bought a shredder which can run for nearly half an hour without overheating and cutting out, if you don't overload it.  I'll take a picture of all the bags of shreddings later just for the hell of it.

Cross-cut shreddings certainly take up a lot more space than closely packed wodges of bank statements, etc.  Our kerb-side recycling collection doesn't take shredded paper because of 'handling issues'.  They mean it blows all over the damned place.

I'm still toying with the idea of mixing it all with cement and making something for the garden, so they may just end up back in the shed for a while.

Gyppo

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 14, 2018, 04:36:48 PM
Hi Gyppo!

That cheese sarnie sounds good. Bones, do me one of those as well, will you? And a nice strong cuppa.

I'll be over there, by the fire.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 14, 2018, 07:14:30 PM
Mellow Mushroom is a chain of restaurants here. There is one 20 minutes from our house in that direction and one 20 minutes from our house in the opposite direction. One is by the outlet mall, the other by a Target. I've been to the outlet mall lately, so we went to the one by Target.

Last time, at the outlet mall MM, they ran out of coffee. This time, at the Target MM, their coffee maker was broken. How do you run a restaurant and have no coffee?

I'm drinking postprandial coffee now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 14, 2018, 07:55:29 PM
How was your postprandial coffee, Patti? Was it any better than your ordinary coffee?

Bones, I'll have a Martini please. I'll be over there by the fire again, getting warm and comfy while I do some writing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 14, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
We have a restaurant here that serves a turkey and avocado sandwich, but twice now they've been out of avocado...... Fortunately there is enough other stuff on there to still make it good.  The time before that I tried a different option but it was not nearly as good as the turkey and avocado without the avocado.

I haven't met the writing challenge for a couple of days. I know, it was my idea.  But it is all OK. I gave up beating myself up over things like this. Life goes on.

So yesterday morning I started cleaning my office. That is no small project, but I tried to keep it simple.  I wanted to move some furniture, but hubby told me to just clean up everything first before making a bigger mess.  Oddly enough, I thought about what he said and decided he was right even though I didn't tell him that. I cleaned and dusted, dusted and cleaned. I emptied bookshelves and dusted and cleaned some more. I wiped down all of the furniture and tried to get rid of all the bunnies.

This morning I got up and went in there and looked around while I drank my coffee. And I made the "executive" decision to move the furniture today. At 5am everything looks doable.  Before I started I got out my sketchbook and sketched out where everything was to go.  I measured everything and then made a step-by-step list. My process was clearly defined. Everything had to be moved in a particular order to make it work. My office is big, but so is my furniture. And damn is it heavy.

Once I had the plan, I held nothing back. I emptied drawers, rolled up my big rug, and started pushing and shoving everything to a pre-determined location. I scrubbed the floor in each area before moving anything else back in. The floor is one of those laminate hardwood floors. I first scrubbed it clean, then dried it with a dry cloth, and then polished it with that Pledge floor stuff, like furniture polish only for the floors (probably the exact same product just repackaged). Figured out early on that I had to let it dry thoroughly before walking on it because otherwise my shoe prints scuffed it up. So I ended up doing some sections twice.

I also had to move some of the furniture twice because the real version didn't look as good as my sketched out version. I have three bookcases, a lateral file cabinet, and a writing table that I was hoping to put along the one wall. No go. The lateral file is too deep and ended up being too close to the desk. So I had to move the file cabinet back out and move one of the bookcases back in. And then stood back and looked at it. That didn't work either. Damn it man!

Two of the bookcases are the same and one is different. The original plan was to have the different case in between the two alike, separated by the lateral file cabinet and the writing table. So after I moved the file cabinet, I went ahead and moved the different case into the middle spot. Stood back and studied again. Then I decided that the bookcases could not be all lined up side-by-side. The different case in middle did not look right because it is deeper than the other two like the lateral file.

And while I was moving things along that wall, I saw the screw still in the wall that used to hold a pretty clock that I have. For whatever reason the clock was on the floor in the closet with a dead battery.  I got it out, cleaned it up and put a new battery in it. I decided that if it still worked, I would have to move the bookcases so that I could still put the clock up.  And it worked.  Finally, after a couple rounds of moving things around, pushing, pulling, and shoving, I got it right. The larger, different bookcase is no longer in the middle of the two like ones. They are perfectly centered in the space between my desk and the credenza in front of the window.

And there is enough space for the clock and two pictures that I also found in the closet. A third picture still had stretch-film wrapping around it and is up over my computer desk along the opposite wall.  I have no idea where that picture came from, don't ever remember seeing it. Maybe hubby bought it for his girlfriend and I just found it who knows.

Finally, I rolled out the rug on one side of the office and vacuumed it real good. I can't unroll the part on the other side of my desk yet because of the cabinet and writing table. So now it is time to put all the books back on the shelves. Got some done but not all of it.

I have to log off now. But you all have a basic view of the last couple of days. 


 


Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 14, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
And you wrote 250+ words just now. :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 14, 2018, 09:56:32 PM
And you wrote 250+ words just now. :)

Yes, and probably did it without thinking or agonising over it too ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 14, 2018, 11:49:00 PM
I stopped agonizing over my writing when I finally decided that it's free, so you get what you pay for.

I still will correct a typo when I find it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 15, 2018, 02:20:20 AM
Soooo Bird, where are the photos?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 15, 2018, 10:04:51 AM
Eleven. Stew is in the slow cooker, laundry is almost done, cats are fed, I had breakfast, so now's a good time to take a break.

Bones, a nice strong cuppa, please. And a couple of those biccies too.

I've really got too sew those curtains, and also really don't want to. But I've been putting it off for months already, so I'd better get that sewing machine out and get going. Pity I don't have a house elf.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 15, 2018, 11:41:13 AM
I would love to have a houseful of minions. People to get in my way and bother me at inopportune times. Just like having the kids around again, but cleaning up the messes instead of making them.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 15, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Exactly!

One curtain down, two to go. I so hate this job. Not the sewing itself, which is a breeze once you've got all that dratted prep work out of the way. The measuring, folding, ironing... I could well do without all that crap.

Having said that, my new and neatly sewn curtain looks good.

Bones, I need a tea. Make that two.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 15, 2018, 02:35:50 PM
tea for two?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 15, 2018, 02:39:36 PM
Just for one. I was very thirsty.

But you know what, I'm feeling generous, so have a tea. And some chocolate. I know you love chocolate.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 15, 2018, 03:02:52 PM
Gyppo and Bird, you're ambition is inspiring. Wish it was inspiring enough to get me motivated. I don't know what my problem is lately but since Christmas has come and gone, it seems my drive drove off without me. I don't know if I bottomed out after the commotion from the fire or what.

On another note, last night we watched a classic on YouTube uploaded from a sketch comedy series that was popular in the early eighties called, Fridays. One recurring sketch, called "Drugs Rx Us" features a pharmacist played by, Mark Blankfield, who samples the drugs. The series was one of my favorites way back when but watching this skit 35 years later was a treat.

Yesterday, I found the sketch to be so hysterically funny, I cried laughing. I could hardly catch my breath from laughing so hard. I had to watch it again today to see if it was truly that funny or if I was teetering on the extreme side of punchy. Perhaps it was a little of both.

After having more involvement with Community Theater and supporting our boy's through 8 years of drama classes since I last saw this skit, I have a better appreciation for what goes into creating a good scene. Convincing comedy is not easy to pull off.

The over-amped up barista has been done to death and I’m all too aware that drug abuse is no laughing matter but Mark Blankfield put a lot of energy into playing the pharmacist in the “Drugs Rx Us” bit. He hit every ridiculous, stereotypical side affect with the kinds of extremes rare in comedy these days.

I’ll leave you with the link and you can decide for yourself if you like. I hope you’ll be able to set the seriousness of drug abuse reality aside for a few minutes and enjoy the extremes of this particular humor. It’s not for everyone so don't judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5wDK-Z38o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5wDK-Z38o)

Have a great day.
~Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 15, 2018, 03:13:21 PM
Hi Deb! Have a drink on me. I found someone's card, so I can afford it today.

Never heard of the series you're talking about but will check out that link later. It sounds fun.

I'll have another tea Bones. And biscuits. Tons of them. I need to get motivated to sew those last two curtains. Did all the prep work on them already, and I hurt like hell now, so not really willing to get up from the couch and do anything.

But I need those curtains back up tonight. They're my bedroom curtains and I have no others. Took them down this morning and cut off some 85 cm. They were way too long, but at least they gave me the privacy I want in my bedroom. It'll be nice to have properly fitting curtains though.

Haven't put up the blinds yet either, so that's a job for tomorrow. Maybe. I've so much to do before my surgery - and so little time to get it all done.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 15, 2018, 06:14:48 PM
OK. Time for some Netflix.

Bones, a hot chocolate please. With rum.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 15, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
After reading WB's account of redecorating and having wanted to move things around for about six months now, I finally did. I got rid of some crap and rearranged the rest. My room isn't as big as WB's so it didn't take as long.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 15, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Why on earth did you wait that long? I want to move stuff around, I move it around. I only put off sewing. And maybe some other stuff I dislike doing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 15, 2018, 09:45:10 PM
Six months to finally move things around? Sounds about right.

Bones, something strong enough so I can get through this forum.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 15, 2018, 09:52:15 PM
Reminds me of the man saying to his wife, "Honey, when I say I'll do something I'll do it.  You don't need to remind me every six months."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 15, 2018, 11:29:08 PM
Morning barflies. I have had a productive one this morning myself. I might attack my wardrobe and free myself of all the clothes I no longer wear. It will make it easier to do it now then when we are ready to move that's for sure
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 16, 2018, 12:18:20 AM
I waited because I need to do this stuff when Dick is out of the house or he gets all crabby or even worse, wants to help. And because I'm lazy. I had a bunch of crap to move and some to get rid of and things to reorganize so the new space would be cleaner. Well, less cluttered.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 16, 2018, 01:57:28 AM
Yes I haven't actually been any further then thinking about it
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 16, 2018, 07:18:43 AM
Hmmmm. Thunder and lightning today. And it's raining cats and dogs.

I was going to go see my mum this afternoon, but now I'm not so sure anymore. Not going anywhere unless the weather improves. I love lightning - but only when I'm safe inside.

Pity though. Mum's got cancer and her oncologist stopped all her meds (heart, diabetes) and gave her something to (hopefully) stop the nausea instead. Then he send her back home and told her the GP would take it from there. He couldn't tell how long she has left. Maybe a few months, maybe a year. So - even though my relationship with my mum has always been a complicated one - I'd really wanted to go and see her. But it looks like that's not happening today.


I waited because I need to do this stuff when Dick is out of the house or he gets all crabby or even worse, wants to help. And because I'm lazy.

Now that's something I can understand. I'm lazy too.

And my living alone does help when I want to get things done, because nobody is ever in my way - except for the cats, but I can simply pick them up and put them in a different room with the door closed, so that's easily solved.

Bones! A tea please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 16, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
I'm getting ready to go to the gym this freezing morning. We aren't supposed to have so much freezing weather here in the South. At least this place has some temperature control, so it won't hurt my hands to touch the metal things.

Next Monday, we are to be back up to 70F, which is far better than the 29 it is here this morning.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 16, 2018, 12:17:17 PM
Speaking of laziness, which we were earlier, I can switch between lazy (according to some people) and hyper.  The hyper is a bit less sustainable these days due to my general health, but I still have a 'job and finish' mentality.  I'm told I can be a bit scary when I'm being 'efficient'

There is no way I could now hack out the first draft of a novel in thirty-nine hours, spread over three days between shifts at my day job.  But I did it once.

I still prefer longer uninterrupted spells at the keyboard.  Just not that long.

Yet some people will tell you I have a butterfly brain, flitting madly from thing to thing.  This is true to some extent, because the world is full of wonderful things to pursue and watch, but I like to feel I can set a perimeter of sorts to my mental grass-hopper when necessary.

Organised, efficient, and effective aren't just metaphors for the same thing, although the way some people use or understand language you could be excused thinking they are.  I know people who are wonderfully organised, but not very efficient, and hardly effective at all.  But because they're so busy being organised they see themselves as very 'productive'.

Living alone I can work with my nature, rather than making it fit around other's lives.  Apart from Grandaughter day, when we both march to a different drum ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 16, 2018, 01:26:53 PM
I don't think I've ever been hyper. Though my lazy is different from what most people would call lazy. what I mean is, it would be perceived as laziness by probably most people, when in reality I'm so completely out of spoons (https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/) I've already used up tomorrow's spoons as well and maybe even those for the day after tomorrow. Somehow I usually prefer to call it laziness.

Now, Bones, I could use a bowl of the soup you've got there. I'll be over by the fire.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 16, 2018, 03:16:51 PM
Bones, something to calm my nerves. I'm feeling a bit hyper.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 16, 2018, 03:18:55 PM
Now that you say it, yes, you do look a but hyper.  ;D

Bones, a tea would be nice. And some biccies.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 16, 2018, 03:49:40 PM
Did someone mention biscuits? ;D *Plonks self down by the fire alongside Dansinger*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 16, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
When you guys talk biscuits, you mean cookies, right?

I don't want any biscuits, but I would love some warm from the oven chocolate chip cookies. The gooey stuff. And a coffee to go with them.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 16, 2018, 05:22:47 PM
Hi Cathy! I just ordered some more. When you want something to eat, you'd best come find me. I'm most always hungry these days.

Also, mini bakpau's in a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 16, 2018, 05:24:10 PM
When you guys talk biscuits, you mean cookies, right?

Yes. Most of what you guys call cookies are really biscuits. Though chocolate chip cookies, yes, those are cookies for real.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 16, 2018, 07:56:34 PM
I'm all for cookies.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 16, 2018, 08:28:19 PM
When you guys talk biscuits, you mean cookies, right?

Yes. Most of what you guys call cookies are really biscuits. Though chocolate chip cookies, yes, those are cookies for real.

Ironically we have a Dutchman (correct?) telling a American that cookies are really biscuits when cookie derives form the dutch word koekje. All sounds a bit crackers to me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 16, 2018, 08:41:36 PM
Ironically we have a Dutchman (correct?) telling a American that cookies are really biscuits when cookie derives form the dutch word koekje. All sounds a bit crackers to me.

It's a bit more complicated than that Mark. We have koekjes and biscuitjes. And Dutch biscuitjes are more like the British biscuits than like what our US friends call biscuits. And just liek the cookies in British English koekjes are, well chocolate chip cookies, e.g. There's a definite difference between the two.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 16, 2018, 10:45:38 PM
Personally I like a nice sticky slice myself

Bones, a latte and a slice of that slice thanks mate  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 16, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
So, we are divided by a common language. Le sigh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 16, 2018, 11:23:36 PM
But its all sweet  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 17, 2018, 12:50:25 AM
"Bones, a bottle to go, if you'd do the honours.  I see trade is picking up a bit."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jewel on January 17, 2018, 05:58:57 AM
Bones, a shot of coffee if you please. Back at the salt mine after 3 weeks away is proving a challenge. I need a pick-me-up to find my get-up-and-go.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 17, 2018, 07:54:03 AM
Hi Cathy! I just ordered some more. When you want something to eat, you'd best come find me. I'm most always hungry these days.

Also, mini bakpau's in a couple of minutes.

Had to look bakpau up. They sound nice, but I don't eat red meat, so I may have to pass.

It's a stinker of a morning here. Heavy snow and at the moment it's either snowing heavily or raining. (I ain't putting my head outside to check. Brrr(

'Bones, I'll have an Ulster fry, thank you. And a mug of your strongest coffee.' I have a feeling it's just gonna be that kind of day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 17, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Since you're shouting. ...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 17, 2018, 09:37:38 AM
Had to look bakpau up. They sound nice, but I don't eat red meat, so I may have to pass.

It's a stinker of a morning here. Heavy snow and at the moment it's either snowing heavily or raining. (I ain't putting my head outside to check. Brrr(

'Bones, I'll have an Ulster fry, thank you. And a mug of your strongest coffee.' I have a feeling it's just gonna be that kind of day.

I don't do pork. In fact, I'm not much of a meat eater at all. But there's vegetarian bakpaus, which are really nice. The ones I had yesterday were chicken ones, and not quite as nice as the ones I usually have. Still, they were OK.

We just had snow too, but it's stopped snowing. For now. I should go out for a quick run to the shops, seeing that I'm all out of food now, but I really don't want to. I think I'll invite myself to the ex's for supper. Ask the ex to take me to the shop as well. This kind of weather is a beast when you're in a wheelchair.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 17, 2018, 01:03:20 PM
I slept in and then had to rush around and get the day started. So I'm already 1.5 hours behind. Bones. I really, really need more coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 17, 2018, 04:59:36 PM
Bones, a cuppa java so strong the spoon stands up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 17, 2018, 05:47:15 PM
Bones, would you like to do some yoga with me? It's next on my list of things to do.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on January 17, 2018, 05:59:19 PM
Not mine. I just want some of DAnuchan's coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 17, 2018, 06:23:06 PM
Not mine. I just want some of DAnuchan's coffee.

Guaranteed to keep you alert for a week.
 :D :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 17, 2018, 08:34:09 PM
Bones, a Martini please.

My cat is getting in heat again. Poor thing doesn't know what to do with herself and my male - he doesn't have what it takes, if you know what I mean.

Wait! What's that Bones? A cheese platter? Don't mind if I have some.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 17, 2018, 09:19:35 PM
Morning barflies, I'm heading for that coffee pot too

Weird day out there and those doves are taunting me again
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 17, 2018, 09:34:24 PM
Good afternoon. Still coffee time so I'll have one.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 17, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
Nice one Spell. I love it when you shout  :-*

I don't know what to do with what is left of the day, I best do something, it will be over before yours otherwise
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 18, 2018, 12:26:40 AM
Oh come on FF. Like working with the guy fire fighters is all that tough.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 18, 2018, 12:46:36 AM
Soooo Bird, where are the photos?

Not done yet FF, only half of the room. I actually did a rough count of my books, which is just ridiculous. About 500. I worked on Sunday until I just couldn't move. Still have to finish this coming weekend.  But as they say, no pain no gain.  I'll post pics when I get done this weekend. Hopefully that will be on Saturday, leaving Sunday to play.

There are a couple of changes some of you old-timers may see. I re-painted a while back. Changed from the pinkish color to a soothing sage green color. Not overly happy with the change, but I do like the "calmness."

The other change is that my computer table thingy is now on the opposite wall and the bookcases are where that used to be, so it looks very different from when I posted photos last.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 18, 2018, 12:48:27 AM
And you wrote 250+ words just now. :)

Yes, and probably did it without thinking or agonising over it too ;-)

And right you both are. Very observant of you. So...... I'll spring for your next drinks in the bar. Tell Bones Patti's card is hiding under the cash register. >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 18, 2018, 12:55:16 AM
"Cheers, M'Dear."

I'm buying a deep black 'blackout' roller blind for my office window.  To avoid pissing off my neighbours opposite when I stay up late.  I'm thoughtful like that.  In the house trees did the job, except in winter.

I'll probably get something colourful for the kitchen.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 18, 2018, 12:59:01 AM
That's a good idea Gyppo. I have a cheap roll down blind in my office more for the glare than the neighbors. I did not consider how bright the daylight would be when I put that big window in.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 18, 2018, 01:37:34 AM
Have fun with the finishing of that project Bird but I can assure you, we have no hotties like in your pic, close by here mate  :o

We have a lot of block out blinds here for the heat more then the light. Amazing how much they calm that stuff down when in place too.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 18, 2018, 08:17:54 AM
I'll have a nice strong cuppa. Thanks WB!

Oh, and Bones, breakfast please. I'm starved half to death.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 18, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
My son's fire station has at least one real buff hottie type firefighter. Him. hahahahahaha
But Aaron is also a firefighter, so there are at least two.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 18, 2018, 10:09:37 PM
It's only 10 PM but I'm having a go at an early night.

Grandaughter and I had a good time mostly, and one falling out which may have done some good overall, and now I'm knackered.

I've also spent a couple of hours 'mining' some of my old stuff from MWC.

But if I wake up in the small hours I may well drop back in for a while.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 18, 2018, 10:36:25 PM
A little falling out is sometimes needed mate. It teaches them that life isn't all smooth sailing and rules are there for a reason.

I worry my daughters little man will be a menace to society, adorable as a 10 month old can be. But the new generations seem to not want to do their part in making babies into citizens these days
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 19, 2018, 09:41:53 AM
I don't do pork. In fact, I'm not much of a meat eater at all. But there's vegetarian bakpaus, which are really nice. The ones I had yesterday were chicken ones, and not quite as nice as the ones I usually have. Still, they were OK.

We just had snow too, but it's stopped snowing. For now. I should go out for a quick run to the shops, seeing that I'm all out of food now, but I really don't want to. I think I'll invite myself to the ex's for supper. Ask the ex to take me to the shop as well. This kind of weather is a beast when you're in a wheelchair.

Well...did the ex invite you to supper? Inquiring minds want to know. ;D

I can imagine the snow would be difficult in a wheelchair. I use a stick to get about, and snow/ice can be a real danger zone.

Much better to sit here, by the fire, and have another drink. ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 19, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
Well...did the ex invite you to supper? Inquiring minds want to know. ;D

I can imagine the snow would be difficult in a wheelchair. I use a stick to get about, and snow/ice can be a real danger zone.

Much better to sit here, by the fire, and have another drink. ;)

Yep. I had supper with my ex and our son. The ex also took me shopping for groceries, so I've got food in the house again.

Sticks are a pain. I don't envy you. A wheelchair can actually be a lot of fun, and I always make sure to have fun with mine. It helps of course that it's a nice, small wheelchair. Lightweight, good looking and a perfect fit for my body.

Similar to this one:
https://youtu.be/lBYLM-k8OqU

(And yes, mine really has this fantastic back too. Helps me keep perfect posture at all times.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 19, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
I woke up four minutes before the alarm went off. I'm still groggy. Coffee would probably help, but I've had my quota of before gym coffee. So I will just whine.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 19, 2018, 09:47:34 PM
My runes are showing.  Well, in artificial light anyway.

Before I painted my office walls I painted a handful of runes around the window, ones connected with communication and storytelling.   In the same colour paint.  Just as Alma painted her name on my living room walls and some pictures as well.  In daylight they are hidden, but under artificial light I can just about see them as a ghostly image.  Alma's stuff under the grey walls is still hidden, but the light yellow of the office clearly has less covering power.

Maybe the walls should have had another coat of paint, but time was pressing hard on my heels, and they probably won't get it now.  I'd have to move too much stuff around.  When I get my new roller blind in place they'll be back undercover again ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 19, 2018, 10:59:16 PM
Bird:  Well now I have to finish cleaning my office because FireFly wants pics.
Hubby:  What is that?
Bird:  I posted pics before and I need to post more. FireFly said so.
Hubby:  What the hell is FireFly?
Bird:  L** G**. My friend from Australia that I told you about that always posts New Years about 12 hours ahead of us.
Hubby:  Oh, It's a person. It sounded like a drug or something.
Bird:  Well, she is intoxicating.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 19, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
It must be strange for family and friends.  Especially those who don't really understand the worldwide nature of the web.

Mum was fascinated to find she had an international 'fan club', but also a bit puzzled.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 19, 2018, 11:35:02 PM
Bird:  Well now I have to finish cleaning my office because FireFly wants pics.
Hubby:  What is that?
Bird:  I posted pics before and I need to post more. FireFly said so.
Hubby:  What the hell is FireFly?
Bird:  L** G**. My friend from Australia that I told you about that always posts New Years about 12 hours ahead of us.
Hubby:  Oh, It's a person. It sounded like a drug or something.
Bird:  Well, she is intoxicating.  ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Ha ha how funny. Poor Hubby, as Gyp said it is hard for people to understand this sort of thing. All such good mates and never seen a face

So, where are those pictures? I vaguely remember the other ones ages ago, that office was pretty cool
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 19, 2018, 11:50:12 PM
I'll post them this weekend. I will hopefully finish with the grand master plan tomorrow. If not tomorrow, Sunday for sure. I am over half way done.

I don't get much done during the week. But I'll be in bed soon and should be up and at 'em by 4:30 or 5am tomorrow morning.

I am not looking forward to scrubbing the floor. I want to get that out of the way early.


Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 20, 2018, 10:39:32 AM
I have an idiotic question.


I used to upload my pictures to Photobucket, then I could upload them here or wherever.  Photobucket has become ridiculously slow, I'm guessing because I won't pay for premium. Where do you guys upload your photos to so you can post them here? The upload button here does not work like the upload button on Facebook does. I suppose I could upload from Facebook but there are some things I'd rather not share there that I don't mind sharing here.


Do you think I could use the word, "Upload" one more time?

Upload. See? I did it.

Sorry for the overdose of goofiness.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 20, 2018, 10:58:27 AM
There is one called Image Shack I used before Photobucket. It was OK and doesn't mind you using it but PB shut my account cause I wouldn't pay.

If you attach a pic through here, it has to be pretty small in Pixel things to upload too mate. Don't know if you could from FB but give it a go
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 20, 2018, 11:19:52 AM
However, if you upload from FB, those of us who aren't on FB won't be able to see your pictures. You'd have to be logged in to FB to see any content from there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 20, 2018, 11:55:06 AM
However, if you upload from FB, those of us who aren't on FB won't be able to see your pictures. You'd have to be logged in to FB to see any content from there.
Really? I didn't know that. Makes sense, as annoying as that is.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 20, 2018, 12:35:57 PM
Yep. Not making it up. It annoys teh crap out of me, because I'm not on FB.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 20, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
You can download your picture from Facebook and then attach it from your device to here. Then, you can delete the picture from your device. I don't know if Instagram works here and will let everyone see it or not.

If it does work, I don't know how to make it work. If someone else does, let me know how. I can annoy everyone here with the dumb shirts I make instead of just annoying Facebook.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 20, 2018, 01:23:24 PM
Good Morning All,

I got up at 5am started on my floor just before 6. I was so tempted to not clean and polish the area that will be under the rug, but I resisted the urge to half ass the job. Figured it would drive me crazy until I pulled it up and re-did it anyways. So most of the floor is done, the rug back down and vacuumed. I still have to clean and polish the area right inside the door, but I'm waiting to do that at the end. It has to sit for a good while to dry completely, and I don't want foot prints going in and out. I will do that final area either when I'm going to be in the office for a while, or out of it.

I have a small chest that my mom and dad gave me for Christmas one year. The front of it is made to look like books on a shelf. It is 32 x 17 x 16 inches. There are two "against the wall" options for where to put it, but I don't like either one. Another option is to put it in front of my desk. That would be ok, but not ideal.

As I was standing there assessing things, I realized that it might fit in the cabinet area underneath of my aquarium. I have a 90gal aquarium on a big wooden cabinet stand thingy. The doors open up to a storage area.  Measured and it will fit in there, if I can get it in there. By that I mean that the cabinet has a wooden slat for support where the doors rest when closed. Think of your kitchen cabinets that have two doors that close onto that vertical center piece of material.

This is a topic where Hubby and I disagree.  He wants to put everything in a box in the basement or in the attic.  I don’t want my stuff in a box in the basement or in the attic.  To me, that is storage for times when you know you will use something again but for whatever reason you can’t use it now. Like Christmas decorations.

If I’m not going to have it out and enjoy owning it, then I need to get rid of it. If I don’t want to get rid of it, then I need to find a place for it. What good is having something stuffed in a box in the basement?

He already wanted to take my writing table apart and put it in a box in the basement. I told him no, I was going to move it to the living room. Now he said he could move my chest down to the basement or attic. No, No, No. I do understand that not everything can be kept out. I have a lot of stuff put away in drawers and cabinets. But it just bugs me that he wants to take everything I own to the basement. Geez, I live here too, you know.

I’m am on a roll here with getting rid of all the clutter, donating books that I won’t read again, etc. There is stuff in the chest that I need to go through.  Many of the items are decorations that I put in there when I painted years ago. That turned into a debacle, I was depressed, and never got them back out.

At any rate, he said the chest would not fit under the aquarium. I say it will.

He’s getting ready to leave to go to town. Before he gets back, that chest will be under the aquarium.  ;D 8) ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 20, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
When it comes to things fitting under other things...  I have a record cabinet filled with lots of old LPs which I have no intention of parting with.  At the moment it is sat  under the bookshelves Dad built, which came with me.  But it's propping up one end of the shelves slightly, half an inch or so, which means the supporting legs at that end of the shelves  aren't actually touching the floor.  Sturdy enough, but not ideal.  Books don't roll along the slope, but some smaller things do.

It is however an excellent place for the cabinet, out of the way, but easy access when I finally buy myself one of those turntables you can plug into your computer.  (All the ancient record players and speakers went to the tip during my move.)

I was thinking about taking the top off and replacing it with something thinner just to keep the dust out.

Last night, half asleep, the answer came to me.  Take the bloody castors off the bottom ;-)   1)  It doesn't need to support the shelves.  2)  I won't need to roll it around anyway.  3)  The doors will still open just fine.  4)  The resultant inch or so of gap will be a good place for my grandaughter to hide things from me.  Maybe that's not such a good point, but I can slide in a strip of wood to bung up the gap and make a secret stash place ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on January 20, 2018, 02:38:17 PM
4)  The resultant inch or so of gap will be a good place for my grandaughter to hide things from me.  Maybe that's not such a good point, but I can slide in a strip of wood to bung up the gap and make a secret stash place ;-)

Not such a good point, as if. We all know that this was the dealbreaker.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 20, 2018, 03:04:36 PM
Speaking of FB,

There is a group I want to join on FB. But it is one that my employer has set up. I'm scared to join it because I don't want them snooping into what I post on my personal page.

Does anyone know whether or not joining a group on FB gives them access to view my personal page?   
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 20, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
Bird,I don't use Facebook, but...

I am reliably informed by my tame geeks that if you spend enough time working through all the settings, including the ones which are harder to find, ticking (or more likely unticking) appropriate boxes, you can keep things very private if you wish, and you can divide it up so your personal page isn't accessible to anyone without your express permission.

However...  Facebook is (in)famous for 'tweaking the algorithm' and then apologising when the new set-up defaults back to bog-standard and you have to hastily rebuild your fences.  Without warning until enough computer wise people  spread the word.

If you're geeky enough, or trust someone who is to set things up for you, then it can be done.  With that niggling little proviso that Facebook, like most massive organisations, will do what they damned well want as long as they think it's for the greater good.  Or sometimes just for the hell of it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 20, 2018, 04:50:33 PM
Thank you Gyp!  I think I'll just stay away from it for now. It isn't that I post anything that bad. I mean, I am friends with my grandma on there. But it is more the principle. I just don't want them nosing around. If I wanted to be friends with them, I'd send them a friend request.

Here are some pics of my office. I will get it done this weekend....I hope. Damn it is a monumental job. I thought it would go quicker since all the heavy lifting is done. But I spent some time clowning around earlier, and now I'm losing my oomph.

It doesn't look like all my books are going to fit on the shelves. And I didn't get that darned chest in the aquarium cabinet either. I'm sure it would fit, but I opened up the doors and see an entirely new project of aquarium supplies under there that have to be cleaned out and moved. I can't start another project like that until I get my desk cleaned off and my computer back online.

If you think it looks bad now, you should have seen what I started with!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 20, 2018, 05:01:23 PM
Blasted chest!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 20, 2018, 05:03:37 PM
It's a work-in-progress ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 20, 2018, 07:09:10 PM
Thats a lovely room Bird.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on January 20, 2018, 07:16:37 PM
You need a second bookcase, Bird.  ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 20, 2018, 08:59:07 PM
You can never have too many bookcases, unless they start to cover the windows.

At Sis's library they had some bookcases on rails, packed in tight, and they could be moved along to make  gaps when people needed to get to them.  Occasionally someone would get a bit squashed because someone else forgot to check before sliding them about.  Apparently it gave them about 40% more shelf space in the same floor area.

They moved with a winding handle, a bit like the ones used to wind up the awnings outside shops.  It was a fairly slow movement so no-one was likely to get injured.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 20, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
I only have one book shelf here but I intend to have an entire wall when I move. It has been suggested I should get rid of some of my books  :o :o

It won't happen
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 20, 2018, 09:38:35 PM
I have a flat pack bookcase still waiting to be assembled.  One of those tall narrow ones,to go between Dad's bookshelves and the radiator.  I'm losing a lot of wall space to those damned radiators.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 20, 2018, 11:05:10 PM
Did you have a different heating at the house mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 20, 2018, 11:43:09 PM
Bones, I could do with a drink. Been watching rather depressing videos on YouTube. Silly of me, I know, but too late now.

If you could just help me put those skeletons back in the closet (no worries, you can stay, you're my friend) that would be wonderful. And please, throw away the key so they stay locked up forever. I don't want them out here.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 21, 2018, 12:01:25 AM
Did you have a different heating at the house mate?

Damn right.  We had a coal/log fire in the living room, but didn't use it over the last few years. We screened off the fireplace to stop the cold wind blowing down the chimney, but could have re-opened it if we'd decided to.

Instead we had a calor gas space heater in the living room, with three different settings.  We rarely used the top setting.  It was designed for domestic use, not one of those dragon type things they use on building sites.

We also had paraffin heating, but had more or less stopped using that because the fumes brought on my asthma.  Mum had to give up her joss sticks for the same reason, though she sometimes burned one when I wasn't there.  The big paraffin heater came with us from the caravan and could run for thirty hours on a gallon of fuel as long as you kept the wick neatly trimmed for a good blue flame.

We had two small electric heaters upstairs, to use as and when needed, neither with exposed elements.  Neither of us liked a particularly warm bedroom, but sometimes my office got a bit cold when I was sat there with only my fingers moving on the keyboard.  but as often as not we had our bedroom windows part open at night, even in winter.

The bungalow has gas central heating with a radiator in every room, with two in the living room.  They're generally on the lowest setting, and the ones in the bathroom and kitchen are on the frost setting.

The heating comes on for two hours in the morning and sometimes I put it on for an extra hour in the evening.  Twice this winter I've had to give it an extra hour in the early afternoon, but they were ball-clenchingly cold days.

Oh yes, there's a little electric fan heater bolted high up on the bathroom wall.  I haven't looked at thre rating but it feels like a 2 kilowatt.  I ran it once to burn off any dust on the elements, and the smell suggested the previous occupant rarely used it either.  It's good to know it's there, just in case,  but running the shower warms the place up well enough to get dried and dressed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 21, 2018, 03:03:49 AM
We have electric heating here as a back up but natural gas is our form of warmth. Its so instant and its only on high to warm the house then it's turned down. Very efficient heating indeed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 21, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
Palm to forehead. My husband pointed out the obvious, Attachments and other options, below. Doh!

Wildflowers on the way to Iceberg Lake in Glacier NP, Montana.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 21, 2018, 12:11:17 PM
We used to have meadows with flowers like that.  Not so common these days.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 21, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
I'm awake again, so let's fire up some coffee. Leave the pot right here on the table.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 21, 2018, 01:32:27 PM
Good morning and see y'all later. I'm at 300. Yeah!


Bones, I'll buy a round for the house, meals too,


Have a great day Peeps.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 21, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
Awesome DG!

Bones, a mocha coffee with whipped cream on top.

I WILL get this office done today. I WILL get this office done today.......

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 21, 2018, 03:49:22 PM
I'll have a pint, Debs, thanks.

No food though, I'm still full of my Traveller Stew.  I used the family size slowcooker and made enough for two meals.

Think I'll try the smaller cooker next time, have a stab at cooking for one.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 21, 2018, 05:12:43 PM

Bones, Can I please have a bottle of Rioja, a large noggin of manchego and a dish of green olives and sun blushed tomatoes.

Also, I  think we should repay Deb for her generosity, so can you find me: a knobbly old potato, a handful of orange wool starched into the shape of a squirrel with leprosy, a very sharp needle, and the esteemed reference manual, The Dummies Guide to Voodoo. 

Bottoms up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Don on January 21, 2018, 05:33:46 PM
It's after twelve. Gin, please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 21, 2018, 08:34:07 PM
I am blessed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 21, 2018, 08:42:48 PM
Oh wow that looks smashing Bird, well done

Hi ya Don, you shouting?

Wow Mark that sounds just tickity boo but I've just eaten  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 21, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
Thanks FF!

It has been a lot of work over the last two weekends. But I couldn't help but feel a sense of good fortune while doing it. Especially as everything finally came together.

And feeling fortunate is not something that comes easy to me. I can always think of a reason to be sad or to feel regretful about things or to think I haven't done enough. So this has been a great exercise because I could tell I'm starting to view things differently these days. And that is good progress.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 21, 2018, 10:11:01 PM
There are not as many totally positive humans out there as we are led to believe mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 21, 2018, 10:39:47 PM
I suspect most of have our dark days, and probably quite a few 'just ticking over' days.

One of my old Hippy friends had a very complicated and painstakingly calculated bio-rythym chart pinned on her kitchen wall.  She swore that it allowed her to 'maximise' her good days.

But I got the feeling it was something of a self-fulfilling prophesy. Even if she woke up feeling as if she could push over mountains her morning glance at the chart dictated her mood.  If it had RATS written there in bright red marker any enthusiasm she was feeling escaped like air from a popped balloon.  As likely as not she'd drink her first cup of coffee and then either go back to bed or be utterly insufferable all day.

A quick look at the chart did at least warn her husband and children when to tread carefully around her ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 21, 2018, 11:25:06 PM
Bed before midnight again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 22, 2018, 12:06:18 AM
Seems like I just missed everyone. Never mind. Bones, a nightcap please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 22, 2018, 12:19:17 AM
I suspect most of have our dark days, and probably quite a few 'just ticking over' days.

One of my old Hippy friends had a very complicated and painstakingly calculated bio-rythym chart pinned on her kitchen wall.  She swore that it allowed her to 'maximise' her good days.

But I got the feeling it was something of a self-fulfilling prophesy. Even if she woke up feeling as if she could push over mountains her morning glance at the chart dictated her mood.  If it had RATS written there in bright red marker any enthusiasm she was feeling escaped like air from a popped balloon.  As likely as not she'd drink her first cup of coffee and then either go back to bed or be utterly insufferable all day.

A quick look at the chart did at least warn her husband and children when to tread carefully around her ;-)

Wow, what a way to live your life
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 22, 2018, 08:33:31 AM
She was a strange lady.  Likeable in many ways, and very helpful.  Full of good intentions.

But strange.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 22, 2018, 10:19:25 AM
I only have one book shelf here but I intend to have an entire wall when I move. It has been suggested I should get rid of some of my books  :o :o

It won't happen
What kind of crazy person would suggest such sacrilege to a writer?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 22, 2018, 10:36:00 AM
Just family. They are weirder then me
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 22, 2018, 11:45:02 AM
Good work Bird. Run with that uplifting feeling of, can do, will do. I love it when ambition begets ambition and things are accomplished. 

I've not felt that way for several weeks. Life was interrupted, then I twisted my knee, tried to get back on it too soon which made it worse, and everything came to a screeching halt since I don't have a chair for mobility.

Being laid up should make for the perfect chance to write and paint but the lack of exercise has put me into a brain fog and a funky mood. I was taking a rigorous five mile walk, half of that up a steep hill, every day to maintain my weight before I blew my knee out. I'm pretty sure I've gained ten pounds sitting on my arse. I don't want to weigh myself because it will depress me. Maybe another week. The swelling is almost gone.

Perhaps it's human nature to take good health for granted but I sure appreciate it now.


Bones, Can I please have a bottle of Rioja, a large noggin of manchego and a dish of green olives and sun blushed tomatoes.

Also, I  think we should repay Deb for her generosity, so can you find me: a knobbly old potato, a handful of orange wool starched into the shape of a squirrel with leprosy, a very sharp needle, and the esteemed reference manual, The Dummies Guide to Voodoo. 

Bottoms up.
What is a squirrel with leprosy shaped like?

We don't need Trump voodooing all over the white house. ;D


Did you know Trump is a self proclaimed genius?   I'm hoping for a stroke of genius.  :-X
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 22, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
Did you know Trump is a self proclaimed genius?   I'm hoping for a stroke of genius.  :-X

So was my uncle. All we ever saw of that was his eccentricity.  ;D

Bones, I could do with a nice strong cuppa.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 22, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
So the whole gym/CrosFit thing has been messing with me since my old place closed. I hate being old and weak, but there it is. I'm old and weak.

I've been so busy making sure that I don't embarrass myself with my oldness and my weakness, that I haven't been pushing myself to do the many things I really can do and going to the edge to get to the next phase with the things I can't do - yet or maybe even ever.

This isn't helping and I've been feeling disappointed in myself. So today, I tried to do the things I cannot yet do. I can't yet do the thing, but I was inching my way closer. I used the bigger weight, I got lower and lower on my overhead squat. I never quite broke parallel with the heaviest weight (which didn't seem to bother some of the other people there, but it is not a real rep) but I was closer with each try. I'm not disappointed in my effort today.

And my overhead squats with the lighter weights looked nice, broke parallel, I felt stable, I did the things.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 22, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
And there, for now at least, is a happy lady. 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 22, 2018, 03:53:38 PM
For now.  :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 22, 2018, 04:20:47 PM
One day at a time often works out quite well.  It's not just for alcoholics.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 22, 2018, 04:28:13 PM
So Trump has had a stroke of genius? I'd be happy if he just had a stroke.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 22, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
I'll drink to that Dan!

Bones, a Martini please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 22, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
Bones, a bowl of oatmeal. I'm feeling mushy today. And put Dan's martini on my tab.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 22, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Thanks Dan. Very kind of you.

I'm off now. Need to get me some supper.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 22, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
My slow cooker roast turned out wonderful. And now we have leftovers for days.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 22, 2018, 05:49:53 PM
Bones,
Get Patti something to go with her roast. Maybe a red wine.
Gimme a cup of coffee, hold the water.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 22, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
I also had some red wine cooking with the roast. Made very tasty gravy that way.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 22, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
I'll have a Martini and then it's off to bed. It's getting late here already and tomorrow's gonna be a busy day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 22, 2018, 11:36:33 PM
Good work Bird. Run with that uplifting feeling of, can do, will do. I love it when ambition begets ambition and things are accomplished. 


Thanks Deb! I did face work today with an amazingly peaceful feeling. I knew my office was home waiting for me. I knew that I had done it. Even Hubby told me he thought I did a good job with the furniture arrangement, and we seldom agree on anything like that. So it has been a refreshing accomplishment. Now the question is: What will I do in this revived office space? Will I write the next best book? Or, let's just go with the next 250 words for the challenge.  ;D

I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch. I understand how being immobile can impact your mood. Hubby has RA and his capabilities decline every couple of months. He is often very depressed because he can't do what his mind wants to do.

May you heal faster than ever before and get stronger and healthier every day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 22, 2018, 11:41:08 PM
Yeah.  It's a bugger when your 'can do' can't keep up with your 'want to', either temporarily or for good.

Chin up, Deb.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 22, 2018, 11:59:24 PM
I want to go to bed early tonight so I can get up early tomorrow morning and play before I have to go to work. But I need to figure out what I'm going to work on before I go to bed. Otherwise my time will get wasted away with reading emails and clicking on random things to read.

So what to do what to do what to do.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 23, 2018, 12:42:46 AM
Who's shout is it today and don't say mine, that just isn't right
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 23, 2018, 07:57:25 AM
I've not felt that way for several weeks. Life was interrupted, then I twisted my knee, tried to get back on it too soon which made it worse, and everything came to a screeching halt since I don't have a chair for mobility.

Somehow missed that. Sorry to hear about your knee Deb. I know what it's like being a prisoner of your own body and it's no fun at all. I was confined to the house for well over a year before I finally got my wheelchair, and I got so bloody grumpy.

Then, when I did get my wheelchair, I was quite ready to throw a party. I go everywhere now and can't imagine life without my wheels anymore.

Still, I hope you won't be needing a wheelchair. At least not for a long time yet. Being able to walk and run and climb is still far preferable. So take good care of yourself and that knee of yours.

Now, Bones, where's my morning cuppa?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 23, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
I could not stay awake last night. I was trying to fall asleep in my chair at 8. I fought it off, valiantly, until 9.30. I went to bed and fell asleep immediately. I have no idea what I did yesterday that wiped me out. But I slept like a log.

Now I'm ready for a new day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 23, 2018, 11:45:50 AM
Well I'm in tonight mode
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 23, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
Are you sleepy?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 23, 2018, 12:08:36 PM
Nah not yet
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 23, 2018, 12:30:36 PM
Hello ladies! Your next drink is on me.

Bones, I could do with another cuppa. And a sandwich, please. I'm starving. Nothing new there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 23, 2018, 12:47:59 PM
Hey Dan, ta mate.

Bedtime here me thinks
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 23, 2018, 12:58:38 PM
Nite FF!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 23, 2018, 10:09:56 PM
Bones, your special coffee today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 23, 2018, 10:36:08 PM
Morning all, how are we all today?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 23, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Hey, Fly. Cool and clear from the desert.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 23, 2018, 10:48:15 PM
Hi FF and Dan. It's close to midnight here so I'm off to bed soon, but I had a great day. Got new shoes. They're handmade orthopaedic shoes which gives me the luxury of telling the shoemaker exactly what I want, and he'll  make it for me. His shoes are true pieces of art.

After my visit to the shoemaker I visited my daughter and took her out to dinner. We had a wonderful time together. Father-daughter nights out are special.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 23, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
Handmade shoes? I thought that was a lost art. Must cost a fortune. You must not be completely wheelchair-bound, else you wouldn't walk enough to make that worthwhile. That sounds like good news.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 23, 2018, 11:09:14 PM
It's a nearly lost art. I think my shoemaker is the only one in my country that still does this. It takes some travelling to get there, but my daughter lives in the same town, which is pretty cool, because I can go see my daughter after my visit to the shoemaker.

The shoes are prohibitively expensive, but thankfully my health insurance covers most of the cost. I only have to pay €130 (if I remember correctly - haven't had the bill for tody's shoes yet) a pair, which is still a lot of money but the shoes are of great quality and I can only have a pair made once every 18 months anyway.

And yes, I can still walk. Not far and not very well, but just enough so I can get in and out of the train. And inside the house I try to walk as much as possible too, but if I walk only a little bit too much on any given day, I'll end up having to pay the price. The pain will be unbearable and pain medication - unfortunately - doesn't do much for me. (I haven't tried opiates yet, so I guess these might help, but I'm not willing to try them yet. I got some in my medicine cabinet, but so far one look at them would make me decide to tough it out just a little while longer.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 24, 2018, 04:29:03 PM
€130 is what the insurance doesn't pay? That sounds like the cost of orthopedic shoes off the rack here. Some larger shoe stores here in the States carry them.



Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 24, 2018, 05:09:03 PM
That's right. Insurance pays for the remaining €800 (or more). Like I said, these shoes are crazy expensive. But orthopaedic shoes off the rack (we'd call them semi-orthopaedic shoes here) wouldn't do the trick for me. My feet are quite seriously ruined.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 25, 2018, 12:13:51 AM
Evening all,

I could not hardly wake up this morning. When hubby opened the door, I would have paid hard-earned cash to be able to stay asleep for awhile longer. So I'm heading to bed early tonight. I like to get up around 4am to have about an hour of my own time before the rest of the day happens. This morning I missed it and couldn't get up until nearly 5:30.

Not sure what caused the sleepyhead syndrome, but I hope to cure it tonight.

Bones, free drinks on the house.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 25, 2018, 03:49:38 AM
Good work Bird. Run with that uplifting feeling of, can do, will do. I love it when ambition begets ambition and things are accomplished. 


Thanks Deb! I did face work today with an amazingly peaceful feeling. I knew my office was home waiting for me. I knew that I had done it. Even Hubby told me he thought I did a good job with the furniture arrangement, and we seldom agree on anything like that. So it has been a refreshing accomplishment. Now the question is: What will I do in this revived office space? Will I write the next best book? Or, let's just go with the next 250 words for the challenge.  ;D

I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch. I understand how being immobile can impact your mood. Hubby has RA and his capabilities decline every couple of months. He is often very depressed because he can't do what his mind wants to do.

May you heal faster than ever before and get stronger and healthier every day.
You're welcome and thank you. Unfortunately, my rough patch just got much more complicated. Got notice today the landlord is selling and wants us out  by March 31st.  :'(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on January 25, 2018, 03:54:41 AM
So Trump has had a stroke of genius? I'd be happy if he just had a stroke.

That's what I meant.  ;D

Did you know Trump is a self proclaimed genius?   I'm hoping for a stroke of genius.  :-X
We are terrible.

On another note, congratulations on the shoes. Usually any day with new shoes is a good day.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 25, 2018, 09:05:15 AM
Good morning all!

Bones, I could do with a nice cuppa.

Sorry to hear things are looking so grim for you right now Deb. I hope there's better times waiting for you just around the corner. Sounds like you could really do with some better times.

Just took my sweet and gorgeous Raphaela to the vet's this AM. I'm having her neutered. She's been in heat twice now. First time was hardly noticeable and only lasted two days. Second time was no fun for her, so I decided it had been enough. She'll be much happier without those hormones coursing through her veins and upsetting both her and my other cats.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on January 25, 2018, 10:05:10 AM
Been a hectic few days here, so haven't had a chance to pop in. I shall sit here by the fire, and let Bones catch me up on all the gossip.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 25, 2018, 12:10:03 PM
I got a phone call from my son last night and it disrupted my normal evening routine - in a nice way. It was great to catch up on his family and all that good stuff.

I was getting into bed when I realized I hadn't had my evening cup of coffee. I get three a day and I space them out so the caffeine level remains fairly constant. I'm that kind of addict.

But it was really too late to get a cup of coffee then and I was so tired (missing the caffeine as well as just tired) so I skipped it. I woke up with a headache. But on the bright side. No puking, it wasn't that bad.

So I've had my half cup of coffee pre-gym and my head is pounding much less.

Ahh, the good old days when I took migraine medication which actually had the extra boost of caffeine in it. I wish I had some of that around here, I would have taken one of those last night.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 25, 2018, 02:12:25 PM
Bones, I need a good brew. A strong one. And lots of biccies. And cake, and chocolate.

Just got my lovely Raphaela back home again. All went well, and she's unable to have offspring now. She also won't be a pain in her own arse or those of my other two cats when she goes into heat again, because she won't. That's a relief.

She's been waddling around the living room, and I remembered to turn on the heat a little, because the vet's instructions were to keep her in a warm, draught-free room. Thalia doesn't like that she smells like vet, so she decided to hiss and growl at her. Nothing new there. It will pass.

Mozart is happy to have his adoptive sister back. Raphi and him are BFFs and they don't like being separated from each other. But he doesn't understand why she's wobbling around the place like a little drunk and he wants to play with her. When he got too playful I decided to put him in the hallway for a while. And wouldn't you know it? Mozart on one side of the door, Raphi on the other, and both scratching the door and meowing. Demanding to be together.

I gave in. He's being sort-of-gentle with her. For now. His sort of gentle, which isn't very gentle at all, I'm afraid. I've had scratches, bruises and nosebleeds just because little Mr Mozart wanted to play. That's his kind of gentle. I adore him, and so does Raphaela, but gods! He should be gentle today.

And please, Raphi, quit jumping on the furniture. Your doctor said it's not allowed. Why won't you listen, you lovely little nuisance?

If I weren't grey already...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 25, 2018, 10:29:09 PM
Bones. Coffee. Strong.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 25, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
Bones, I'd like a nightcap please.

Hi Dan!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 25, 2018, 11:44:25 PM
Bones being a bit of a comic at times Dan probably now has a knitted night cap, probably with red and white stripes, like cartoon pictures of old time Dutchmen sat up in bed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on January 26, 2018, 12:40:48 AM
You're welcome and thank you. Unfortunately, my rough patch just got much more complicated. Got notice today the landlord is selling and wants us out  by March 31st.  :'(
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Oh crud. I'm sorry to hear more trouble. Life is full of difficulties, and unfortunately, sometimes they all happen at the same time. Hugs and positive thoughts coming your way. Hopefully this is a blessing in disguise and you will find a more perfect place to live than ever before!  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 26, 2018, 03:56:31 AM
"Mornin', Bones."

I'm not really here.  I woke up with a bad case of the fidgets at 3-30 so decided to get up, have toast and hot chocolate, and wait for sleep to come back.

Partly to be expected, I was in communication with my characters just before I went to bed and they're still rattling around in my mind.  I told them we'd talk more in the morning but they're like kids on a long journey, "Are we there yet?"

If it was Spring or summer I'd go out for a walk around.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 26, 2018, 07:59:17 AM
Bones being a bit of a comic at times Dan probably now has a knitted night cap, probably with red and white stripes, like cartoon pictures of old time Dutchmen sat up in bed.

You bet! I'll treasure it forever.

Bones, a tea please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 26, 2018, 12:15:09 PM
I woke up a full five minutes before the alarm went off. Dinner is in the slow cooker. I have coffee made. I'm ready for the day to start for real.

Today, at the gym, running is on the menu. I have my shirt that reads, "If you're running with me, be prepared to walk" all set out and ready to go.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on January 27, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
Coffee please, Bones.

I enjoy running, Spell. It's my thinking time.

So, why do you set the alarm now that you're retired?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 27, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
Any coffee-flavored oatmeal, Bones? I'm in the mood to try something new.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 27, 2018, 04:20:21 PM
It sounds disgusting.  Both are good in their own right, but...

I remember someone once served me chocolate porridge.  If you eat it with your eyes shut it tastes nice, it smells nice,  But with your eyes open it looks like a bowl of shite.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 27, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
Kinda runny, was it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 27, 2018, 05:37:21 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 27, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Interesting! Some person (unnamed) at a venue (not yet defined) allegedly unprompted and for reasons not yet established but possibly for services rendered, offers a gypsy a portion of chocolate porridge. The gypsy proceeds to eat it with his eyes closed. No information is given as to his state if dress, but one can assume this was not a lunch or dinner, so pyjamas seem likely.

Makes you wonder what went before and where he'd left his goat!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 27, 2018, 06:19:16 PM
Your curiosity will, despite all the vivid imagination running rampant on this forum. remain unsatisfied.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 27, 2018, 09:26:47 PM
Morning flies, Bones a coffee please.

Deb sorry to hear about your house mate  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 27, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
Coffee please, Bones.

I enjoy running, Spell. It's my thinking time.

So, why do you set the alarm now that you're retired?

I have no earthly idea.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 27, 2018, 11:20:25 PM
The only time I set an alarm now is when I need to be somewhere at a certain time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 27, 2018, 11:28:37 PM
There is really no place I ever have to be anymore.

I never make appointments that early, so even when there is someplace to be, I don't need an alarm to get there. I might set an alarm to remind myself to get in the car and get to where I need to be.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 28, 2018, 12:03:55 AM
It will keep your sleeping habits in better order Spell
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 28, 2018, 07:50:26 AM
The only time I set an alarm now is when I need to be somewhere at a certain time.

Same here. Even though I usually plan appointments around noon, or early in the afternoon, it often means I still have to leave the house early, because it takes hours to get there. And I have to feed my cats before I leave the house, and scoop the cat trays.

I'm not afraid of messing up my sleeping habits by not setting the alarm. My internal clock has been working just fine for decades and will continue to do so, I'm sure.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 28, 2018, 12:28:32 PM
I woke up early, sans alarm, and stayed in bed for another hour just because I could.

Now I'm fully awake and in need of coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 28, 2018, 03:10:06 PM
Another cup of that coffee oatmeal, Bones. Or oatmeal coffee, depending on your perspective.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on January 28, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
I'll have some of that coffee. Hold the oatmeal.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 28, 2018, 04:15:46 PM
I'll have some of that coffee. Hold the oatmeal.

Talk about making life hard for the poor sod. Now he has to make coffee while holding oatmeal! He gets precious little thanks as it is, now he has to do tricks as well!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 28, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
Just got back from a visit to my parents. I could do with some food now. That spinach risotto looks nice, Bones. Two plates should be just about enough.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 28, 2018, 06:34:46 PM
I'm famished, Bones. Just throw whatever everyone else is having in a blender and I'll take a cup of it.

And don't forget the oatmeal.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: biolaephesus on January 28, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
They said it was bar and grill yes? No seats like I am used to and please can I have some fresh palm wine? Might chase it down with some isi-ewu. Never heard that before? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. never mind, hello? helllo?wonder why everybody disappeared.
biola
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 28, 2018, 07:20:43 PM
So, what's isi-ewu, Biola?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 28, 2018, 07:27:53 PM
I was curious, too.

Isi ewu is a traditional Igbo dish that is made with a goat's head.

Not curious anymore.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on January 28, 2018, 07:31:51 PM
Not sure if I'd want to eat a goat's head.  :-\

Anyway, I just had risotto, so I'm good. I haven't had pudding yet, though, so I could do with an Irish Coffee now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 29, 2018, 12:05:57 AM
"Bones, a bottle to go if you'd be so kind.  I've had a busy day and now I'm off to bed."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: biolaephesus on January 29, 2018, 10:25:04 AM
 ;D ;D ;D D'Anuchan, how come you know about isi-ewu? Thanks though
biola
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 29, 2018, 11:18:32 AM
Another day, another coffee. Bones, you know ...

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on January 29, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
;D ;D ;D D'Anuchan, how come you know about isi-ewu? Thanks though
biola

I didn't before Wikipedia-ing it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on January 30, 2018, 12:41:22 AM
Internet searches do come in handy sometimes, don't they?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on January 30, 2018, 12:54:21 AM
Yes, I do them a lot watching telly, wondering what happened to this actor or that, its great
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 05:50:32 AM
Before the internet people were allowed to fade into obscurity as their careers declined.  Searching was a much more leisurely and quite often ink-stained business, involving leafing through stacks of ancient newspapers.

But even then there was the new kid on the block, this little upstart.

Left click to enlarge.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on January 30, 2018, 12:00:39 PM
I love the internet's constant ability to surprise. Although we can search for anything out there, we are now faced with the prospect of lies, damned lies, and different truths showing up in the search results.

And I need coffee. It's morning here. Early morning. Well, early enough. Coffee, please, I need coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 12:36:21 PM
What I don't love about the internet is Googe's algorithmic assumption I'm an illiterate, dyslexic, or mental defective.

If I enter, as an example, "Christina Jones" as my very specific search term I'm really not interested in Christian Johns, Christopher Jones, or even Christiana Jones.  As for all the other members of the Jones clan who turn up on the later pages, such as Zebedia Jones...

Sometimes it as useful as making a complex calculation by throwing a stone in a lake, counting the ripples, and declaring that the absolute answer.
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Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 30, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
Just put it in quotes to make it specific.  :)
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Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 01:04:14 PM
I do use quotes.
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Post by: Mark Hoffmann on January 30, 2018, 01:28:41 PM
That's weird then!

I just searched the name you mentioned and used quotes and the first 3 pages - I didn't check beyond that - contained nothing but references to her.
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Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 01:48:52 PM
I have to assume - although I prefer certainty - that I sometimes do make mistakes..  The old fingers do fumble occasionally.

So...  I did an experiment.  I typed the same search term 'Christina Jones' with single quotes, double quotes, a mixture of both, and with no quotes at all.  In each case it produced only Christina Jones.  The mystery deepens, but as a writer rather than a computer person I think I'll just cross myself - just in case - and pass quickly by on the other side.  "Ours not to reason why..."
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Post by: DAnuchan on January 30, 2018, 02:39:25 PM
That's okay, Gyppo. At your age, you're allowed to get confused.

By the way, has anyone seen my glasses. I'm pretty sure I was wearing them when I came in here the other day, and I haven't seen them since.
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 30, 2018, 03:00:03 PM
Did you look on top of your head? That's a good place to lose glasses.

Do you want to hear about stupid?

For five years I've been calculating my old age discount on workouts. Sometimes it is as much as half off, but usually only 20% off or around there. But I do not ever intentionally do MORE reps than the youngsters I'm there with.

Since I'm writing about this ...

I was hoping for my usual old age discount and knowing the other issues included in the workout, we came up with a plan that allowed me the five steps as written.

But I didn't get the numbers correct and so I ended up doing 60 cleans (15 of them squat cleans while no one else had to squat with the bar at all) instead of the mere 54 everyone else had to do. This is a record amount of dumbness all in one workout. I wasn't too much slower than everyone else. And I was under the time cap. So ... there is that.
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Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 03:58:35 PM
Many years back we once had a milkman who did a leaflet drop offering a 10% discount. Only for one month's bills, but a lot of people took him up on it.

When the bills arrived we were all charged 10% extra.

I took him to task over this and he finally accepted that it was a mistake and agreed to take off the extra 10%.  Which of course just dropped the bill to the normal price.  When I told him he also had to take of the discount he'd offered he got that 'deer in the headlamp' look and said he wasn't giving money away.

I wrote him a cheque for the correct amount and suggested he cash it pretty damn quick before I changed my mind, and that I wouldn't be paying any extra.  As an incentive I politely offered to stop having my milk delivered if he was still unhappy.

I saw him a few weeks later one morning and he gave me a sheepish grin.   "Sorry about that discount business.  I got confused.  I'm not that good with numbers."

"That's alright.  All sorted then?"

"Yeah."  Then with a beaming grin, "Tell you what though, most other customers just paid up, so I didn't lose out after all."
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 30, 2018, 04:40:03 PM
Most people do just pay because they are also not so good at numbers. Which is a damn shame. Public education was supposed to fix this stuff.
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Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 05:05:22 PM
I'm no mathematician, but percentages - discounts or surcharges - have always come fairly naturally to me.   Especially after we changed over to decimal money.  But I remember a lot of kids at school just couldn't get percentages. Or decimal.

If it gets complicated I'll scribble a few numbers on a scrap of paper, but for the easy ones the answer just pops up in my head.  (There must be a  mental ready-reckoner in their somewhere.)  Sometimes the answer pops up so easily that I doubt it and work it on paper to be sure.
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 30, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
I think it's all the practice in figuring out store prices after the "amazing 25% off" stuff.

My shrimp on the barbie was delicious. They were such good shrimp they nearly tasted like lobster.
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Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 08:07:52 PM
Q:  Why did Ken divorce Barbie?
A:  Because she always smells of shrimp.
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 30, 2018, 08:21:09 PM
I've had so much excitement today, I'm going to go color. That should be calming.
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Post by: Gyppo on January 30, 2018, 08:25:22 PM
First draw a creepy man and then put him through the shredder.  Or take him outside and burn him.  Then do some calming colouring.
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Post by: DAnuchan on January 30, 2018, 09:19:43 PM
First draw a creepy man and then put him through the shredder.  Or take him outside and burn him.  Then do some calming colouring.

I love that idea. I think I'll use that in a book some time.
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 31, 2018, 12:56:33 AM
I had tea. I colored. I had coffee. I am much calmer now.

And the consensus is I should have asked for help from anyone or everyone.
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Post by: Firefly on January 31, 2018, 01:11:46 AM
Morning Bones, can I grab that latte please mate
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 31, 2018, 01:35:09 AM
I am hoping for some Death by Chocolate cake with a nice dollop of mint chocolate chip ice cream on the side. Coffee with it would be nice, as well.
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Post by: DGSquared on January 31, 2018, 03:52:51 AM
Hi Everyone,


Patti, that's food porn.  ;D

     We're still looking for a place and living on high anxiety.

Thought I'd stop in and drop off a few links about the extraordinary phenomena happening tonight and in the early morning. I haven't heard a thing about the, Super-Blue-Blood-Moon Total Lunar Eclipse on the news. Only star gazing geeks like me will find that disappointing.


So, if you didn't already know, thought I'd pop in here and share some information about the Lunar Eclipse tonight, or this morning, depending on your location.  It's a Super-Blue-Blood-Moon. That's kind of a big deal to those of us who follow these things

General info on the significance of this event. It's been 152 years since this last happened. http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2018/01/the-moon-is-about-to-do-something-it.html#.WnE4Gq6nH4Y (http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2018/01/the-moon-is-about-to-do-something-it.html#.WnE4Gq6nH4Y)

For the USA: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/super-blue-blood-moon-coming-jan-31 (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/super-blue-blood-moon-coming-jan-31)

For everyone else:https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/911996/Eclipse-2018-What-time-lunar-eclipse-Super-Blue-moon-Blood-Moon-area-path-map (https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/911996/Eclipse-2018-What-time-lunar-eclipse-Super-Blue-moon-Blood-Moon-area-path-map)

Hope everyone is doing well. 

I'll be back soon. For now, I'm off to set up for pictures and Moon geek.

Take care,
~Deb
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Post by: Firefly on January 31, 2018, 10:58:46 AM
Been hot and sunny forever but tonight its cloudy,  no moon here
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Post by: Spell Chick on January 31, 2018, 12:56:59 PM
It's morning, the sun is out.

At night, in a suburban neighborhood full of watch and petty crime, there is so much light, you can't see any stars even on a clear night. That's sad. I stopped going out and looking up to see nothing.

I knew, but didn't go outside last night. I was in the full solar eclipse path and went outside for that and watched it rain in the darker day.

Astronomy is apparently not my friend.
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Post by: Dansinger on January 31, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
No eclipse visible here. :(

Bones, I need a drink. A Martini sounds good.
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Post by: Firefly on January 31, 2018, 09:14:56 PM
Its amazing how many stars are out when there is no light pollution. When we go walkabout, we star gaze a lot
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Post by: Gyppo on January 31, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
There's some lovely dark places in Cornwall with very little light pollution.  On a clear night the starlight alone is enough to see where you're walking, after a while for your eyes to adjust.

Well,it was.  Maybe not now with the beginning of cataracts, but back when I was forty.

Funny story.  The girl who nearly became the second Mrs Gyppo had problems with her eyes - yes, I know, it explains a lot - and had to wear tinted glasses outdoors.
 
No magnification, just a tint.  But for half an hour or so when dusk transitioned to darkness, when my eyes struggled for a while before adjusting again, she could see perfectly clearly along those clifftop paths through those smokey lenses.

When I started to stumble over grassy tussocks she'd just quietly take point for a while and lead me safely along.  Once it was properly dark again I could see better.
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Post by: Firefly on January 31, 2018, 10:58:18 PM
Maybe they were Polarised to a degree Gyp. Mine are and the clarity is amazing
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Post by: Gyppo on January 31, 2018, 11:50:42 PM
Some salmon poachers use polarised glasses to help them find the fish.  It lets them see through the surface glare, either sunlight or moonlight.

If you know fish and the particular river well enough you can usually predict where they're likely to be.  But getting a clear image helps if you're just planning to gaff them out or take them with a speargun.

Polaroids make it a little bit too easy for some people and they get greedy.  One for the pot is plenty.
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Post by: Laura on February 01, 2018, 12:18:07 AM
Have you heard about the glasses that correct color blindness?
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Post by: WordBird on February 01, 2018, 12:45:04 AM
I'm going to the eye doctor tomorrow as a matter of fact. It has been years, and I now have to tilt my head back to see everything through the readers at the bottom of my lenses. I'm hoping trifocals won't be required again this time.
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Post by: Gyppo on February 01, 2018, 12:48:55 AM
Billy Connolly used to tell a story about how he convinced his dad you could get 'prescription windscreens' for cars, so you didn't need to wear glasses.  Just a casual off the cuff joke his dad took seriously.

But as he said, can you imagine selling such a car secondhand to someone else who didn't need glasses.
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Post by: WordBird on February 01, 2018, 01:11:31 AM
Our greatest inventors of the world have probably considered a thousand crazy ideas like that before coming up with "the one." Great ideas tend to grow in the same fertile ground as crazy ones.

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Post by: Gyppo on February 01, 2018, 01:17:15 AM
Great ideas tend to grow in the same fertile ground as crazy ones.

Absolutely ;-)
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Post by: Firefly on February 01, 2018, 01:51:32 AM
I would relish a windscreen like that lol
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Post by: Jo Bannister on February 01, 2018, 08:54:13 AM
I always say my eyes were made on a Friday afternoon, when the elves were getting ready to knock off for the weekend.  There's almost everything wrong with them you can think of - but at least they're healthy.

I needed glasses from when I was about five, probably, although it took a little longer for the fact to be recognised.  So all my life that I can remember clearly, I've had these things stuck on my face.  Absolutely took them for granted.

Then I started having trouble reading.  "Presbyopia - old sight," said the optician.  "You need reading glasses."

So now I had two pairs of glasses.  One on my face, one getting lost.  Wait a minute, though...bifocals!  They worked fine for another ten years.

And then I started having trouble with my neck.  I was having to hold it in a fixed position to get the computer screen in focus at the bottom of the bi-focals.  "You definitely need reading glasses now."

So then I had distance glasses, bi-focals AND reading glasses.  At least I was taking more exercise, walking round looking for the right ones.

Now guess what?  My vision has changed again, so that I can read best by taking my glasses off altogether!  Not the computer, but a book or magazine I can hold a bit closer.

Lord knows what'll be next.  Maybe I'll end up holding my book on a selfie-stick.  Maybe I'll need one of those looking-round-corners periscopes so I can read it from the adjacent room.

Actually, cataracts are probably what's next.  So I'll have to decide what kind of focus to put in the replacement lenses.  Oh, the joy of growing old!
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Post by: Dansinger on February 01, 2018, 09:01:12 AM
Bones, A tea please. I'll be over there by the fire. Not feeling chatty right now. Need to wake up properly first.
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Post by: Gyppo on February 01, 2018, 10:52:21 AM
I have the beginnings of cataracts, but they say they're not bad enough to justify fixing them yet.  I'm happy to go along with that for now.  I've enough doctors prodding and poking at the moment.

But I saw the difference catarct removal and new plastic lenses made to Mum's eyesight , so when the time comes...  I'll probably be semi-bionic by the time I'm seventy.

I have reading glasses which I need for some proper books.  But for the computer and my Kindle I use a 14 point font and don't have to worry about glasses steaming up.   I was quite surprised how small the type looked when I picked up a proper paper book the other day.  Perfectly readable in daylight, but not artificial light.

I can manage to read tiny 2 point subscript if its black on white, but the fancy colours on some food packaging baffle me.    Interestingly enough my Sis, with broadly similar eyesight thanks to genetics, has trouble with any font with a serif.  I have trouble with the supposedly uncluttered sans serif fonts.  My eyes love Times New Roman.

I'll never understand people who peer - long term - at a computer screen instead of  adjusting the size to suit themselves.  Make the technology work for you.  For a quick fix just hold down [shift] and roll the scroll wheel on your mouse forwards a click or two.  Very handy when there's bits of tiny text tucked amongst otherwise perfectly readable stuff.  Then click it back again.
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Post by: Spell Chick on February 01, 2018, 11:42:04 AM
I got hit with a racquetball when in my twenties and had a traumatic cataract removed from my sinister (left) eye at 39. The difference was immediate and amazing. Colors were so much brighter. It had been like looking through tissue paper.

Now, I have a maturing cataract in my right eye, but we are waiting until I'm pretty much blind because removing the cataract will be tricky. I'm so nearsighted it makes a problem. My eyeball is greater than 25 mm in length. That means that I may suffer a detached retina post cataract surgery. Not during the surgery itself, which I thought was the problem, but forever more afterwards.

So I will not risk going blind before I'm actually blind. I've been wearing glasses or corrective lenses since I was nine. So I just keep wearing them.

I did get my bifocal prescription but into the full lens and then when I sat down at the computer, I switched glasses. And since I couldn't see shit when I stood back up, I would switch them again and so my extra glasses were always by the computer.

Since I've gotten older, the computer screen distance seems to have fixed itself and I can read the screen thru my regular lenses.

My implanted lens was perfect all those years ago, but my vision has changed in the 25 years since, so I need to have regular glasses, my bifocals for close reading, and the implant correcting vision all working together in order to see. Ain't science grand?
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Post by: WordBird on February 01, 2018, 12:09:54 PM
I always say my eyes were made on a Friday afternoon, when the elves were getting ready to knock off for the weekend.  There's almost everything wrong with them you can think of - but at least they're healthy.


HAHA. Jo, I've said for years I wonder if I was made during an experimental alphabetical order process: 

Elf 1: Blue eyes, Do we have any blue eyes?
Elf 2: No, no sir. All we have left is brown.
Elf 1: Brown eyes it is. Blonde hair, where is the blonde hair?
Elf 2: No, no sir. All we have left is brown.
Elf 1: Alright then. brown hair it is. There that should do it. Legs are next. Let's put some long legs here.
Elf 2: Uh, no sir. All we have left are short Legs.
Elf 1: Alright then. Give me the short legs, and let's move on to the torso. Boobs, Boobs, Boobs. Let's do Big Boobs.
Elf 2: Uh, no sir. We're all out of big boobs also, sir. We have flat or small, sir.
Elf 1: Well we can't very well go flat here, this chick doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell as it is. Give me the small ones.
whistles while he works

Elf 1: OK, so we're ready to finish off with the Brains.
Elf 2: We have plenty of those sir, almost overstocked.
Elf 1: Really? OK, let's load this one up on brains then. Might be her only hope. How did we end up with too many anyhow?
Elf 2: Last shift made all blue-eyed, blondes, sir, with long legs and big boobs....
 

No offense meant toward anyone out there. Just something I humor myself with when I try to buy trousers that don't drag the floor. Or when I put on a regular sized V-neck shirt and it inappropriately displays my belly button. 


 
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Post by: Dansinger on February 01, 2018, 01:28:25 PM
You made me laugh, WB.  :)

Green eyes here, and what used to be brown hair. Long legs, though I've no idea why since I'm mostly in that wheelchair anyway.  ;D

Loaded up on brains too, which I think is rather nice. Don't know where I'd be without them.
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Post by: Spell Chick on February 01, 2018, 05:24:35 PM
If you are a thin woman with long legs, all pants turn into Capris, even when they aren't supposed to be. I've spent my life trying to find jeans long enough. I gave up a few years ago and went with yoga pants all the time. Even they can be too short at times, but with the right socks, I can hide a multitude of sins.
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Post by: Jo Bannister on February 01, 2018, 07:25:02 PM
Now I understand, WB!  I knew elves were involved, I just never heard from them till now.
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Post by: Gyppo on February 01, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Just remembering.  Not Elves but...

One day at Mum's doctors I was people-watching.  You never know when you're going to find a character.
 
The doctors there come out and call the patients in by name.  A  much more civilsed arrangement than calling you via loudspeaker and, according to my own doctor - who wore one of those pedometers as an experiment -  he walks at least two miles a day doing this.
 
Out came one of the doctors and called in Mrs Werewolf.
 
As soon as she was safely behind the doctor's door I asked Mum if she'd heard what I heard.
 
"Well, it sounded like Werewolf."
 
I looked around and there were several other patients obviously replaying it in their own heads and nodding as they came to the same conclusion.   So, barring collective confusion, the woman was indeed Mrs Werewolf.  Despite not being excessively hairy or dentally prominent.
 
I've wondered since if it was a double barrelled name.  Ware-Wolf?  Wear-Wolfe?
 
Or something non-English sounding like Werrulf, which is probably more plausible than the double-barrelled name options.
 
I guess I'll never know.
 
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Post by: Spell Chick on February 01, 2018, 07:51:49 PM
Would have been fun to wave around some garlic upon her exit. Just for kicks.
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Post by: WordBird on February 01, 2018, 08:04:08 PM
Or Where Wolf?
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Post by: Dansinger on February 01, 2018, 08:34:38 PM
If you are a thin woman with long legs, all pants turn into Capris, even when they aren't supposed to be. I've spent my life trying to find jeans long enough. I gave up a few years ago and went with yoga pants all the time. Even they can be too short at times, but with the right socks, I can hide a multitude of sins.

So now you know why we have this blessing in the morning prayers: “Blessed are you O God, King of the Universe, Who has not made me a woman.”    ;)
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Post by: Spell Chick on February 02, 2018, 01:59:56 AM
One of my favorite prayers  :P :P :P

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Post by: Firefly on February 02, 2018, 07:07:35 AM
Afternoon bar flies.

All this eye talk, one thing that I am not good at watching, they freak me out.  :o
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Post by: Spell Chick on February 02, 2018, 11:38:45 AM
Dick watched via remote camera as I had my cataract removed. He said he was thinking it was just a recorded thing until he heard the doctor ask me how I was and my response that I was "Just peachy". Then he knew it was really me and my eyeball.
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Post by: WordBird on February 02, 2018, 11:57:57 AM
Morning All,

I would love to have that corrective laser surgery done on my eyes, but it freaks me out when I think about it. I saw a clip in some movie years ago where these aliens tied this guy down and drilled something through his eyeball. I couldn't watch anymore of the movie, and that image is burned in my mind. gadzooks.

I got my new glasses for $150. The only thing I wish I could've done was increased the width of the readers at the bottom of the lenses, but that was another $50-60. I told hubby I would try to not spend more than $120. And I was honestly shooting for lower than that. According to the insurance plan, I might have been able to get out of there for $30-50. But I need progressive lenses so I knew it would be a little more.

The vision insurance plan is the only good benefit I have at this new company. The medical insurance is one of those high-deductible plans, and they don't want to cover anything until it is paid in full.  I guess it is fine for all the young, healthy people. But for someone like hubby that needs regular medical care and prescriptions, not so much.

But anywho, better than nothing.

Bones, get me a pot of coffee brewing. I'm tired and firsty.
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Post by: Dansinger on February 02, 2018, 04:20:20 PM
One of my favorite prayers  :P :P :P

One of mine too.
 ;D ;D ;D

Bones, a Martini would be nice.
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Post by: Dansinger on February 02, 2018, 04:28:34 PM
I found this. It's a little over a year old, but still too funny.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/legally-i-can-kill-him-queen-confirms-20170131121313

:D
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Post by: Spell Chick on February 03, 2018, 11:32:45 AM
For some reason I didn't want to fall asleep last night no matter how late it got. It was ridiculous. I finally managed and stayed asleep for a few hours, waking up around 5 again, for no apparent reason.

It's going to be a long day. Coffee please. And keep it coming.
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Post by: WordBird on February 03, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
Morning All,

I've been off work for a couple of days already, and guess what? It's Saturday, only the beginning of my normal weekends off!  ;D  Feelings like this make the Bird very happy.

What to do, What to do. I think I shall play here in my office for a bit and work quietly.

Bones, I want some mocha coffee this morning. You know that stuff that comes with whipped cream on top. I don't want a little whipped cream drizzled in the shape of a leaf or something. I want a great big honkin' pile of whipped cream. Mt Ranier, like.  So when I try to get to the coffee, the cream ends up on my face.
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Post by: Gyppo on February 03, 2018, 02:16:32 PM
That was weird.  The lights flickered for a brief fraction of a second, the screen went black, and then I got the message telling me windows had unexpectedly shut down.

I can't remember the last time this happened.

Then my router started doing the dance of the 'reset' lights and I couldn't get on here for a couple of minutes.  It did the reset routine a couple of days ago, but the house lights were off and I was out of the room when Windows - presumably - restarted.

Maybe some crazy squirrel chewed through a wire.

I hope this is a short-lived problem.  I've grown used to not having to worry about my power supply

Updates:  It's just done it again.  Maybe squirrel number two came along to see what happened to his mate.

Squirrels three and four made brief appearances later in the day.  I phoned Sis, a few miles away and she was having the same nuisance.  This leads me to suspect a general problem, with the power people switching around to maintain supplies.

If it happened on a regular basis I would be looking for an UPS.  But, I really can't recall the last time it happened.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 03, 2018, 03:05:31 PM
The beauty of my laptop is that when the lights flicker, I may lose internet, but my computer just keeps working.

Perhaps you need a UPS (Uninterrupted Power Supply) to keep the machine from having to recycle.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on February 03, 2018, 03:48:46 PM
A few years ago my boss came to work to find a terrible roasted smell. It turned out a mouse had chewed through a wire in the wall and fried itself. Workmen had to tear apart the wall to get it out, and my boss had to use a different office for weeks until the smell dissipated.

Bones, coffee, hold the mouse.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 03, 2018, 06:38:34 PM
We had a rat eat the wires in the loft at the bakery and pitch us into darkness in the middle of the night.

The electrician, who also worked as an auto electrician, told us he often had to replace wiring on posh cars like BMWs where the new recyclable wiring had a soy-based covering, instead of old fashioned plastic or even rubber, and was more appealing to rodents.  He said BMW were working on ways to keep it recyclable but make it less palatable.

Highly entertaining to those of us who didn't live in the 'posh' end of the village.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 04, 2018, 06:26:11 AM
We often hit rodent plagues when we travel. They get under bonnets and chew the heck out of everything they can, bloody annoying little blighters
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 04, 2018, 12:49:03 PM
I read an article in the last year about how if cats were out of the picture, rodents would take over the earth in a matter of a few weeks. We need the cats to take care of the rats.

And the cheese stands alone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on February 04, 2018, 01:00:23 PM
A squirrel blew out our back in June.  We live back off the road in a rural area, and our line branches off the the main line up at the road. So we were the only ones affected. When he called and told them there was a loud pop, they told him no one else had called in.  Fortunately the workers were in between assignments and happened to be going through our area, so they went ahead and stopped on the way. They got it fixed and before any of them could bet on what caused it, the poor dead squirrel fell to the ground. I'm glad I didn't have to see it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 04, 2018, 01:14:14 PM
I propose we stop talking about dead vermin.

Bones, how about a Belgium waffle (which I'm not really sure is Belgium) topped with fresh strawberries and lots of sweetened whipped cream. Add four slices of crisply cooked thick bacon on the side. And of course, some coffee.

Thanks.
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Post by: WordBird on February 04, 2018, 01:19:27 PM
What should we change the subject to?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 04, 2018, 04:58:38 PM
What should we change the subject to?

Food of course. Nothing better than good food.

Bones, I'm starving. I'll have a vegetarian pasta with vegetables, basil, tomato sauce and Parmesan cheese. And a bottle of your best red wine to go with it. I'll be over there by the fire.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 04, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
We had salmon today for dinner. Baked with lemon and dill and some garlic because everything is better with garlic.

I would really like something chocolate now. Perhaps a fresh from the oven chocolate chip/walnut cookie.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 04, 2018, 06:16:57 PM
I really must make a cake soon.  Just to see if I still can.  But first I need to get the ingredients.  Over the last six months and more I've done plenty of cooking, but no baking.

The first one will be a basic 'pound cake' recipe baked in a loaf tin so it's easy to slice.  What some Northern English call a bar cake.  Many different kinds of cake can be made into bar cake.

I don't currently have a round cake tin, just a couple of shallow sponge pans.
 
I also fancy making a caraway cake, (seed cake), but that will be a small one in case I don't like it after all these years.  But I have some seeds sat doing nothing in the cupboard.

After that we'll look at marble cakes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 04, 2018, 06:21:56 PM
I wish I lived closer to your baking.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 04, 2018, 07:08:21 PM
I may find I've lost the touch.  Probably not, but that's why I'm going to start with something very basic again.

But I've bought a new measuring jug and dusted off my old scales ;-)

I gave up decorating cakes after Alma's Christening cake.  Old school decorating is a skill you do need to keep up, especially writing on cakes.  Without regular opportunities you lose the casual confidence which lets you write with easy flowing loops and lines.  Just like ordinary handwriting really.  It truly is a case of 'Use it or lose it'.

I kept Alma's cake simple because I didn't trust my hands to do anything too fancy.  It was the top tier of her Mum and Dad's wedding cake, carefully stored and then redecorated.  But it was well received.

A good heavy fruit cake will keep for years without drying out or going mouldy if properly stored.  They do get darker with age though.  A cake ten or more years old will look nearly black ;-)

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 04, 2018, 11:47:35 PM
"Bones, a pint of White Label in a proper Mug with a handle.  Plus a plate of crusty bread and a decent sized chunk of cheese.  I'll collapse into the corner over by the fire.  If I fall asleep just carefully ease the mug from my fingers and throw a blanket over me.  It's been a long day for a Sunday."

I found an old photo today and remembered the story which went with it.  A few years back I mentioned that I was going out that evening to the Art House cafe, described the place and wee Frogg, who was more commonly known as Insomnio then, said she she liked the sound of the place and wished she could visit.  It's a sort of hippy, musician, generally creative type hangout.  Lots of artwork hanging on the walls, much of it for sale.

I said I'd do the next best thing and take her 'in spirit'.  My Sis and the other guests at my Brother in Law's party seemed perfectly happy to accept that I had an 'invisible friend' with me ;-)  I introduced them to her as my guest and for the rest of the evening she had an empty seat to herself.  Seeing as she was a quiet little thing no-one gave her any hassle, and no-one was ill-mannered enough to forget and sit on her.  I think by the end of the evening some of them were definitely 'seeing' her.

Here's the moment when I shared some chocolate cake with her ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 05, 2018, 12:16:42 AM
Sticking with the food theme...

I'll leave this plate of marzipan fancies on the bar for anyone who like to try them.  About eight ounces in total.

Left click to make them go further.

Can't eat them myself, the food colourings send me loopy.

I'm off to bed.  "Goodnight."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 05, 2018, 08:21:43 AM
Marzipan fancies eh? Not what I'd expect from a poacher. From an authentic poacher I'd expect ... eggs.

Bones, Two poached eggs on sourdough toast, with a grilled tomato sprinkled with a bit of dried oregano.

I have to report a strange occurrence that can only be an omen of some sort: possible peace on Earth and good will to all men, or possible not. Yesterday at dusk as I was out locking up the hens, a snow white dove circled overhead and then settled on an upstairs windowsill. It stayed there all night and was happy for us to look at it from inside the house no more than 8 inches away.

At dawn I went out and offered it a handful of mixed corn but it just looked at me with contempt (hence my uncertainty abut the goodwill omen) then flew off.

I wonder what it signifies?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 05, 2018, 10:27:35 AM
Birdshit on the window sill first up then after that, I will leave it up to the knowledgeable  ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 05, 2018, 10:35:49 AM
Marzipan fancies eh? Not what I'd expect from a poacher. From an authentic poacher I'd expect ... eggs.

;-)  A man can have more than one trade in an interesting life.

I have to report a strange occurrence that can only be an omen of some sort: possible peace on Earth and good will to all men, or possible not. Yesterday at dusk as I was out locking up the hens, a snow white dove circled overhead and then settled on an upstairs windowsill. It stayed there all night and was happy for us to look at it from inside the house no more than 8 inches away.

At dawn I went out and offered it a handful of mixed corn but it just looked at me with contempt (hence my uncertainty abut the goodwill omen) then flew off.

I wonder what it signifies?

It was probably a very tame dove, comfortable around people, which got lost as dusk was falling.  So a house and a handy windowsill would have felt like a safe refuge.  Same applies if it was very tired.

I remember we often used get racing pigeons hanging around the caravan after a bad storm.  Dad would feed them and after twenty four hours or so they'd take off again.

I'll stick the rest of this story up in the Coffee table.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on February 05, 2018, 10:36:54 AM
Bones, I could do with a strong mug of coffee this morning. Help me wake up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 05, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
They tell me a new week is starting.

So let's go.

I guess.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 05, 2018, 06:11:01 PM
I've got home-made espresso gelato to share and I think it would go well with a bottle of Amaretto if anyone fancies a shot.

The dove is back for the second night.  I'm assuming she wants to live with us, so I've named her Myrtle and given her some mixed corn.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 05, 2018, 06:28:00 PM
You didn't set out any Amaretto for her?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 05, 2018, 06:45:35 PM
You didn't set out any Amaretto for her?

Don't be silly. She's on a first floor (american second floor) window ledge!!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 05, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
Myrtle sounds like a good name for a lonesome dove.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on February 05, 2018, 07:44:43 PM
What a coincidence! A bird (sparrow?) crashed into my window a few minutes ago. Maybe this one got in the amaretto.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 05, 2018, 08:07:00 PM
 Okay, I'm really laughing out loud here. Brilliant.

Bones, a round of Amaretto for any who want a nip.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 05, 2018, 10:21:25 PM
Conversation earlier ...

Amanda arrives home from work.

Mark: Great news! Myrtle's back.

Amanda: Who the hell is Myrtle?

Mark: The snow-white dove that was here yesterday: she's back. I've named her Myrtle.

Amanda: How do you know it is female?

Mark: She is very pretty. Must be female.

Zak: Woof.

Amanda: Are you sure you are not just saying she's female because she's lost?!

Mark looks hurt and wonders how anyone could think such a thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 06, 2018, 05:35:10 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 06, 2018, 06:45:18 AM
If her/his mate turns up how long do you reckon before Mark builds a dovecote?

My best mate's older brother used to breed fancy doves for a few years.  All sorts of colours and patterns.  Had a nice little business going

He had to keep them locked in a couple of days a week when his Mum put the laundry out.  Quite spectacular when he let them out afterwards for their evening flight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 06, 2018, 09:14:25 AM
They have the racing pigeons here in town and that's a similar sight, they do look great
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 06, 2018, 11:47:25 AM
It's morning and there are no birds around here right now. In a few weeks, they will be perched in the crepe myrtles, no relation to Mark's bird, and will be singing their little heads off, hoping for some happy time. Right now, there is nothing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 06, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
We have birds all year round. My fave are herons because, when in flight and viewed from a distance, they look like pterodactyls.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 06, 2018, 12:33:19 PM
Close up, especially when leaving the ground, they creak as they struggle to get up to proper flying speed.  I imagine pterodactyls did as well.

I discovered this one very early and misty morning when I crept up to a favourite fishing spot and found a Heron had beaten me to it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 06, 2018, 02:52:42 PM
We have blue herons here. And sandpipers and waterrats (seagulls) and a number of water birds. But they don't perch in my trees. At least I've never seen them there and I'm pretty sure the branches of a crepe myrtle wouldn't support a heron.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 07, 2018, 01:39:05 AM
Some mornings the kookaburras land on the antenna of the house two doors up for a rest. They chat and laugh then go again. They are my faves, the rest are OK most days
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 07, 2018, 12:22:30 PM
I'm doing laundry on my day off from the gym. This is as exciting as life gets for the retired.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 08, 2018, 12:31:00 AM
Ha ha, I am not envious. Still can't hang washing out yet but I will improve with time
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 08, 2018, 12:08:31 PM
And back to the gym today. Dinner is already in the slow cooker (pot roast). I'm ready for my massage this afternoon. My knee has been bothering me and I hope Jose can fix it, at least in part.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 08, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
Jose has a knee fix-it shop?

I'll drink to that. How about a coffee, Bones?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 08, 2018, 02:56:57 PM
Jose is my massage therapist.


Monday's foray into the gym was full of evidence that all my hard work does pay off. It was muscles and I have grown some.

Today ... it was cardio and no matter what I do or how hard I work, my heart will not comply. I stopped when I started to tingle all over (rather than when the cardiologist suggested I stop, but sorta listening to him in a sorta kinda way) and I still couldn't hit the same score I had three years ago. I got close, but still. my heart betrays me all the time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 08, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
I make picture/saying items because I like to do that. Some businesses make them to help promote their business.

Some business with the name Dope Intellect, something else after that, put up a picture with the idea that:

Be sure to throughly
enjoy the day
(With a picture of their very difficult to read logo on some coffee cups)

I believe they meant thoroughly enjoy the day.

The dope part of the intellect is strong.

Why don't people proofread their stuff? Why is throughly even a word? In one place it was not flagged as a misspelled word and in another place it is. What the hell would throughly be?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 08, 2018, 06:33:40 PM
Google says it is simply an alternative spelling.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 08, 2018, 07:35:32 PM
Yes, just like thru, I suppose.

A thorough search says different.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 08, 2018, 09:06:04 PM
Google says it is simply an alternative spelling.

That's why Google is your Fiend ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 09, 2018, 12:13:16 PM
I actually slept until the alarm went off. Now I'm groggy. I so prefer to wake up on my own. But I guess I was really tired.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 09, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
I woke naturally at 4am, its now 5.30am, grrr
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on February 09, 2018, 07:54:33 PM
5 am is the worst possible time to wake up.  It's too late to go back to sleep and too soon to get up.  I aim at 6.30, but anything after 6 is OK.  Just don't ask me to make much sense in the late evening.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 09, 2018, 09:26:13 PM
 ;D ;D

Yes I am a bit the same. Not really a morning person but you can only ceiling stare for so long ay
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 09, 2018, 10:00:19 PM
I was awake at 2.30 but I went to bed so early, I wasn't really sure I was going to be able to fall back to sleep. Boy did I. No alarm clock tomorrow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 10, 2018, 11:43:28 AM
We are doing on a chocolate garden walk at one of the fancy estate/plantations in the area today. We will get to walk thru the beautiful gardens and down by the river and around the gorgeous house and they will have chocolate treats as well. I think it sounds rather nice. It is supposed to be beautiful weather today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on February 10, 2018, 04:18:51 PM
Isn't that how the tour started in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 10, 2018, 08:40:40 PM
Sounds lovely Chick. We have a total fire ban day here today so be hot as hell all day and not worth poking ones nose out the door  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 10, 2018, 08:49:15 PM
Man, it's the opposite here. Been raining nearly 24 hours now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 10, 2018, 08:54:39 PM
Eeeek we could sure use some of that mate, dry as a nuns tit here for months now. We had storms but nothing much came of them
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 11, 2018, 02:10:02 AM
The place was beautiful and the chocolates were fun. The weather wasn't perfect but the rain held off. It was clouding up by the time we were ready to leave. Making leaving a bit more fun.

Lovely day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 11, 2018, 03:23:10 AM
Nice when it turns out a good day mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 11, 2018, 11:24:21 AM
And now it is the next day again. They just keep happening.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 12, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
My goal for the week at the gym: no weighted squats. I need to get this knee/leg problem fixed and I'm not doing it by overuse. If I can get three days without squats, I then have two weeks of no gym on the schedule. By the time I get back, my leg should be back to normal.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 13, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
Hello all! It's been a while since last I rolled in here, but I figured it was time to have my daily drink at the bar again today. Bones, a tea would be lovely. And some cake, please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 13, 2018, 11:26:19 AM
How's the healing going?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on February 13, 2018, 06:01:28 PM
Welcome back, Dan. The forum wasn't the same without you.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 13, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
Hi Patti! Hi Dan!

The healing is going well. Mind you, was sent to hospital last Sunday because I had a fever and was feeling "foggy". The fogginess turned out the be caused by the heat inside (my ex turned up the heating because I was so cold - which was the fever's doing, of course) As soon as I was outside the apartment, on the stretcher, breathing in cooler air, my head cleared. In the ambulance I was OK until it got warm in there and the fog returned. At the hospital, out of the ambulance, breathing in the cool night air, I was OK again, and my head remained clear inside the hospital where it wasn't quite as hot either.

They took my vitals, and most was fine, except my saturation which was still down to 94 so they gave me some extra oxygen. Got a nice line hooked up to my arm again and got both extra fluid and paracetamol dripped into me, and one of their vampires took some of my blood to check for sepsis. The blood test came back negative, so doc said it was probably just the flu and I was released.

Yesterday I was back at the hospital where I had my surgery (halfway across the country) and had my first post-op checkup. All was fine, and I'm allowed to shower again. Still have to wear the bloody compression vest for another three weeks 24/7, so my breathing will still be a bit of a struggle for the next coupe of weeks. It's can't be helped, I suppose.

Today was a good day. I was up and about all day and not too tired. Ate well too, which is nice for a change. I probably lost a few kilos over the last week, which is not a good thing.

So Bones, be a dear and give me some of that pudding over there, will you?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 13, 2018, 07:04:05 PM
I'm not really signing up for surgery just to lose some weight, but the idea of it is appealing. The factual thing, less so.

Glad you are doing well.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 13, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
LOL, Chick!

You could always consider liposuction, I suppose.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 13, 2018, 07:15:38 PM
THANK GOODNESS DAN CAN SHOWER AGAIN.

I mean, glad to hear you're on the mend, Dan. And glad you've got an appetite.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 13, 2018, 07:18:21 PM
Hi Laura! And yes, I smelt like an ape. (Just kidding. Washcloths work too.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on February 13, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
I noticed that clean fresh smell of someone ending a shower as soon as I logged into BWF.

Welcome back, Dan!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 14, 2018, 04:19:38 AM
Dan the Man is back. Well done mate, hope you get the results you are hoping for
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 14, 2018, 11:28:19 AM
Yesterday, bad knee and all, I got a new PR (Personal Record) on my snatch. This is my least favorite Olympic lift. I only a got a few more pounds overhead, but in a different light, it was a 5% increase over my last PR. And with my bad knee, although that wasn't really a factor, it was just a concern.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 14, 2018, 11:32:31 AM
Thanks Dan and FF. And well done, Chick!

Bones, I'm starving. A grilled cheese sandwich would be nice. And a cuppa.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 14, 2018, 06:13:48 PM
We are going to High Tea this afternoon for Valentine's Day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 14, 2018, 07:14:38 PM
Have fun  :-*

Dan what caused all your health problems to start with if you don't mind me asking mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 14, 2018, 08:18:15 PM
Faulty genes, FF. Not much you can really do about that except trying to manage the damage. So that's what we're doing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 14, 2018, 08:57:09 PM
Bloody genes, they all act up at some stage don't they.

Glad they can help you along a bit though Dan  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 14, 2018, 09:34:54 PM
After all the working out I do, I can't fit in my jeans at all anymore.

Oh, wait...
Genes. Well ... yeah.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 14, 2018, 09:35:36 PM
Do your genes make your bum look fat Spell?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 14, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
My squats make my bum look fantastic.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 15, 2018, 08:42:02 AM
Yeah, genes are funny little critters. At least mine aren't likely to make me fat. Ever. And they may have messed up my body, but most certainly not my mind.

Now, I'll have a nice cuppa Bones.

See that cake there? It's my birthday cake. You make sure everyone gets a nice piece of it, Bonesy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 15, 2018, 08:48:12 AM
Are we about to sing you happy birthday Dan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OsHNlsp3zw
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 15, 2018, 08:51:25 AM
Thanks FF! That's a nice one - and I hadn't even seen it before either, which makes it all the more special.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 15, 2018, 11:40:37 AM
Or as the French lady who worked with my uncle used to say...  (Provide your own french accent as you read this aloud.)

R P BERTZ DAY
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 15, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
Happy birthday to you and you are glad you are hearing that without me actually singing it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 15, 2018, 12:14:18 PM
Thanks, Gyp and Chick.

Loved the French accent. And Sis and Niece already sang for me, and they sing well. The ex brought cake and the plumber fixed a leaky drain in the kitchen. So I already had lots of fun today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 16, 2018, 12:46:48 AM
Nothing like a quick plumbing fix to make your day I say. They are usually there for disasters mate

Glad your day was well enjoyed
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 16, 2018, 07:35:55 AM
Morning FF.

Looks like I'm gonna have to have that plumber back again today. Repaired one thing, broke another. Gah! Good job I'm just renting. I won't be the one to pay those bills.

Bones, a tea please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 16, 2018, 07:56:05 AM
Frustrating mate, do the job once and do it properly
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 16, 2018, 09:58:05 AM
My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 16, 2018, 12:31:07 PM
I know a really good plumber. He lives in Cleveland, Ohio which might make it difficult ...

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 16, 2018, 12:58:42 PM
They sent a different guy today. Turns out the new leakage was in fact completely unrelated. Just a matter of "perfect" timing. :D
The problem has been fixed now.

I'll have a nice cuppa, Bones. And another slice of that pizza over there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 16, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
Counting down the minutes until liftoff - at least my butt off this chair.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 16, 2018, 08:38:31 PM
Enjoy the holiday Chick, this isn't Sistercation though is it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on February 17, 2018, 02:19:11 PM
We are missing one sister/one gnome. I Just invited myself out here and she let me come.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 18, 2018, 12:05:05 AM
Saturday was a most unusual day.

Not a solitary email has arrived.  Can't recall the last time this happened.

At about four in the afternoon I checked to make sure I wasn't offline.

Weekends can be quieter, but not this quiet ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on February 18, 2018, 02:29:03 AM
Yes it is an odd day when that happens. I got rid of a lot of mine over the years, don't send as many either
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Morning folks. It's past ten already over here, and I haven't even had breakfast yet.

Bones, a heart attack on a plate, please. And a nice strong cuppa.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 18, 2018, 09:32:26 AM
Bones, do me a favour and send Gyppo an email. Just so he knows he's not died and gone to the other place.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 18, 2018, 12:21:10 PM
I'm still alive.  I checked.  Did the pee test.  (Based on an old Scots riddle.)

Q:  What is the difference between a rich Scotsman, a poor Scotsman, and a dead Scotsman.

A:  A rich Scotsman has a canopy over his bed, a poor Scotsman has a can o' pee under his bed, and a dead Scotsman cannae pee at all.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 20, 2018, 10:01:15 AM
I've set the next poetry challenge. It is the easiest challenge you will ever see and is specifically targeting novices poetry writers and prose writers. Best of all it takes just 15 minutes to complete.

A round of drinks to get your juices flowing. Drink up then head over to here: https://bestwritingforum.com/index.php/topic,350.0.html
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 20, 2018, 11:31:17 PM
I'm going to be in bed before midnight if I'm not careful.

Another of those days of little things which add up to quite a bit getting done.  Am I finally learning to tackle life in bite-sized portions?  Probably not ;-)

"Bones, a bottle to go if you'd be so kind."

[Ambles off into the darkness, filled with goodwill to all men - and women -  provided they don't jump out and try to mug him.]
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 21, 2018, 01:10:31 AM
I'm not in a mugging mood, myself.

I'll have an Elderberry Cocktail, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 21, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
Glad to hear it.  A stressed encounter with Ms Havoc is something I'm happy to avoid.

I reached my bed safely last night, despite an arduous 'commute' of around eighteen feet in total.  Such an epic trek compared to the fourteen inch sideways 'slide and collapse' from chair to bed in the old house ;-)

I will eventually have a day-bed of some sort in my office, but not yet.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 22, 2018, 02:24:16 AM
My trek is shorter, but full of obstacles. With 4 senior pets - two cats, two dogs, there are always big, lumpy bodies laying about. I have to step lightly.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on February 22, 2018, 02:16:44 PM
'lo.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 22, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Hi TO.

Bones, a tea please. And a sandwich. I'm starving.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on February 22, 2018, 03:13:34 PM
Yo Dan, s'up?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 22, 2018, 03:31:57 PM
Not much, Ollie. My new cleaning lady is annoying. She's afraid of cats, for chrissakes!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 22, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
My goodness. I don't think I've ever met anyone who was afraid of cats. Annoyed by them, yes, but not scared.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 23, 2018, 01:10:57 AM
Mum was.  There wasn't much which automatically frightened her, but cats made her panic.  She was allergic to them, which may explain it, but...

it used to amuse my Gran no end.

"That girl woks with bloody great cart horses which weigh half a ton or more, yet she's terrified of even a little kitten."

Some of her worst nightmares involved cats.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: herron on February 23, 2018, 05:12:25 AM
I'm allergic to cats, but my son has a Ragdoll...a giant, docile cat breed, with blue eyes. Nice cat...so I sneeze.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 23, 2018, 07:36:23 AM
My nephew is allergic to cats, and yet he loves them. So he comes to visit us and gets teary eyed and sneezes.

Ragdolls are gorgeous! I have one Maine Coon mix and two Norwegian Forest Cats. Big cats, but sweet and real social animals. They follow me around the house all the time, and when I come back home after I've been away (even if just for a couple of minutes) they'll be waiting for me by the front door and jump on my lap before I can even take off my coat.

Bones, a tea please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on February 23, 2018, 05:56:59 PM
I hate cats. They're like those people who treat others with disdain until they get annoyed about something and then become complete monsters.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 23, 2018, 06:31:22 PM
I love other peoples' cats but don't wan't to own one myself.

It would be nice if the bar had one though.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on February 23, 2018, 07:18:29 PM
I love other peoples' cats but don't wan't to own one myself.

It would be nice if the bar had one though.

Here, Kitty-kitty-kitty!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on February 23, 2018, 07:28:11 PM
Don't tell Ollie that I put a sardine in his anorak pocket.

Tonight feels like a Grappa night. Who's in?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on February 23, 2018, 07:48:53 PM
Sadly, no alcohol for me until I've fully recovered from my surgery. I'll have a tea instead.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mister URL on February 24, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
Speaking of cats, it is unspeakably funny when someone surreptitiously puts a cucumber beside a cat. When the cat sees it, it (the cat, not the cucumber) jumps straight into the air. I have heard it speculated that the cat thinks it is a snake, which shows great wisdom by the cat.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 24, 2018, 11:05:12 PM
My uncle's cat, Thomas, called so because he was Tom, used to love cucumber.  If they put down the shopping and weren't quick enough he'd rip open the plastic bag and drag the cucumber out onto the floor.  Then he would sit and gaze soulfully at them until someone cut him a slice.

He was strange cat who didn't greatly care for most cat foods, but he loved vegetables.  Definitely a healthy beast though.  Perhaps he hunted wild food when he was outside.

He had a bad tooth one time and they were planning to take him to the vet, but he pulled it himself.  He bit hard into his paw and shook his head around until the tooth came out.  He couldn't get it out of his paw so he came up to my uncle and did the whole Androcles and the Lion routine, waving his paw around until Unc realised there was something stuck in it.    He thought he might get scratched when he tried to pull it out because it took several attempts, but Thomas just sat there and let him fumble away until he got a decent grip and removed it.

A  very private cat except when he wanted to be friendly.  A natural fit with a family like ours ;-)

The first time I met him he walked around me a couple of times, checking me out, then gathered himself as if he was about to jump on my lap.  I shook my head and he gave me a reproachful look, then nodded as if to say "fair enough, you're like the rest of this family", and slunk off to sit hopefully under the breakfast table.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on February 24, 2018, 11:37:02 PM
Bed before midnight again tonight.

I have definitely spent a bit too long at the keyboard today.  Got lots of stuff done and things sorted out, but...  My eyes are feeling tired and my bum is numb.

Did some other stuff around the house today as well.

Still haven't got my new office blind up though.  Picked up the electric drill and the battery was flat.

Maybe tomorrow...

Goodnight for now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 02, 2018, 01:29:44 AM
Sweet dreams, Mr. G.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 02, 2018, 01:54:57 AM
Must be your shout Laura, where have you been?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 02, 2018, 08:02:40 AM
Helloooo! Anybody there?

Ah, Bones. Seems like it's just the two of us right now. How about a nice cuppa, eh?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 02, 2018, 09:36:53 AM
[Shakes off the snow from his ex-postie coat, hangs it by the door and ambles across to the bar.]

"Morning, Bones.  Morning, Dan.  it is a bit quiet in here, all I saw outside was Dan's wheel tracks and they're filling up again."

[Checks in the mini-hammock under the bar on the off-chance that little Insomnio is in there fast asleep, but there's nothing but gathering cobwebs.  Ah well...]

"Mega breakfast please, Bones."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 02, 2018, 09:45:02 AM
Did you PM Frogg and tell her of the exodus mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 02, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
Hey Gyp, I'll join you for that mega breakfast. Sounds good to me.

Hi FF.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 02, 2018, 10:10:59 AM
Did you PM Frogg and tell her of the exodus mate?

Yes, a couple of times, but if she's offline she'll not see it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 02, 2018, 10:41:43 AM
Hi Dan  ;D

I've snagged a few in the last few weeks, I keep a keen eye  ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 02, 2018, 11:02:22 AM
I see they've not accepted your resignation as a mod over there yet.  But they're looking for new ones.

Poor lonely Jameela is doing her lone ranger bit still, but without the sixgun and the silver bullets.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 02, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
I left that building. If I wanted a ghost town, I'd make one up myself.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 02, 2018, 01:21:15 PM
I go there occasionally, keeping under the radar, mining old stuff from way back.   If you ignore the last few months it's worth it to find ancient treasures.  But there are a lot of ghosts there as well so I keep moving and don't let them get a grip on me..
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 02, 2018, 06:22:19 PM
The ghosts are the only reason I visit now and again.  :-\
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 02, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
They're generally good company, just don't spend too long with them.  Because, for the survivors, the party ain't over yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2v3wpfQwhI
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 03, 2018, 02:45:52 AM
Yeah I hang in there for the ghosts but it does get you down at times mate. Its the only connection to our long gone mates
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 03, 2018, 12:44:54 PM
I'm trying to get back to my regularly scheduled life. My sister kept me so busy, I had enough social interaction for at least a month of Sundays.

All of her friends seemed very substantial and not imaginary at all. They spoke and were animated and interacted appropriately. Who knew?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 04, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
Morning Bones. All alone in here, eh? That's fine by me. I need a strong cuppa. Will be over there by the fire. It's gonna be a rough day today. Twenty-two years ago today my second daughter was born. I wonder what she'd look like today, if she were still with us.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 04, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
It does sound like a rough day in store for you, Dansinger. That cuppa is on me.  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 04, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Thanks Laura. Been doing a lot of housework today, to keep myself from getting too much into my head. So far it's been working.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 04, 2018, 06:34:56 PM
I knew getting into a tin can and flying around rebreathing stale air was a dangerous thing. I appear to have contracted the creeping crud.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 06, 2018, 02:58:22 AM
Oh no, be careful it doesn't manifest into man flu, you may be not long for the world.

Bones, hit her with a man flu busting hot toddy, Laura's shout
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 06, 2018, 09:07:17 AM
Chick won't be getting the man flu. No woman ever does. Not to my knowledge. You ladies don't know how lucky you are!  :P

Bones, I need a full English breakfast. I'm starving here.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 06, 2018, 09:41:03 AM
Oh we know what you men are like. He may have slipped some into her morning coffee. Man flu sufferers want the world to know what its like no don't they
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 06, 2018, 11:01:43 AM
Scientists have now proven that man flu is a thing, and what's more, the suffering is worse than childbirth.

Just saying.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 06, 2018, 11:27:35 AM
There!

Scientists have now proven that man flu is a thing, and what's more, the suffering is worse than childbirth.

Just saying.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 06, 2018, 11:57:55 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 06, 2018, 12:02:51 PM
'Man flu' was created by pharmaceutical companies so they could encourage infected people - of either gender - to go into work under the fond illusion they were 'indispensable' and thus infect all their workmates as well.   Thus selling even more 'flu-strength' medicines.

In the old days if you were really ill you stayed at home, which meant some of the self employed just soldiered on anyway, suffering away from the public gaze.  Far more civilised all round.

QUOTE:  If your business can't function without you then you don't own a business, you are the business ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 06, 2018, 11:16:43 PM
I had to cancel my massage for Thursday. I just couldn't see making poor Jose get sick, too. I hope to be better by next week. I'm really Jonesing to go to the gym, but then I stand up and realize it's not yet time for that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 07, 2018, 02:22:30 AM
Oh my Lordy me your Gypness, since when has a male with man flu soldiered on, indispensable or not?  ;D ;D ;D

Mine rolls on the lounge, won't go into bed as no one can see the theatrics from there and moans or is it a wail?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 07, 2018, 02:36:34 AM
Hello everyone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 07, 2018, 06:27:46 AM
Hey Noz, how's things?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 07, 2018, 12:04:24 PM
Oh my Lordy me your Gypness, since when has a male with man flu soldiered on, indispensable or not?  ;D ;D ;D

I'm just saying that's the premise on which the medication is sold.

But...  Royal Mail was plagued with such hardy souls  and the managers almost had to drive them from the premises with whips to avoid half the staff ending up ill.  This is what happened when you had some staff working 100 hours a week and having debts which reflected the huge pay packets which accompany sixty hours overtime a week.  Some people accumulate a cash buffer, others just live up to and beyond their income.

I could also point out the time I ran two miles through the snow to work at the bakery with a temperature of 106 F and worked stripped to the waist in a freezing cold veg preparation shed.  But after all this time it sounds unbelievable, even though I know it was a stone cold fact.

But the 'wuss generation' won't believe it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 07, 2018, 12:14:16 PM
Wow, Gyppo. You are made of tough stuff. We may have to make you an honorary woman.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 07, 2018, 01:00:26 PM
I suspect a lot of it is just down to pure luck with genetics.  I got a good mix, and several good examples within the family.  Plus plain bloody-mindedness.  It usually takes me three days to even accept that I'm ill, and by then a lot of bugs are on the way out ;-)

Dizziness can throw me though.  I'm generally not so good at coping with a swirly head.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 07, 2018, 02:09:02 PM
I feel pretty damn good sitting down and then I stand up and the swirls hit. But if I don't start walking immediately, that settles a bit, too. And then I can carry on.

I can't wait for Dick to get this. He's been golfing the last three days and sends me texts asking how I am and then telling me to get better and he loves me. Then I have to try to make it to the kitchen to get something to eat or drink. I would have gladly killed for a soothing cough drop the other day. But there was no way to get any.

I plan to text him so the dings wake him up, and then ignore him so he can fend for himself. I hope he appreciates all my love and concern, just like I've so totally appreciated all he's done for me in this trying time. This is the sickest I've been in about ten years. I still sound like a frog croaking when I talk. But at least I'm not audibly wheezing when I breathe now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 07, 2018, 03:59:19 PM
since when has a male with man flu soldiered on, indispensable or not?  ;D ;D ;D

I do. Usually. Though I have to admit, when I was hit by the flu three weeks ago (not even a full week after my surgery) the ex had a doctor come see me. She came, saw, and ordered an ambulance ride to hospital for me. Fun times. I was pretty much unconscious at the time, which may have had something to do with it.

But other than that, I just go about doing what needs to be done. Flu alone is no reason to lie in bed and get your sheets all stinky.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 07, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
I suspect a lot of it is just down to pure luck with genetics.  I got a good mix, and several good examples within the family.  Plus plain bloody-mindedness.  It usually takes me three days to even accept that I'm ill, and by then a lot of bugs are on the way out ;-)

Dizziness can throw me though.  I'm generally not so good at coping with a swirly head.

Haha! Same here Gyp. Including the dizziness, which I'm well acquainted with, seeing my blood pressure has always been a bit on the low side. Heavens help me if I wake up in the middle of the night needing to take a leak really badly, as I can't just get up and go to the bathroom immediately. I have to take it easy, or I'll only fall back in the pillows.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Frogg on March 08, 2018, 11:05:13 PM
Hallo old friends.

"Bones, a glass of merlot if you would. A round on the house 'cause I've been away for so long and I have a funny feeling I owe a lot of people a drink."

I've been in hospital in and out for the past two years but am well on the road to recovery now so let's raise a glass to that.

Gyppo kindly sent me the link to this site and I hope it will be just as magical as MWC was.

"To new beginnings."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 08, 2018, 11:43:51 PM
Welcome back/here. It's good to see you and glad to hear you are doing well.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 09, 2018, 12:27:03 AM
I'll gladly take that drink from an old friend and offer one in return.

Bones brought your little hammock across from the old place.  In truth is was in both places for a while, which bends the laws of physics.  But what's new about that in a writer's world?

Left click to make a little more commodious.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 09, 2018, 12:49:48 AM
It's great to see you, Frogg! You've been missed.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Frogg on March 09, 2018, 12:53:04 AM
Thanks folks. That hammock may well come in handy later, glad it survived.

How are we all this eve?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 09, 2018, 07:25:27 AM
Hey lovely, missed your face, nice to have you back  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 09, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
Hello Frogg. Hospitals are no fun. Good to hear you're recovering.

Bones, I'm starving. A full English breakfast would definitely hit the spot.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 09, 2018, 09:22:23 AM
"Morning, All."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 09, 2018, 10:41:16 AM
Howdy doody your Gypness
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 09, 2018, 12:01:32 PM
And it is coffee time again here. Well, any time is coffee time for me, but it is morning here and the proper time for coffee. So, if you wouldn't mind Bones? Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 09, 2018, 12:23:22 PM
I met some lovely people at the hospital yesterday during my pre-op assessment.  I dare say one or two of them may be re-created as characters later, although as we all know 'no character bears any resemblance to any person either living or dead'.

So if I ever create an anaesthetist who look like a wild-haired rangy fellow from a gypsy camp, apart from his blue scrubs  and stethoscope, you can guess where he came from.  Come to think of it every anaesthetist I've ever met looked a bit wild.  It's a peculiar trade when you stop to think about it.  A lot of responsibility.

He went through all the usual stuff I could expect, including that I'll probably wake up with a puffy face because I'll be unconscious for a couple of hours with the table tilted so my head is lower than my feet.  'So all the blood will tend to move to your head, so you might want to warn any visitors you're likely to have.'

He then went on to say "There are several other rarely seen and very unusual bad side effects which I can tell you about if you want to know, but that's entirely up to you."  He was my last visit of the day and I suspect by then word of the curious 'writer fellow' who was taking mental notes of the staff as they were of him had spread.

I said I'd be technically fascinated to hear or read about them afterwards, but I didn't want to know before the op.  He, and the little trainee nurse who had been shadowing me though all the various parts of pre-op laughed at that.

I don't think I've ever answered so many questions about my health, or medical, or family history before.

When I hear people complain about how they are treated by the NHS I sometimes wonder if I live in an alternative universe, staffed only by pleasant mannered staff.

My Sis reckons it's because I treat them as human beings and not servants.  It may well be that simple.  Life often is, under the complications we choose to add.

After the first port of call my little 'shadow' asked my permission to follow me through all the steps and I was happy to agree.  I predict she'll do well, she was very switched on and observant.  A very calm aura too.  I've noticed over the years that the best nurses never look hurried, even when they are.  The swan effect, calm on the surface, even if they're paddling like hell underneath.

Gyppo



Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 09, 2018, 01:09:40 PM
Funny, about your anaesthetist, Gyppo. The ones I've met - all women - looked rather sophisticated. And yes, they do want to know everything about your own and your familie's medical history. The more they know, the better they can assess the risks.

Like you, I rarely meet unpleasant medical staffers. Of course, I'm not in the UK, so things might be different here, but I think we can safely assume our medical care system has to deal with similar issues as medical care on your side of the pond.

Treat doctors and nurses as people, and they will most likely treat you the same. It's a no-brainer.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 09, 2018, 01:27:36 PM
But, like a lot of no-brainers, some people don't get it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 09, 2018, 02:09:19 PM
I sincerely hope none of my patients ever knew how rushed I was. There was a clock ticking and they tracked how long it took us to turn over from one case to the next.

And my patient interview preop was just as important as the other bazillion people who had already asked the same questions. I was just last in line and they were scared and sick of it all, just wanting it over. And yet, by listening to what wasn't said, I often heard more than the higher echelons before me. I remember two very distinct times when patients told me things that completely altered what happened next. And all because I listened carefully.

I've had patients scream at me and patients hold on to my hand with a death grip and some try to let me know how good they were doing and some throw up on my shoes. That's what happens after 20+ years. It all happens.

Gyp, I hope you get a nurse who is just as good as I was.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 09, 2018, 11:29:28 PM
Quiet on the forum tonight.  I may well be in bed before midnight.  But I think I'll leave the computer turned on in case I wake up early with a case of the fidgets.

So goodnight for now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 10, 2018, 01:13:58 PM
Here, too. Nice, strong coffee this morning.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 10, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
Morning foreigners.

I hit the pit early last night too, slept like a log for about 3 hours  :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 10, 2018, 10:39:44 PM
Nite FF! Gonna go find my bed. If I'm lucky I'll make it there before midnight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 10, 2018, 10:43:36 PM
Sleep well Dan

Now to see what mischief I can get into. The halls are quiet, might find a stray card under the bar and get Bones to rustle me up some breakfast
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 10, 2018, 11:44:51 PM
I would really appreciate some cherry pie. Homemade stuff with a decent crust. Why don't store made pies have decent crusts? What is so difficult about making pie crust? Or is the storage the problem?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 11, 2018, 02:51:20 AM
I'm a slice kinda gal myself. I will eat a pie if that is all that the fridge offers but a nice slice always ticks the boxes for me
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 11, 2018, 07:27:23 AM
I would really appreciate some cherry pie. Homemade stuff with a decent crust. Why don't store made pies have decent crusts? What is so difficult about making pie crust? Or is the storage the problem?

It's all about reducing baking time, so as to increase the through-put of commercial large scale production.  If they can shave a minute or two off each batch they can make a hell of a lot more pies in every twenty four hours.   They also save money on heating the ovens.

On a pie production line every saving helps.  On a small scale you make products up to a standard.  On large scale you make everything down to a price, whilst trying to maintain an 'acceptable' quality.

Pies with a slightly softer (more malleable) crust can stand quite a bit more handling in packaging and transit without bits breaking off and making them look decidedly secondhand.  Customers don't like to buy 'damaged' pies.  So if you can make them cheaper, and more durable you're onto a winner.  Plus the fact the customers come to accept the softer stuff as 'normal' and then grumble if the pies are even slightly 'high baked'.

The fact than properly baked pies taste better and have less tendency to go mouldy inside is conveniently overlooked.  After all, you want 'consumers' to eat the damned things, not keep them in the pantry for several days.  And you can always add a 'mould inhibitor' to the fruit to delay the onset of the green furry bits.  (This is where it starts to veer away from baking into science, and many an old school baker such as myself starts to feel uneasy about the whole modern business.).

Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 11, 2018, 08:32:29 AM
That makes a lot of sense Gyp.

I'm more than happy to bake my own goodies. Not only do they taste better, but I also get the satisfaction of having made it myself. And I have control of what goes into my food.

Breakfast time, and I still have some homemade biscuits.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 11, 2018, 12:08:38 PM
I knew it had to be economics on some level. And I figured storage/handling on another. What I don't understand is why we settle for it. Ah, maybe because we are lazy. At least, I am lazy.

And in need of coffee. Bones, if you would. Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 11, 2018, 12:52:38 PM
Okay, I'm up and the coffee is on. Who stole that hour while I slept? Daylight savings time. When will the madness end?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 11, 2018, 01:04:24 PM
When will the madness end?

Never.  They may change it for a different madness one day, but it will still be mad.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 11, 2018, 02:31:20 PM
I don't mind a little chaos, but I need my beauty sleep!  ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 11, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
Yeah, cats sleep like 20 hours a day and stuff.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 11, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Yeah, cats sleep like 20 hours a day and stuff.

Mine sure don't. 18. Maybe.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 11, 2018, 11:14:16 PM
We go back to normal time at the end of this month. I would like to not have my time fiddled with so much.

1st of April, we are in total darkness at 5pm, its redonkulous
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 14, 2018, 11:06:48 AM
I'm used to the time change here now. I don't have any excuse for being so crabby. It's just me. More coffee helps.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 14, 2018, 11:08:08 AM
I guess when you have kids at school and all their activities it throws you, well throws me
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 14, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
I'll be cranky until fall.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 14, 2018, 11:30:03 AM
I have kids and they didn't bother me at all with the time change. Of course, they are 43 and 39 and live far away from me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Heidi52 on March 14, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
Why can't we just decide on a time and keep it there.

It's been shown to be unhealthy to disrupt the circadian rhythm for people of any age, and I doubt anyone has ever been able to prove an outweighing benefit.

Can we please call it a failed experiment and get rid of it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 14, 2018, 08:02:20 PM
Heidi you know they would never use that F word mate, not the powers that be.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 14, 2018, 10:52:09 PM
There is some talk of some sensible things. Arizona doesn't change times so my sister is once again three hours difference instead of two.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 15, 2018, 02:47:05 AM
One of the states here doesn't do it either. Can't remember which now
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 16, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
Heidi you know they would never use that F word mate, not the powers that be.

I had to read back to see which f word you meant.  ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 16, 2018, 11:17:26 AM
hahhahah


me, too
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Post by: Gyppo on March 16, 2018, 11:29:13 AM
Failure is not a four letter, but some people act as if it is ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Frogg on March 16, 2018, 02:05:01 PM
Afternoon folks.

"Bones, a chai tea with soya milk if you would."

Beautiful day today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 16, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
Hello Frogg!

A chai tea sounds good to me, only I prefer mine with real milk.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Frogg on March 16, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Hallo.

I don't mind normal milk in normal tea but with chai I'm just fussy, as Bones here has been muttering under his breath for the last five minutes... ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 16, 2018, 02:31:26 PM
Bones should keep his gob shut and just serve you.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 16, 2018, 02:49:34 PM
And I would just as soon have a coffee. With real milk. And a slab of chocolate layer cake.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 16, 2018, 02:58:18 PM
Chocolate layer cake you say? I'll have some of that too, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 16, 2018, 03:06:30 PM
I must make some more cake soon, now I know I'll be at home to eat it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 17, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
I'm making Chelsea Buns today. It's tempting to be lazy and just get some off Bones. But, the virtual ones don't taste as good as mine do.  :)



Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 17, 2018, 11:02:13 AM
I'm making corned beef and cabbage today. Same reason.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 17, 2018, 07:06:51 PM
Does anyone want to try (virtually) my no virtual Chelsea buns?
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Post by: Heidi52 on March 17, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
Looks yummy, force one thru the computer will you?

Why are they called chelsea buns?
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Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 17, 2018, 08:40:54 PM
My partner is always asking me why things are called what they are  :) Chelsea buns are Chelsea buns like Danish pastry is Danish pastry (except in Denmark where it is Vianese pastry.)

Anyway, they are as good as pain au raisin but about 1/3rd the effort to make.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on March 18, 2018, 09:01:06 AM
Bones, I'll have a mug of your strongest coffee, please. And is there any of that chocolate cake left?
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Post by: Amie on March 18, 2018, 09:02:13 AM
Mark, that is a particularly beautiful Chelsea bun.
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Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 18, 2018, 09:21:45 AM
Mark, that is a particularly beautiful Chelsea bun.

I bet you say that to all the boys  :)

I made 8 and they were an odd assortment to be honest - probably because I'd not made them for a while. I use about 50% more fruit than a typical recipe and that makes slicing the roll into pieces a bit tricky.

I obviously picked the best one for the picture.   8)

The weather is arctic here with snow and 30 knot winds. So it may well be another baking day. I have a very well hydrated sourdough on it's second prove and I'll be baking it using the method in FF's vid. I might also make a batch of oatcakes for the freezer.

For now ... coffee.

For Heidi:
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The Chelsea bun is a type of currant bun that was first created in the 18th century at the Bun House in Chelsea, an establishment favoured by Hanoverian royalty ...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on March 18, 2018, 09:54:43 AM
I've just made a very beautiful "hedgehog" sourdough (I snip the top all around with scissor tips and sprinkle with linseeds and it looks vaguely like a hedgehog)

I'd post a pic, but I can never work out how to size them so they'll upload.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 18, 2018, 10:17:31 AM
Lovin your buns Mark. I'll have to try all these, I didn't get the chance this weekend.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 18, 2018, 10:23:32 AM
I've just made a very beautiful "hedgehog" sourdough (I snip the top all around with scissor tips and sprinkle with linseeds and it looks vaguely like a hedgehog)

I'd post a pic, but I can never work out how to size them so they'll upload.

I'm looking forward to seeing that. Do you go as far as currants for eyes?  :)

Re the pics - I use the GIMP (free and very good) to scale to 800x600 then export as jpg. That gets the file small enough to upload.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 18, 2018, 11:05:46 AM
Part of my Office Suite of crap has a picture manager that lets me resize, but I'm going to try Gimp, just because I want to have a more open source thing to recommend.

That and I love new toys.

Coffee, please, Bones. It's early morning here.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 18, 2018, 11:06:27 AM
Mark, if you've still got more, I'd love one of your Chelsea buns.

Oh, and Bones, do me a nice big strong cuppa, will you?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 18, 2018, 01:10:45 PM
Help yourself, Dan. I've put a tray of them in the snug, on the table next to the bookcase that hides the entrance to the secret passage leading down to the dungeon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on March 18, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
Mark,
Are we supposed to know which of your bookcases hides the secret passage to the dungeon? Does that count as a request for one of your buns?

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 18, 2018, 04:35:09 PM
Mark, re the cutting of the Chelsea Bun roll.

Either use a very sharp knife. which is repeatedly wetted so the water acts as a lubricant.

Or...  seeing as that will definitely cut more of the currants and cut currants can leave purple/brown stains on the buns,(which isn't that bad unless it's excessive), then try this counter-intuitive suggestion.

We used to chop them with a relatively blunt table scraper, one of those things some people use for chopping veg might be a good option if it isn't too sharp.  The logic behind this is that if the dough part is soft enough the blunter scraper will displace some the currants rather than cut through them.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 18, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Gyppo

Thanks for the tip. I use a plastic dough scraper. It's not a bad solution I just need to take care rather than rush it.

DAn

Follow your nose :)

Mark
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 18, 2018, 11:15:48 PM
I've just made a very beautiful "hedgehog" sourdough (I snip the top all around with scissor tips and sprinkle with linseeds and it looks vaguely like a hedgehog)

I'd post a pic, but I can never work out how to size them so they'll upload.

Here's a white bread hedgehog I made a while back.  Unfortunately he touched another loaf in the oven so ended up with one soft side.  We used to make hedgehog rolls with wholemeal dough, dampened and rolled in cracked wheat to get the 'prickle' effect.  Lots of shops just made them round but we rolled them into a hedgehog shape.

If you're making a really fancy loaf try using a bit of stick liquorice for the eyes and nose.  Squidged currants tend to bulge and pop out, ruining the effect.

Left click to enlarge.

 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 19, 2018, 12:30:54 AM
My baking skills end with cookies.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: herron on March 19, 2018, 01:19:49 AM
My baking skills are nonexistent...but I can eat chocolate very well (and quickly).
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 19, 2018, 06:31:44 AM
Bones, latte thanks and some of those breads, be it buns or loaves, I am not fussy  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 19, 2018, 08:20:42 AM
Gyppo

Do you have to do anything to get the spikes to stay up? Use a firm dough for example?

Mark
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Post by: Gyppo on March 19, 2018, 02:07:31 PM
Gyppo

Do you have to do anything to get the spikes to stay up? Use a firm dough for example?

Mark

It's a reasonably firm dough, but not excessively so.  If it's too soft you get a 'road casualty' hedgehog.  They don't look the same if they're too flat.  It's a subjective judgement though anyway.  A smooth dough definitely helps if it's white bread.  With wholemeal or wheatmeal you just work with what you've got.  Any dough which will stand up for a cottage loaf or bloomer rather than a needing a tin to support it during baking will do.

If you were making a loaf for show rather than eating you could make a dough which was virtually 'dead' and the shapes and edges would be more definite.  There are dead dough recipes available online for modelling bread.  This is how most bakers make fancy wheatsheaves and other harvest festival breads because they can be very time consuming.  No matter how fast you snip the ears on a wheat sheaf some of them will over-prove compared to the others on a really large loaf and make it look lopsided.   The spikes on the ears are made by cutting with scissors. just like the Hedgie's spines.

I like to think that any fancy loaf I make is eatable.  It's a deep gut-level feeling that deliberately wasting food is wrong.

Back to the hedgehog specifically...  Once he's shaped up and on the tray slap on a coat of eggwash, two if you really want to,  and get cutting.  The spines will naturally curl up a bit because of the tension in the dough.  If you cut them too big their weight can flop them back down again.  Like a theatrical backdrop painting or cartoon the aim is to create a broad 'impression' rather than a precise image.

Then let it prove to the desired size before baking.  The nose and eyes are best pressed in partway through proof, or they'll pop out. Sometimes they benefit from a little extra press in just before baking because it's the initial 'jump' of the dough in the heat which kicks them out.

Once it starts to bake the thinner tips of the spines will harden off quite quickly and definitely lock into place.  If they start to definitely blacken before the rest of the loaf is ready you can always lay a sheet of baking parchment over the top for the rest of the time.  Otherwise it's just like any other loaf.

If you decide to make a fancy 'dead dough' loaf for show you can varnish the damned thing afterwards and drag them out of the cupboard every harvest festival until they finally get broken.  You can even paint a roll with Hammerite and use it for an office paperweight ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 20, 2018, 06:48:02 AM
"Good Morning."

Up with the lark, well, probably before the little bugger to be honest.  Morning 'before food' pills taken and plenty to drink.

Food will be later.

"Bones, here's a modest wad of notes to stick behind the bar and provide a drink and or breakfast for the next half dozen or so folks to wander in.

Currently sat here with my 'overnight' catheter bag resting in my dressing gown pocket.  A bit like having a battery pack in your Cammo jacket pocket when lamping rabbits ;-)  A bizarre mixed image there....

This could become the latest status symbol for the high-powered poser who 'doesn't even have time to piss'.  A monogrammed twenty ounce coffee mug  paired with a Gucci pee-bag.  Colour co-ordinated of course.

I'm joking, but with the right marketing...

Gyppo 

When I was on the ward there was a universal warning chorus of "Don't forget your handbag' whenever we saw someone starting to get out of bed ;-).
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 20, 2018, 08:51:13 AM
Morning G.

Bones, I'll have an expresso, then when you get time, some fried bread made from green olive ciabatta, with roasted cherry tomatoes and two poached eggs.

Larks. Are they renowned for being up early? The only larks I see are skylarks and they are usually larking around making a hell of a racket.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 20, 2018, 10:22:20 AM
Morning. I could kill for a good cuppa, Bones.

Been busy this morning. Went to the market to buy cheese, eggs and veggies. Got home, scooped the cat trays, and when that was done, I went downstairs to my bike shed, to have a good look at my old wheelchair, which needs new tires and some minor repairs. My daughter wants it to replace her folding wheelchair. Gonna have to make a phone call to the bike mechanic and make an appointment. I hate making phone calls.

And now I'm hungry too. Bones, a heart attack on a plate, please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 20, 2018, 11:08:55 AM
Pre workout right now, so Bones, how about a protein shake of some sort? Maybe add some banana and cherries to a vanilla base. That would be great.


Thanks, Gyp
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 20, 2018, 11:13:39 AM
Larks. Are they renowned for being up early? The only larks I see are skylarks and they are usually larking around making a hell of a racket.

Traditionally, yes.  I remember laying on the grass on the Hampshire Downs and watching the skylarks climb, and climb, and climb until sometimes you couldn't even see them any more.  Then, as you said, they make one hell of a racket.  In the days before motorway noise it was a glorious sound.

Then they'd plummet like a stone, with one or two stops, like a diver making decompression stops but in reverse.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on March 20, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Bones fire up a big breakfast for Pigs and I  8)

Been a rough couple days. Pigs got sick early Sunday morning,I was sick that afternoon, which meant I had to take him outside every 45 minutes from 4 am till noon :P.yesterday he seemed better after I gave him a bowl of raw eggs and bread...

I'm thinking it may have been a moldy slice of bread :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 20, 2018, 09:38:14 PM
Oh no Frank, poor old Pigs, he is such a good boy  :'(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on March 20, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
Hey lil glo :)

Things seemed to have settled down enough, sites looking great - Thanks to all who help.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 20, 2018, 09:48:27 PM
Hey you, lovely to see your face again mate.

Must be your shout  ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on March 20, 2018, 10:01:32 PM
the first lesson Alice taught me was to never bring my card out while in the presence of certain individuals :P

But I'll buy you a drink :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on March 20, 2018, 10:07:29 PM
Mark - I use a 60% hydration dough, and my spikes stay up no problem.

It seemed like I had to develop a "feel" for the dough. And a few provings. And political inthe oven not too late after the last stretching/reshaping. I was surprised by how much it will rise after the final stretching and shaping, but you need to let it rise a couple times first, probably at least tripling in size each time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 20, 2018, 10:27:57 PM
It seemed like I had to develop a "feel" for the dough.

Like all manual skills ;-)  The processing of data goes on in your brain, without conscious thought after a while, but the hands are the sensors.  It's something which only comes with experience, and as such it can't really be taught, just experienced.

To quote our Scots Head Baker.  "You'll be sick of this by the time you get really confident, and fast enough to be truly useful, Little John.  But after that you'll have a skill for life."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 20, 2018, 10:31:36 PM
Like when you read the instructions for handling a wet dough and it says handle lightly. Ten seconds later you are covered in gloop from your fingertips to your elbows. Ten years later you wonder what all the fuss was about.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 20, 2018, 10:59:44 PM
Exactly.  I remember watching a new girl at work struggle with a shortbread mix which to me was perfect to work with.  She wanted something more like Plasticene.  A ten minute job took thirty and when she went to transfer biscuits from the bench to the trays they broke or stretched.  The poor lass was nearly in tears, but she had sticking power.  Something which shows early if it's there.  Some swear, some go quiet.  They all process learning in their own way and if possible you let them just get on with it.

When teaching an apprentice the real trick is knowing when to intervene.  You don't need to treat them as an extra pair of hands, an extension of your own  body.  You only directly intervene when something is obviously wrong and then you teach them how to fix it.

Three weeks later all we had to say was "Make up a triple batch of shortbread, you'll need to use the middle sized mixer, and make half of it in sheets for cutting and the rest for biscuits."

If she'd been with us for more than a 'summer job' we could have 'made a real hand' of her.

It was an education for me too, (teaching usually is), to realise that someone from a 'privileged' background was willing to work so hard to learn something new.  She was the (non-working) owner's cousin and arrived with a definite attitude towards 'ordinary people', but Tradesmen have a tendency to see themselves as being outside any perceived class system whatever our background.

She called me a bastard more than a few times under her breath, but by the end of her summer break from University we understood each other.  I've not thought about her for years, but I bet she's done well in whatever path she finally took.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 21, 2018, 12:46:34 AM
the first lesson Alice taught me was to never bring my card out while in the presence of certain individuals :P

But I'll buy you a drink :)

Yep, Alice was subtle when it came to revealing Ma's shortcomings wasn't she  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 21, 2018, 10:49:41 AM
Talent: Eating

Not a talent: cooking
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 21, 2018, 10:28:52 PM
I have no real skills but I can cook but also eat. So I guess that is two talents
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 21, 2018, 11:06:10 PM
I can also whine pretty much anywhere and any time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 21, 2018, 11:33:04 PM
I'm pretty good at sleeping. Not rubbing it in, FF.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 23, 2018, 10:36:58 AM
Bones, I awoke at 4.30 and couldn't get back to sleep. But I'm not really awake, either. A nice huge pot of coffee might help.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 23, 2018, 07:27:18 PM
I may wander in for coffee this morning but I would rather sleep in
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 23, 2018, 09:08:21 PM
Not working boring.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: herron on March 23, 2018, 09:14:58 PM
Two fingers of a nice single malt would help, Bones. Up, if you please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 23, 2018, 10:53:49 PM
I could go for some key lime pie. I know it has no chocolate, but sometimes I just like to throw a spanner in the works, something we say over here even tho we use wrenches.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 23, 2018, 11:26:35 PM
Key lime with a chocolate shell, yummo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 24, 2018, 10:42:43 AM
Good Morning All,

Dammit Fly, I thought you were on a holiday cruise.  ;D ;D

I've been busy. I'm tired of working for the man. And I know you guys are probably tired of hearing me whine about it. But I think I've finally got it. I have carved out a niche so narrow that I just know it will work. It has taken years to get here.

Every day I'm grateful that I'm just enough uncomfortable to keep trying to do something better, but I'm comfortable enough to not have to jump out of the pan into the flames. This job I have makes me enough income to pay the bills, and it is relatively easy work aside from forcing myself to get along with my boss and that blabbermouth I work next to. But I work my 40 and leave for the weekend. Don't even have to bring my work home.

So every morning I've been getting up early and plugging away slowly at what I think might be something worth doing.

Bones, I'm still a little sleepy this morning. Can you give me a mocha coffee with a shot of espresso? I want a kick-start!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 24, 2018, 10:49:58 AM
Morning again. How does this happen day after day?

There are so many jobs I loved and coworkers I didn't that I could fill a book ....

My last coworker got fired within months of my retirement because I was no longer there to rein her in. My boss asked me later what I had been doing while we worked together and I told the truth. If anyone had asked me, I would have been happy to tell them what was going on, but they were happy with the way the office ran while I was running it, so they didn't.

But now I'm retired and have only Dick to boss around. He loves that. hahahahahaha
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 24, 2018, 10:55:22 AM
Morning Chic,

You have earned the right to boss your Dick around!  HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 24, 2018, 11:02:44 AM
Morning, Wordbird.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 24, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
Birds the word, so you were sucked in my child  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 24, 2018, 11:25:50 AM
Morning Gyppo, FF,

I cannot believe it is already nearing the end of March. How does time seemingly fly by so fast?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 24, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
I got so used to not being able to cook this week, what with the house in such disarray, I forgot to take anything out of the freezer for dinner today. I guess we are having popsicles.

Or else I have to go to the grocery store.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 24, 2018, 11:45:05 AM
I'm going to sit by the bar fire and toast some crumpets with a long fork.  There are other forks available if anyone cares to join me.

Bones even has a carefully stored jar of little Frogg's home-made gooseberry jam in the pantry if anyone fancies a smear of that.  I've checked and it hasn't gone furry.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 24, 2018, 04:27:30 PM
Good afternoon! Quiet in here.

Bones, are there any crumpets left? And a cuppa would be nice.

Also, here's a jar of muesli biscuits, fresh from the oven. I'll leave that on the bar.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 24, 2018, 05:24:37 PM
We were going out to look for something to hand the now beautifully painted bare wall. And the garage door wouldn't go down. The wire thing that does something wonderful has fallen off the spool and is wound around the bar up there. It makes the garage door not work. So we aren't going anywhere. We are waiting for the mechanic guy from the garage door installers to show up. And we have the checkbook at the ready because I'm sure this is going to cost us.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 24, 2018, 05:52:42 PM
QUOTE:  'We were going out to look for something to hand the now beautifully painted bare wall'.

It looks as if the wire from the spool isn't the only thing which is running off-track ;-)

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on March 24, 2018, 06:42:21 PM
 ;D  ;D  ;D

Just finished supper. Leftover frittata,  petit pain, garlic herb butter and a glass of mulled wine, made from a cheap red wine that I was given as a birthday present and didn't want to throw out. I couldn't in good conscience pour it down the drain, so I decided to make mulled wine.

I've got quite some mulled wine left over, so feel free to take some. I can't drink all of it alone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 24, 2018, 11:21:41 PM
Well, the garage door fixer guy showed up and fixed the dang thing. It cost us the service charge, but the thing itself has a lifetime warranty and so all the parts and service was covered. That was good.

So we decided to really go out to find something to hand/hang on the walls. Dick wasn't looking right anymore and began to pull out because the car should have driven past us already. I started yelling, "He's turning, he's turning" and Dick slammed on the brakes fast enough to not T bone the guy.

I often get yelled at for "back seat" driving even tho I am usually in the passenger seat. But this time, Dick was visibly shaken and claimed the guy didn't have a turn signal on, but that's how *I* knew he was turning. Perhaps he turned it on later or something. All I know for sure is we avoided a wreck which would have cost a lot more than the garage door.

And we found something to hand/hang on the wall. But at the second place we looked, not the first.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 25, 2018, 12:30:19 AM
Is March over yet?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 25, 2018, 03:44:56 AM
Close call Patti, another time your whining paid for itself mate  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 25, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
It is a finely honed skill.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 25, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
Glad to hear you're honing your skills.

Coffee?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 25, 2018, 03:51:25 PM
Coffee is also a skill.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 25, 2018, 05:58:14 PM
If you are shouting I'm drinking.

Bones is 4am too early for a heart starter?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 27, 2018, 01:12:09 AM
Last week of March, baby!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 27, 2018, 01:56:37 AM
Yup its gone quick again
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 27, 2018, 11:23:06 AM
I didn't wake up at midnight last night. Only because I was still awake at midnight last night. I think I got 4.5 hours of uninterrupted sleep.

Bones, coffee. Please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on March 27, 2018, 12:15:22 PM
Maybe you should just go back to bed, Spell.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 27, 2018, 09:36:13 PM
Had a busy day so far. Now I need to stay awake so that perhaps I can sleep tonight. Perhaps.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 28, 2018, 01:58:44 AM
Four more days.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 28, 2018, 04:25:47 AM
I'm awake but it is 2.30 pm

What's everyone doing for Easter this year?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on March 28, 2018, 07:26:56 AM
Mainly avoiding the great un-washed who, on any public holiday, take to the roads in an attempt to create the world's worst traffic jam.

On Good Friday we have to venture out in the evening as we are going to the theatre to see The Importance of Being Earnest.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 28, 2018, 12:49:16 PM
I saw that in Dublin. I think it might have made it even more delightful.

I need some coffee because I always need coffee. Thanks, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on March 28, 2018, 05:10:36 PM
March here's going out like a lion.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 28, 2018, 07:00:02 PM
It's the most hectic holiday of the year I think, traffic and cranky people wise. I baracade myself in and ring for Pizza  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 29, 2018, 03:59:21 AM
I cut it close tonight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 29, 2018, 09:36:42 AM
Mornin' FF!  ;D

Started my day with a good laugh. Think I'm might buy hubby a new hat today. >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 29, 2018, 10:00:15 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

Not shoes?

Must be your shout girl, long time no see. What's been happening?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 29, 2018, 10:16:03 AM
Bones, I got the next round for this lot. 

Well, I'm working on launching a blog called Motivation for Life. It is one of those things that I have learned a little bit about in the last so many years. Trying to find an intersection between all the stuff that I've formally learned and all the stuff that I've learned via hard knocks. More on that coming soon...

So remember my story about not getting the office and them adding the loudmouth to the bunch?  Well another desk opened up in the office where my boss sits. And he gave it to someone else under the guise of "he needs more training than you do."  What a crock of shit.  I don't do well working for the man. Drives me up a damn wall. 

But, the loudmouth is digging her own hole. I sit there and listen to all the crap she says....and you guys thought I had a potty mouth!. And then she turns it into a daycare every afternoon. Comes in late. Leaves for over an hour after lunch. And then brings her kid in there around 3:30. And pretends to keep working while her kid runs up and down the hall pestering people.

It won't last. I heard her boss bitching about it a couple of days ago. I think I shall keep a thing of microwave popcorn handy for the fireworks. >:D



Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 29, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

That sounds like a good idea mate.

Shits you when you know you can do the job better and someone pips you at the post for a not so legit reason
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 29, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
Dad always used to say 'Give an idiot enough rope and they'll surely hang themselves without any other help'  ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 29, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
Pretty true saying mate

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 29, 2018, 12:06:20 PM
My aunt worked for the same company all her adult life. She kept not being promoted to Office Manager because she didn't have any college degree. They would hire some wet behind the ears graduate and send them to my aunt to train. She finally told her boss if she was good enough to train the dimwits, she was good enough to have the job. She was done with training. She also was made Office Manager and remained in that position until retirement/the place closed. The last two employees to leave the building were the owner and my aunt.

Sometimes speaking up for oneself actually works.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 30, 2018, 02:05:52 AM
My couple are on a boat resturant.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 30, 2018, 02:22:16 AM
Yes the old degree. A lot of times it is but a piece of paper mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: herron on March 30, 2018, 02:51:32 AM
I've got two of 'em, but never needed them to work...only to get the job.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 30, 2018, 04:16:17 AM
Yes it makes you wonder doesn't it. A degree to open a door and experience takes you to the next level, generally speaking
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on March 30, 2018, 10:49:21 AM
My sis would say it's the skills you learn whilst earning your degree that are important.  Personal time management, focus, critical path analysis, etc.  The paper is the key to the door so you can really show what you can do.

Which is why we are so scathing of those who cheat to get their degree, and even more so of those who facilitate the various 'shortcuts'.  There's a lazy 'mindset' in the ones who 'buy' a degree, and if they 'succeed' it will permeate their entire life and relationships with others.  This kind of poison can drop down through the entire workplace.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 30, 2018, 11:46:40 AM
So this same aunt who became Office Manager, is now 90 unless she is 91, hard for me to keep track.

A couple weeks ago my sister flew from Arizona to Texas to help her plan the rest of her life. Aunt Babe needs help with daily living stuff and she is a widow and childless. So my sister is helping her move to Arizona to be closer. My sister's daughter came along to help with the planning and brought the three year old because you can't leave them home alone.

On the day they arrived but before they even got to Aunt Babe's house, they got a call that Aunt Babe had been in a car accident. She was treated and released from the hospital and everyone arrived at her house at about the same time.

So instead of helping with the future move, my sister spent the first week helping with the current mess. This is why I haven't heard from her. She is still in Texas and things are finally moving along.

Life just is such a curved path full of twists and turns and not going in the direction you thought it would. My sister will return to Arizona on Monday after having packed up most of Aunt Babe's house for moving. Then in two weeks, she will fly back out to Texas and bring Aunt Babe back to Arizona where she has arranged for her to live in the house directly across the street so that my sister's chaotic regular life won't drive the old lady insane and Aunt Babe can keep the house at 85 degrees without melting my sister.

Then they will look for assisted living arrangements. So it is working, but it is not working the way any of us thought it would.

And so my sister is working diligently and I'm coloring. We should have planned this better, but didn't know it would turn out like this.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 30, 2018, 12:21:08 PM
I've got two of 'em, but never needed them to work...only to get the job.

Well look what the cat dragged in!! Hi Herron! So great to see you here.

My sis would say it's the skills you learn whilst earning your degree that are important.  Personal time management, focus, critical path analysis, etc.  The paper is the key to the door so you can really show what you can do.

Which is why we are so scathing of those who cheat to get their degree, and even more so of those who facilitate the various 'shortcuts'.  There's a lazy 'mindset' in the ones who 'buy' a degree, and if they 'succeed' it will permeate their entire life and relationships with others.  This kind of poison can drop down through the entire workplace.

Gyppo

Yes, all that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on March 31, 2018, 01:04:22 AM
Oh wow Spell, what a few weeks your sis has had. Hope the rest runs smoothly for her mate.

Bones, a round for the bar, it is Easter after all  8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on March 31, 2018, 03:43:57 AM
Two more days, friends.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on March 31, 2018, 12:22:40 PM
I'm cooking my ham today because we are going to Hilton Head tomorrow and I want leftover ham. And today is a better day to cook it than Monday. So, Easter Dinner today even tho over here, it isn't Easter until tomorrow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on March 31, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
I slept in this morning for whatever reason. Having yesterday off for the holiday was nice, but we had to go to a funeral visitation thing so it wasn't all fun and games.

I am exceedingly happy though feeling that today is only Saturday, and if I get my laundry done today, I'll have all day tomorrow to play play play!

Bones, you got any special seasonings to add to the ham?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 01, 2018, 12:15:58 AM
Well it's Sunday here, bunny has been, bunny has gone. Coffee consumed, treadmill time concluded, must be shower time now.

Bones, be back soon for a big breakfast, exercise makes you hungry
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 01, 2018, 03:03:03 AM
Just a few more hours before campe begins.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 01, 2018, 11:52:57 AM
Ready to get into the car again and drive. Happy Easter to all.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 01, 2018, 12:28:32 PM
Have a great time Patti  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on April 01, 2018, 01:44:23 PM
Where is she going?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 01, 2018, 07:57:22 PM
Visiting her son, she loves that  :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 02, 2018, 02:24:44 AM
April is here at last! :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 02, 2018, 09:42:36 AM
It happens.  Every year.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 02, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
We went to Bluffton or Hilton Head if that's a better known place or we went to Craig's house.

His wife's family boycotted her or the holiday or something and we were the only ones there instead of a house full of people.

We ate and talked and laughed and taught Frankie how to play Hearts - the card game. It was a fun and relaxing day - except for the drive there and back.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 02, 2018, 02:10:26 PM
Family boycotts, don't you just love them
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 02, 2018, 03:00:53 PM
I know there are toxic families out there full of violence and addiction and bad things and I understand trying to minimize the contact with those people.

I don't understand this crap at all because none of the above things apply.

In the part of my family where they do apply, my son is generous in spirit and tries to make sure the kids still have as much contact as is safe with the less than totally good parts. He does protect the kids as much as possible, but still doesn't outright boycott.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 02, 2018, 09:50:08 PM
"Bones, I'll have a pint mug of steaming lemon tea if you'd be so kind."

Suddenly it's quarter to ten at night.  How did that happen?   it was still daylight when I last looked out of the window ;-)  I must have been busier than I realised.  I remember half past six, when I came in from shopping and thought I'll have a drink in a while and decide what to eat.

It's probably going to be beans on toast now it's this late.  Nothing too heavy.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 02, 2018, 10:16:11 PM
Morning all

Sometimes the time seems to fly mate, other times, its a drag

Hope you daughter in law and grandie weren't too upset Spell.

We have a bit of that toxic stuff with the addiction and violence etc, you can only protect the babies and hope the others crawl up their own bums and disappear
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 02, 2018, 11:54:01 PM
It is now nearly midnight and I still haven't had that drink.

Hot chocolate and bed, here I come.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 03, 2018, 04:26:13 AM
Sleep well mate  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 03, 2018, 04:41:09 AM
I got caught up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 03, 2018, 04:42:02 AM
Awake again with a case of 'the fidgets', so I got up for a drink and a little bite to eat.  It usually works.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 03, 2018, 12:03:33 PM
I truly hope the afflicted human will find a path back to a better life and incorporate the lessons into becoming the parent the kids so badly need. But addiction is difficult to overcome. And the scars inflicted can be lifelong, says the adult child of an addict.

On a happier note, my sister and I are going to diet together long distance. I'm just too fluffy and need someone to keep me accountable. I picked my sister. Too bad for her.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 03, 2018, 01:28:59 PM
Yeah harder to lose as we age mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on April 03, 2018, 04:19:29 PM
So this Easter the dog and I pigged out on rib steak 8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 04, 2018, 05:59:10 AM
Most of my day wasted editing my site.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 04, 2018, 09:34:47 AM
Morning Bones. Anyone there? Not?

Never mind. I'll have a tea and a full English breakfast. Yes, I know the time, but I still want breakfast, so get on with it already will you? I'll be over there by the window, watching the Jays.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 04, 2018, 12:31:20 PM
Bones, it is morning here and perfectly good time for breakfast. I would like a Belgium waffle with strawberries and whipped cream. And coffee. Always coffee. Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 04, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
Just the coffee for me Bones. Off to physio soon then a walk. Maybe call back in for a refill and toast with homemade lime butter later

How are all you barflies anyway?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 04, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
Old and crabby. Who knew?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 04, 2018, 10:55:42 PM
Reasonably content here.  Just finished some editing and now tapering off gently towards bedtime.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 05, 2018, 12:09:56 AM
Early night tonight mate?

I am now ready for that toast thanks Bones
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 05, 2018, 03:44:12 AM
Why did I go crazy with pictures and writing stories over 100 chapters?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 05, 2018, 12:17:58 PM
A new morning. A reason for coffee. Life is glorious.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 05, 2018, 09:28:30 PM
A Martini please, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 05, 2018, 10:24:26 PM
It's either late afternoon or early evening here. Coffee, either way.
Thanks, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 05, 2018, 10:57:05 PM
Morning here, haven't even had the coffee yet
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 05, 2018, 10:58:51 PM
Close to midnight here. I should be in bed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 05, 2018, 11:00:47 PM
I had an early one last night, been the habit the last few nights
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 05, 2018, 11:24:51 PM
I sleep when I can because I too often can't sleep when I should.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 06, 2018, 05:06:45 AM
Tomorrow I will be done in time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 06, 2018, 05:32:55 AM
"Early breakfast please, Bones."

Grandaughter wore me out yesterday and I was in bed by 10 PM.  Almost unheard of.

Woke up at 5 AM, all bright-eyed and bushy tailed,so thought I may as well get up for a while.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 06, 2018, 07:45:01 AM
I have had one of those days. Achieved nothing but haven't stopped.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 06, 2018, 11:10:17 AM
Ah, one of those days.  An oasis of pointless effort ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 06, 2018, 11:58:30 AM
Sometimes it take me the whole day to get nothing done.


Coffee please, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 06, 2018, 12:49:17 PM
That sounds about right and now its bedtime
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 06, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Reminds me of the old boy sat on a bench talking to his mate.

"My wife asked me what I was going to do today.  I said 'Nothing'.  She said 'You did that yesterday'.  I said 'I ran out of time and didn't get it finished'."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 06, 2018, 03:00:11 PM
I was productive yesterday ... I got a massage. Well, maybe not productive, but it was wonderful.

And then I went to the gym today and undid it all.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 07, 2018, 04:22:42 AM
Let's see if I finish this tonight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 07, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Morning!

Bones, I could do with some breakfast. I'm starving.
A heart attack on a plate would fit the bill. And a nice cuppa.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 07, 2018, 11:19:38 AM
Is a "nice cuppa" tea or coffee? I've always thought it was tea, but ... you know me and coffee.

Bones, coffee please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 07, 2018, 01:16:10 PM
A cuppa, or a nice cuppa is always tea. Always.

And I could very well do with another one. And some food too. I've been working my little arse off on the balcony and am in dire need of sustenance.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 07, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Cuppa is traditionally linked with tea, or occasionally cocoa in families who always have cocoa at bedtime.

Coffee, amongst anyone I know is always just 'a coffee', as if it's going to somehow be delivered without a container ;-)  I've never thought about this anomaly before.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 07, 2018, 04:11:16 PM
We have a cup o joe over here, so ...

I believe Americans are far more known as coffee drinkers, but even I have tea daily - but I don't think I have European tea. I think you would call it flavored water because it is herbal tea although some of it is lightly caffeinated.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 07, 2018, 05:07:13 PM
We'd just call it herbal tea, or 'bloody muck' if we particularly dislike that flavour of steeped leaves.

'Cup o' Joe' has gained a certain amount of traction with some of our coffee drinkers, but they probably watch too many American films.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Cathy C on April 07, 2018, 09:10:17 PM
'Bones, give 'em all the tea they want. I'll have a beer, ta.' Cheers.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 08, 2018, 02:03:30 AM
Irish coffee for me thanks Irish  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 08, 2018, 02:55:42 AM
RIP Paku-san (Isao Takahata) :'(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on April 08, 2018, 09:13:06 AM
Bones, I'll have, a Yorkshire tea, white no sugar, in a cup not a mug, and 2 toasted crumpets with lots of butter and marmite. And do you mind watching my chameleon later while I pop out to get my ears lowered? He won't be any trouble, I'll put him on the bar and you'll hardly notice him.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 08, 2018, 10:59:06 AM
Such a friendly little critter isn't he
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 08, 2018, 12:10:01 PM
Might be friendly, might just be trying to blend in with the surroundings. Those guys are a bit two faced, if you ask me. Can't make up their minds about who they want to be, always striving to just disappear.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 08, 2018, 04:19:49 PM
Slip the chessboard underneath him, then we'll see how clever he is ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 08, 2018, 07:16:01 PM
There are some smarty pants chameleons who can blend into that type of pattern.

Now if the chameleon could actually play chess, and win, that would be terrific. But Mark probably taught it how.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 09, 2018, 12:39:48 AM
I think he would only teach it to nearly win >:D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 09, 2018, 02:02:18 AM
I'll get caught up tonight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 09, 2018, 10:49:39 AM
I woke up at 4.30 again. There is really nothing good about this. It's not like I'm rested. It's only that I'm awake. Bones, if you could, a coffee please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 09, 2018, 11:17:04 PM
Today will be a short day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 10, 2018, 12:10:06 AM
Morning all
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 10, 2018, 01:46:43 AM
I was knackered yesterday and in bed at 9 PM.  Ridiculous.

Woke at 1 AM for a drink and a slice of toast.  Back to bed again soon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 10, 2018, 02:59:12 AM
They are long nights those ones mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 10, 2018, 05:01:29 AM
Awake at 5 AM.

"Toast and lemon tea please, Bones."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 10, 2018, 06:22:29 AM
Lemon tea always sounds good on paper  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 10, 2018, 10:58:11 AM
Morning! Well, more like good afternoon, actually. I spent all morning doing stuff. Made soda bread for breakfast. It was delicious. Only now I've got half a loaf left, and am not sure what to do with it. I like my soda bread when it comes straight out of the oven, but once it's cooled not so much anymore.  :-\

Spent some time trying to get my fingers to do my bidding at the piano, but I'm a far better singer than a pianist, so it's been a bit of a struggle. Still, I like being able to play the accompaniments to the songs I'm singing, so there's that.

Bones, I could do with a nice strong cuppa.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 10, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
I had a slightly sore back before I went to the gym yesterday from the dumbbell snatches on Saturday. Not too bad considering the number of them I did.

But then yesterday's work was finding a three rep maximum weight for deadlifts. I worked my way up to 145# which isn't really very much weight for a deadlift (even for me) but could only manage two instead of the three. My back was so tight it was like a neon sign flashing.

So I behaved after that but did the row and the burpees over the box jumps (without ever jumping and just stepping over the box). I came home and took an Aleve and used a heating pad on and off.

The picture ledges arrived by FedEx yesterday and we had to move furniture and get them hung and then place the pictures and put the furniture back.

Later that same night, Dick hoped I would be smart enough to not go to the gym today if my back was still hurting. I pointed out he didn't much care about that when we were moving furniture. He laughed.

But in point of fact, my back is better, but I know we are supposed to do clean and jerks today. I think I'm not throwing the weights overhead, no matter how light. I will be smart enough to not hurt myself.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 10, 2018, 09:05:41 PM
I need a new external hard drive or to fix my old ones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 10, 2018, 10:01:00 PM
Go for a new one.  If the old one(s) are playing up it's only a question of time until they die properly and take all your data with them.  Unless you have a proper back-up plan.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 10, 2018, 11:54:12 PM
Morning barflies, any news today worth listening to?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on April 11, 2018, 12:45:10 PM
Not from here.

Bones, coffee please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on April 11, 2018, 02:01:10 PM
This place is too quiet
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on April 11, 2018, 04:50:47 PM
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello

So empty I can hear an echo.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 11, 2018, 05:03:33 PM
Very faintly.

"hello"
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 11, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
OK, DAn, Bones will keep your glass full for the next 24 hours or so. Just so you get pissed enough to not be able to stand on my pidium in the other thread.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on April 11, 2018, 10:01:22 PM
What's a pidium? Whatever it is, you can have it to yourself.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on April 11, 2018, 10:18:02 PM
It's a virus which infects pedants.  There is no known cure, but some relief can be obtained by sitting back and waiting for someone else to display the symptoms.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on April 12, 2018, 05:33:11 AM
I had a long day today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dansinger on April 12, 2018, 04:15:52 PM
What's a pidium? Whatever it is, you can have it to yourself.


It's a podium where the fingers tripped over themselves because they are:
1) too large, and
2) too fast

Basically a matter of fingers faster than brain. That, and laptop keyboards suck for large-handed people.

Bones, a tea please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: WordBird on April 13, 2018, 12:06:17 AM
Greetings All!

I had a weird day.  I had to force myself out of bed this morning.  I woke up early, but I was so tired and my joints hurt. So I thought I was going to be late to work, got ready as fast as I could and ended up arriving at my normal time.  Then the servers went down at work, so we couldn't do anything. Apparently we were hacked and the only way to stop the damage was to turn everything off.  But, I was the only one around that could access the internet using my laptop without the virtual desktop stuff. Go figure. Some people left early, some went out and played for a while.   

During my spare time at work, I finalized some graphics details for a side project. Way fun.  The servers were restored at 2:37pm and thought I'd have to work late, but......my boss left on time! I was outta there before he hit the edge of the parking lot.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Noizchild on April 13, 2018, 02:39:55 AM
Nails are breaking off again.
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 13, 2018, 11:45:34 AM
My nails are paper thin and break all the time. Weightlifting crap doesn't help them at all.
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Post by: Dansinger on April 13, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
My nails are paper thin and break all the time. Weightlifting crap doesn't help them at all.

You should buy sturdier nails then. Though I have to say, I prefer screws.  :P
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 13, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
That sounded just like a man

hahahahahah
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Post by: Dansinger on April 13, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
That sounded just like a man

hahahahahah

What else did you expect?  ;D

Here, have a drink on me.
Bones, I'll have a Martini.
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 13, 2018, 10:42:40 PM
Bones, I will have a coffee, but splash some Bailey's in it.

Thanks.
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Post by: WordBird on April 13, 2018, 10:51:50 PM
Evening All,

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Post by: Noizchild on April 14, 2018, 12:09:28 AM
This story will take three days to finish.
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 14, 2018, 12:09:10 PM
At 2.30 it took me over an hour to fall back to sleep. At 6 AM it took me two minutes. What the hell?
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Post by: Noizchild on April 14, 2018, 11:41:55 PM
Day two of the story. I think I might stretch this out to four or five days.
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 15, 2018, 11:58:53 AM
Dick and his brother are on their way to their mother's for a birthday celebration. She is turning 96.
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Post by: WordBird on April 15, 2018, 12:39:20 PM
Good Morning All!

Bones, I want a mocha coffee this morning. A large one. I'm busy.

I'm considering launching another Write250 Challenge today. As part of my goals for launching my new blog, I am committing to writing a minimum of 250 words everyday and publishing every Friday.  I will be doing this regardless of the challenge, but it did seem to spark some good engagement around here.

Do we need rules for it this time? And if so, what would they be?
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Post by: Dansinger on April 15, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
I'm all for it, WB. Same rules as last time would work for me.

Bones, a Martini please.
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Post by: Mark Hoffmann on April 15, 2018, 09:03:07 PM
Why not make it 256 words? That way the techies get something out of it too.
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Post by: Noizchild on April 16, 2018, 02:19:24 AM
Kind of got off track. Darn it.
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 16, 2018, 11:32:26 AM
I officially have too much stuff, but I like it all.

Yesterday, I made up 17 shirts. I had the designs already created, some are repeats from long sleeve shirts that I wanted to have for summer wear.

I still have lots of plain shirts to decorate.
And already unplain shirts to wear.
And I love wearing a different outfit every day.

And the shirts are cute as hell.
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Post by: Laura on April 16, 2018, 05:50:32 PM
You're gonna need more closets, Spell.
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Post by: Dansinger on April 16, 2018, 08:47:02 PM
Why not make it 256 words? That way the techies get something out of it too.

That put a big smile on my face.

Bones, a Martini please.
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Post by: WordBird on April 17, 2018, 12:03:08 AM
How about 257 words.
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Post by: Noizchild on April 17, 2018, 12:38:12 AM
I finished up a short series today.
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 17, 2018, 11:48:17 AM
My son gave me a bunch of shit for not routinely writing. I quit doing my Little Bits of History and have just poked around a bit since.

I tried Project A and realized it simply didn't work for me. So I went on to other letters of the alphabet. I think I found something sustainable. Maybe. Craig said even if he wasn't related to me, he would read it. So ... maybe.
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Post by: Noizchild on April 17, 2018, 11:37:43 PM
I started a new story today.
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Post by: Vienna on April 27, 2018, 04:15:12 PM
It's warm and sunny today, what they call drinking weather where I come from. I'll have a pint. Interesting at work today. I work in a book store and this afternnoon the door opened and an "old" man came in. I stood up from the computer and  said "Can I help you"
He was coming in my direction, slowly, with the aid of a cane and replied, " I'm coming, I'm  coming I can't walk any faster, I'm 104 years old and you will have to speak louder "young man" (I am 62) I can see your mouth moving but can't hear a word you are saying.  I showed him a few books on the subject he wanted and he bought one. He also wanted a specific book but couldn't remember the title so we chatted about this and that for an hour on and off. As he said goodbye, he said I have something to do at the weekend if the weather turns nasty, look for that book on Mr Google............not bad for 104 I thought.
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Post by: Noizchild on April 28, 2018, 01:21:17 AM
Only one more thing to do.
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Post by: Firefly on April 29, 2018, 11:33:45 PM
Who's shout is it today?
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Post by: Gyppo on April 30, 2018, 01:09:27 AM
Yours.  It has to happen occasionally.
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Post by: Noizchild on April 30, 2018, 01:11:14 AM
I'm on the last story for the collection.
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Post by: Firefly on April 30, 2018, 05:24:41 AM
Yours.  It has to happen occasionally.

Wow I didn't see that coming.  :o
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 30, 2018, 02:59:21 PM
Make sure she doesn't have Andrew's card. You know how she is.
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Post by: Noizchild on April 30, 2018, 08:46:38 PM
Today's the last day.
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Post by: Gyppo on April 30, 2018, 09:09:13 PM
Does that mean I wasted my energy putting the bin out this evening?
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Post by: Spell Chick on April 30, 2018, 10:05:49 PM
Perhaps, but it would be an even bigger waste to roll it back still full.

Life choices.
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Post by: Mastafrank on May 01, 2018, 04:50:32 AM
It's warm and sunny today, what they call drinking weather where I come from. I'll have a pint. Interesting at work today. I work in a book store and this afternnoon the door opened and an "old" man came in. I stood up from the computer and  said "Can I help you"
He was coming in my direction, slowly, with the aid of a cane and replied, " I'm coming, I'm  coming I can't walk any faster, I'm 104 years old and you will have to speak louder "young man" (I am 62) I can see your mouth moving but can't hear a word you are saying.  I showed him a few books on the subject he wanted and he bought one. He also wanted a specific book but couldn't remember the title so we chatted about this and that for an hour on and off. As he said goodbye, he said I have something to do at the weekend if the weather turns nasty, look for that book on Mr Google............not bad for 104 I thought.
your still a young buck :o
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 01, 2018, 03:42:09 PM
It's hard to know when one is "old" now. We are given the "honor" of still being young like it is something to be proud of. It's taken me a long time to get this old and I want all the benefits of doing so.

Bones, a coffee please. Maybe put some Bailey's in it.
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Post by: Mastafrank on May 01, 2018, 06:05:12 PM
When I turned 33 I started calling women 'dear' ::) and I'm afraid its a bad habit :o
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Post by: Noizchild on May 02, 2018, 02:39:33 AM
New month, new project.
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Post by: Firefly on May 02, 2018, 03:42:18 AM
When I turned 33 I started calling women 'dear' ::) and I'm afraid its a bad habit :o

You are lucky you don't get bopped  ;D
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Post by: Mastafrank on May 02, 2018, 05:24:15 AM
In what way ???

Joking aside, at least they understand
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Post by: herron on May 03, 2018, 03:07:43 AM
I was 33 so long ago I can't remember what I called anyone.
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Post by: Noizchild on May 03, 2018, 03:52:43 AM
I'm still thirsty.
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Post by: Mastafrank on May 03, 2018, 06:16:57 AM
I was 33 so long ago I can't remember what I called anyone.
:D
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 03, 2018, 11:54:04 AM
It was so long ago ...

In fact, it has been so long since my kids were 33 I don't even remember what happened then ...


Except I do know that when I was 33, my older son was 11 and I played racquetball with a guy who was 55 at the time and we really liked all those double numbers. We are all much older now.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 03, 2018, 09:29:33 PM
I was looking at the moss on my roof and thinking all I needed was a ladder and then I could walk up the slope, sit down, and scrape off the moss.

Then I remembered I wasn't thirty anymore.  I felt really old for a while.
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Post by: Noizchild on May 04, 2018, 01:45:39 AM
I feel hot.
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Post by: Vienna on May 04, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Happy Star Wars Day....May the fourth be with you!
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Post by: Gyppo on May 04, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
My Nephew caught me with that one, at about five minutes past midnight.  After years of me catching him.  I wouldn't be surprised to find the little geek has it set up automatically ;-)
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Post by: Vienna on May 04, 2018, 03:13:55 PM
drinkin wevver, as dry as a dingo's dangler here, I'll have a pint please. Talking of age, it's getting to that stage where I was 31 when I came to Vienna and I am now 62..........a bit scary really,  I will have been here longer than where I was born .......soon.

cheers
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 04, 2018, 11:38:20 PM
Talking to some new guy at the gym. I asked him his age. And then I did some math. I was more than three times his age and suddenly felt very, very old instead of my normal just old.
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Post by: Firefly on May 05, 2018, 03:35:47 AM
You lot have depressed me
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Post by: Noizchild on May 05, 2018, 03:42:58 AM
I will be blogging next week.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 05, 2018, 06:09:04 AM
Happy Star Wars Day....May the fourth be with you!

The Dark Lord of the Fifth lays his revenge upon you.
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 05, 2018, 12:00:38 PM
I really liked the Ewoks
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Post by: Vienna on May 05, 2018, 04:15:14 PM
What is an Ewok? An electric chinese frying pan perhaps?
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Post by: DAnuchan on May 05, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
An ewok is an electronic wok. The Apple version is called an iwok.

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Post by: Gyppo on May 05, 2018, 04:20:45 PM
What is an Ewok? An electric chinese frying pan perhaps?

Nice one, V.

It could be a Wok from Yorkshire too.
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 05, 2018, 04:54:59 PM
Poor little Ewoks. They get no respect.
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Post by: Noizchild on May 06, 2018, 01:54:25 AM
I have an interesting idea: What if God was in love with Lucifer?
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Post by: Gyppo on May 06, 2018, 08:43:57 AM
Turn it into a story and see where it goes ;-)
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 06, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
A quiet day in which to do nothing.

Bones, coffee to start my nothing with, please.
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Post by: Firefly on May 06, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
My Internet is still down, been a week now
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 06, 2018, 11:56:51 PM
How do you even exist like that?
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Post by: Noizchild on May 07, 2018, 12:03:42 AM
Turn it into a story and see where it goes ;-)

I am doing that.
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Post by: Firefly on May 07, 2018, 10:41:46 AM
How do you even exist like that?

Been a long week with no light at the end of the tunnel
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 07, 2018, 11:53:14 AM
Do they at least know why you don't have internet?
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Post by: Gyppo on May 07, 2018, 12:41:17 PM
It's internet karma.  Payback for all the 'free' broadband you've mooched during walkabouts.
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 07, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
Ooohhhh, I think Gyppo is onto something there.
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Post by: Firefly on May 07, 2018, 11:12:45 PM
They say it's an outage. No shit Sherlock  >:(

AND there are no open accounts in the whoke street I can hack into  :'(

Oh well
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Post by: Noizchild on May 08, 2018, 03:47:57 AM
Work is done for the day.
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Post by: Amie on May 08, 2018, 04:47:03 AM
Burning question of the day: why would someone use white bath towels to remove mascara, lipstick and foundation, when make-up remover and cotton wool pads have been provided right next to said towels? And how, after irreparably staining four towels, can they still have enough makeup left on to stain the entire length of the sheets and pillow cases? It almost seems deliberate.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 08, 2018, 08:54:16 AM
I bet this is a reference to a paying guest.  There is a certain type out there whom, having paid for something, feel they own it.  Therefore they 'mark their territory' like dogs pissing on lamp posts and street corners. They probably throw their litter down in the street too, and honestly believe they are doing the world a favour by 'making sure the sweepers have a job to do.'

If I'm right, and they paid a deposit, keep it ad tell them why.  Don't let them play the 'bad feedback' card ;-)

Gyppo
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 08, 2018, 11:50:10 AM
Or buy black towels.
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Post by: Amie on May 08, 2018, 12:29:38 PM
Thanks Gyp - you are correct, this is an Airbnb thing. I don't think there was a deposit, but I think there may be a mechanism to ask for money back from Airbnb.

Patti, we did consider the black (or rather dark blue) towel option. But the sheets would have to be a similar non-stain ping colour - and dark sheets in an otherwise light and airy country cottage seems grim to me. Seems a shame to have to downgrade the quality of my offering (which always gets 5* reviews) because of the impossibly slobby and clueless 1%

One of the things that surprised me was the sheer volume of makeup. The lady wore false eyelashes (and put the glue nibs also on the towels - who needs mascara on false eyelashes?) And then, after smearing three towels (I admit, one of the towels was stained with coffee - seems like they spilled a cup and decided the towel was the best option to mop it up (rather than say the paper towels or cleaning cloths provided) with heavy makeup, how was there any left to stain the sheets?

I think partly it was gobs a fake tan (and she discarded some white tennis shoes that were also stained with fake tan), but that doesn't explain the lipstick and mascara. There was more lipstick and mascara on the towels and sheets combined than I probably use in a week. And, after having wiped what looked like a tube of fake tan off on the towels, how did she still have another tube to deposit all over the bedsheets?

It's a mystery. And I'm not exaggerating (well.... maybe a tiny bit. Maybe it was one full tube of fake tan between the towels and the sheets)

They appeared to have a good time. They left this morning, and gave us chocolates as a thank you, and said the place was "amazing". So, I guess they're just clueless.
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Post by: Amie on May 08, 2018, 12:48:11 PM
ps - Patti, on the second day, I did replace all the towels with dark blue ones. The first day they evidently didn't bathe, so I was lulled into thinking that they were somehow tidier in the bathroom than they were elsewhere. The place was a tip, and the towels were on the floor, but the shower cubicle was spotless. The bed was heaped with clothes, so I didn't notice the sheet-staining until the second day. I wonder if they twigged when they saw the dark towels and all the spare towels removed?

Spectacularly untidy people overall. Mostly it doesn't matter - just those stainable fabrics that are a problem. I did wonder though how he managed to keep missing the toilet, and how she maneged to get lipstick and foundation on the outside of the wash hand basin, on the mirrors, on the floors, inside the fridge (not kidding)

None of that mattered because the hard surfaces were easy enough to clean, but the towels and sheets were both weird and irksome. Oh, and for some strange reason they stole the toilet paper (??)
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Post by: Gyppo on May 08, 2018, 01:27:50 PM
Oh, and for some strange reason they stole the toilet paper (??)

It's that 'ownership' thing again ;-)
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Post by: Jo Bannister on May 08, 2018, 09:37:57 PM
I think you have to conclude they were born in a zoo - that part where the bars stop you from leaving.  Having somehow persuaded the gateman - as they later managed to convince the booking agents - that they were in fact human, they must have put their last peanut on a horse that came in at a thousand to one, enabling them to book a holiday in your lovely cottage.  Since they acquired what little they knew of human behaviour by watching day-time television, they were at a sad loss to know how to behave. 

You have to excuse the fake tan and the mascara, though.  They were part of the disguise they needed to avoid being darted and returned to the zoo.
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Post by: Amie on May 08, 2018, 10:30:39 PM
You have to excuse the fake tan and the mascara, though.  They were part of the disguise they needed to avoid being darted and returned to the zoo.

I don't know why it amuses me so much to think of them being darted and returned to the zoo :) - thank you for the image :) :) :)
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Post by: Noizchild on May 09, 2018, 01:53:22 AM
I've been working hard with my writing today.
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 09, 2018, 11:56:39 AM
Can you bleach the towels and get rid of the staining that way?

Even when I wore a "lot" of makeup, I couldn't have managed to dirty more than a small washcloth with it. I now usually wear none or just a bit of blush to not scare people, thinking a corpse is walking around.

I don't know the age of your guests, but I do know some old people think putting on lots of makeup covers the aging process. I don't think it does at all. But the fake eyelashes lead me to believe it is a younger person. Have you ever seen some of the videos telling people how to "sculpt" their face with makeup? It takes lots and lots of makeup and lots and lots of time. Scary really. I wonder how ugly she was without any makeup? Got a picture?
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Post by: Amie on May 09, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
I'd say they were late twenties / early 30s.

I ended up boil-washing them (95C, 3h45min cycle) twice with lots of Vanish oxy-action, and it seems to have got rid of most of the stains - just a few specks of mascara that wouldn't shift.
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Post by: Amie on May 09, 2018, 02:55:17 PM
By boil-washing, I meant the sheets and towels, not the guests ;)
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Post by: Gyppo on May 09, 2018, 05:39:53 PM
By boil-washing, I meant the sheets and towels, not the guests ;)

Pity.  Just for a second I lived in hope.  Darted and then boil-washed.
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 09, 2018, 11:58:37 PM
It did make a great story there, for a minute.
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Post by: Noizchild on May 10, 2018, 02:13:46 AM
Teaser for Mayan M.C. has dropped.
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Post by: Firefly on May 10, 2018, 07:57:54 AM
Well I'm back, finally.  :o
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Post by: Amie on May 10, 2018, 08:30:21 AM
Now I'm picturing the film poster for "Darted and Boil-washed" 50s-style illustrated couple running from a room screaming, clutching their heads...

What would the tag line be?

"In a world, where fake tan in banned...."


- waves -hi FF!
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 10, 2018, 11:37:42 AM
Welcome back FF

Amie, I could sit through a two hour thriller like that.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 10, 2018, 12:02:08 PM
Orson Welles type voice over...  "It all began in a quiet little bungalow, in a leafy suburb, with two people who weren't quite what they seemed..."
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Post by: Amie on May 10, 2018, 11:39:04 PM
;D

Reminds me of an SNL sketch from about 40 years ago, "the Thing That Wouldn't Leave" (written in stylised blood-dripping font, Jane Curtin clutching her head and screaming every few seconds or so as John Belushi ignores repeated hints that his hosts are tired and would like to go to bed..)

Oh, wait, here it is: https://vimeo.com/70753317

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Post by: Noizchild on May 10, 2018, 11:55:30 PM
I like "This is America" by Childish Gambino.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 11, 2018, 01:28:48 PM
Hilarious clip, Amie ;-)
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Post by: Noizchild on May 12, 2018, 12:10:01 AM
I keep slacking off.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 14, 2018, 04:51:39 AM
Wide awake at 4-30 AM, and starving.

"Bones, I'll have the early breakfast, please.  Crumpets and a milky coffee."

Serves me right for being in bed by midnight.  I must have been tired though, my book was lying on the floor when I woke up.  Doubt if I read more than one page.  Must have managed to take my glasses off though as they were neatly folded up at the side.
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Post by: Firefly on May 14, 2018, 11:39:40 AM
I've been having early nights for a while. Waking up early on the flipside though
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 14, 2018, 03:05:29 PM
I always wake early these days. So if I want some sleep, I have to adjust that end of the scale. I used to be such a good sleeper. I don't know what happened.
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Post by: Amie on May 14, 2018, 03:39:16 PM
I've always been a terrible sleeper. I can remember having insomnia at the age of 4. It's not getting to sleep that's the problem, it's staying asleep. I typically sleep for two hours, wake up, lie awake for an hour or so, then doze in and out until about 7. If I have a meeting first thing in the morning, you can be sure that's when my body will decide it wants to sleep :(
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Post by: Firefly on May 15, 2018, 01:09:08 AM
They say, whom ever they are, you shouldn't lie in bed for a length of time, get up and do something. I have never been able to do that
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Post by: Noizchild on May 15, 2018, 02:55:03 AM
Another day of good work done.
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Post by: Amie on May 15, 2018, 07:31:12 AM
FF, I used to do that. For about 8 years, I lived on a maximum of four hours sleep a night. I think it adversely affected my mental health. So I decided to just stay in bed and try to be calm instead.
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Post by: Gyppo on May 15, 2018, 08:10:21 AM
They say, whom ever they are, you shouldn't lie in bed for a length of time, get up and do something. I have never been able to do that

I must be one of the 'they' ;-)  If lying there is making you miserable, worrying about not being able to sleep, then it becomes self-fulfilling prophecy.  A positive spiral of frustration.  I get up and do something, which is admittedly easier now that I live alone and don't have to worry about disturbing anyone.

It doesn't have to be anything too energetic, just sit out and read for a while, or listen to music, or have an early breakfast.  Quite often this is enough to calm you down and send you back to sleep again.

Don't forget that we are all animals and as such will start waking when the daylight appears.  In the Spring and Summer this can be very early.  In Autumn and Winter the 'sun alarm' is naturally later.  Mankind is the only animal - as far as we know - which feels it can ignore this pattern.

Gyppo
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Post by: Spell Chick on May 15, 2018, 04:24:55 PM
I was awake from about 2 until 4 this morning. Usually I wake before the alarm goes off, so it was very startling to have it start buzzing. I still made it to the gym on time and did awesome things which really woke me up.
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Post by: Amie on May 15, 2018, 09:09:51 PM
Don't forget that we are all animals and as such will start waking when the daylight appears.  In the Spring and Summer this can be very early.  In Autumn and Winter the 'sun alarm' is naturally later.  Mankind is the only animal - as far as we know - which feels it can ignore this patterN.

My cats feel they can ignore this pattern ;) They sleep 18 hours a day, regardless of season. I've read that cats are "crepuscular" (ie, active at dawn and dusk), but my cats are like, "FFS, get the food in the bowl on a regular schedule so I can get my beauty sleep in. It's taxing having to mew at an empty food bowl. Crepuscular my kitty-cat arse."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 16, 2018, 03:02:30 AM
My internet connection got a little bit slow on me this evening.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 16, 2018, 01:04:16 PM
[Gyppo ambles in, looking pensive.]

The jukebox quickly sorts through its multifarious offerings, thoughtful of the need to avoid a kicking, and some instinct deep in its electronic brain decides this is probably a safe bet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaoqI1sOrr0
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 17, 2018, 02:24:58 AM
Don always spins well Gyp.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 17, 2018, 03:09:11 AM
I had a long afternoon today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 17, 2018, 09:29:52 AM
I was up and about at 2 AM.

Alma came to visit a day earlier than expected, and we had a busy day.  So at 10 PM I went to bed and to sleep.  Four hours later I was awake again, well-rested and rearing to go.  If it had been daylight I would have gone out and painted the shed or something, although my eldest has earmarked that as 'her job' when I decide it needs doing.

It will probably be a waterproof woodstain rather than paint.

We went to the 'quiet cafe' and had to make do with pre-packed sarnies and cold drinks.  It was the day for the annual electrical overhaul and inspection so everything except the lights and the chill cabinet was turned off.  That one day earlier messed up our plans.  But we still got 'our' table.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 17, 2018, 11:58:22 AM
I was awake by 4.30 and simply too rested to fall back to sleep but too tired to actually be awake.

I do that often.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on May 17, 2018, 05:35:33 PM
Me too.  I suspect it's another age thing.  All the years I had to be at work by 8 am to get the paper ready to print, I struggled to get out of bed.  Now I can make my own hours, and do bugger all if I want to, I can't sleep past 6.30 at the latest.  This morning I was up at 5.15.  Had breakfast, then went back to bed for an hour.  That seemed to work quite well.  I was ready for my elevenses, though.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 17, 2018, 11:15:37 PM
I have elected to go to the gym for a CrossFit class four days a week at eight AM. On Saturday, It is 8.15.
I don't mind doing that at all since if they had a 7 AM class, I would be ready for that time without an alarm clock, too. They have a 5 AM class for the working stiffs, but I will be damned if I purposefully get up at 4.15 for anything short of an airplane.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 18, 2018, 02:50:21 AM
Yes last night was the sleepless night but that's all good, I can sleep tonight I guess  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 18, 2018, 03:25:36 AM
Every season of Grey's lately ends with a wedding.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 18, 2018, 09:12:59 AM
And I always thought weddings were supposed to be a beginning, not an ending.  I'm  not the first to make this mistake.  Obviously there were some hidden self delusion sub-routines at work in my Crystal ball.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 18, 2018, 09:30:25 AM
PUB JOKE:  A man goes to a psychiatrist.

"Doc, I've think I'm going mad.  I keep singing The Green Green Grass of Home at the most inappropriate times."

"You're just suffering from Tom Jones Syndrome."

"Is it common?"

"Well...  It's Not Unusual."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 18, 2018, 10:09:22 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

Your shout after that one Gyp
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 18, 2018, 10:18:47 AM
"Okay.  Bones, give the Fly a drink."

The story over on the people watching thread should make up for it ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 18, 2018, 12:08:14 PM
The poor youngsters here aren't going to understand that joke. They probably don't even know who Tom Jones is. It's tough being this smart.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 18, 2018, 01:43:26 PM
True.  They probably think 'going gaga' is something to do with dressing or looking Lady Gaga.  Mum saw Lady Gaga on my sister's TV once and said "The name seems singularly appropriate."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DAnuchan on May 18, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
Tom Jones is still performing this year. He's performing in Texas this weekend. And no, I'm not going. If my mother were still alive, she would drive overnight to stand in line for tickets.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 18, 2018, 09:07:17 PM
I'm about done with my story today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on May 19, 2018, 11:23:05 AM
So who else is watching the wedding??
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 19, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
I was interested enough to attend my own wedding and that of my son. A few nieces and nephews also were close enough for me to watch their weddings. I didn't even go to all my sister's weddings although I did attend one each.

So, it's a pretty safe bet I don't care about a stranger's wedding. Let me know if she trips over the dress. That would be worth watching.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on May 19, 2018, 12:32:00 PM
I've got it on, Frank. Quite a dress! And the American preacher is using up all the talk time., isn't he?  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on May 19, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
Sorry, Laura, I'm with Chick.  These are two people I've never met and never expect to meet.  They seem nice enough, and I wish them well, but why would I be interested in their wedding?  I've got enough actual, flesh-and-blood friends to celebrate/commiserate with.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on May 19, 2018, 02:17:29 PM
I haven't bothered watching, but I can understand why people would be interested. It's the sort of wedding the vast majority of us will never be able to attend in person - it's interesting. I'll gladly watch a few minutes of it on TV when it comes on the news :) - but I'll wait for the edited highlights rather than trig through the whole thing.

My street is having a street party, and it's a glorious day. I will have prosecco in the sun and feel a bit of hope that there are a few public figures such as Meaghan and Harry who seem not to be complete tossers  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on May 19, 2018, 03:09:05 PM
I've got it on, Frank. Quite a dress! And the American preacher is using up all the talk time., isn't he?  ;D

Sticking it to them foppish peeps :o

Damn near cried when the POW walked Meghan down the aisle
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 20, 2018, 12:30:50 AM
I find it a bit weird to see Prince Harry singing "God Save to the Queen" to his grandma.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 20, 2018, 12:50:20 PM
I'm glad y'all enjoyed the spectacle.

Can you imagine living your entire life in the limelight like that?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 20, 2018, 02:51:03 PM
No.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on May 21, 2018, 01:21:31 AM
I'm glad y'all enjoyed the spectacle.

Can you imagine living your entire life in the limelight like that?

God no :o

Prince' dog shits on royal flowers ???
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 21, 2018, 02:14:21 AM
I'm going back to the old cream for my face.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 21, 2018, 12:14:49 PM
I use Nivea. I found the really expensive stuff makes me cringe when I use too much so I use too little. Nivea is cheap and I can slather it all over and really moisturize.

I first use some apple cider vinegar with mother on my face, let that dry, and then Thon a bunch of cream. The vinegar stuff has really helped my complexion overall.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on May 21, 2018, 12:38:30 PM
Apple cider vinegar with mother? Is that a typo? If not, what is mother when used with apple cider vinegar?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 21, 2018, 12:46:30 PM
Having a bit of a Shredder-fest here.  Nothing compared the the mighty two-day Shredathon a while back, but still a couple of bags full.  Gave the overworked machine a little helping of shredder oil, which it seems to appreciate.

Plus there's a lot of old paperwork, and manuals, and Health & Safety handouts which are going for recycling but don't need shredding as there is nothing confidential about them.  Most of it is about ten years old.

Also found a folder full of political leaflets handed out before the local elections one year, which I hung onto for a while to see just how many of their promises were broken.  Most of it was fascinating in that all three main parties claimed credit for the same thing.  I'm sure the Lib-Dems would claim credit for the sun rising every day if they thought they could get away with it ;-)

But that's all binned as well now.  There'll be new lies next time around ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 21, 2018, 02:51:32 PM
Apple cider vinegar with mother? Is that a typo? If not, what is mother when used with apple cider vinegar?

It is some icky moldy looking crap floating around in the vinegar. I have no idea what it really is, but I've been told that vinegar without won't work the same.

(https://goo.gl/images/mm9J3J)
https://goo.gl/images/mm9J3J
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 21, 2018, 08:28:26 PM
Working hard today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on May 21, 2018, 08:32:18 PM
Apple cider vinegar with mother? Is that a typo? If not, what is mother when used with apple cider vinegar?

It is some icky moldy looking crap floating around in the vinegar. I have no idea what it really is, but I've been told that vinegar without won't work the same.

(https://goo.gl/images/mm9J3J)
https://goo.gl/images/mm9J3J

Interesting.

At risk of giving you too much information, I've been making my own sourdough bread, and fermented (sauerkraut-like) vegetables, and it seems to have made everything in my digestive tract much happier.

Maybe our bodies just like certain bugs?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 21, 2018, 08:48:41 PM
Maybe our bodies just like certain bugs?

Very likely, just as some children do very well on a kind of benign parental neglect, whereas others just whinge like hell.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 22, 2018, 02:05:41 AM
I have a tablespoon of ACV most mornings. It is supposed to be good for a lot of things so I thought I would try it. Not put it on my skin though. I use a lot of essential oils for that these days.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on May 22, 2018, 05:25:32 AM
Summer has finally arrived 8)

Pigs has enjoyed meeting all the new dogs, half of which are beagles :)

Lots of nice young people in the area now.So much better than the antisocial people who used to flood the area..
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 22, 2018, 07:14:20 AM
I still remember your last place how bad it was. Glad you have a nice spot now Frank
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Vienna on May 22, 2018, 08:17:30 AM
Goose fat, tha's gorra use Goose fat eh!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 22, 2018, 11:33:50 AM
So we are onto pate'?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 22, 2018, 07:25:23 PM
I think I love Pluto TV.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 22, 2018, 10:42:46 PM
I don't mind a pluto pup at times
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 22, 2018, 10:54:01 PM
I love coffee.
and chocolate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 23, 2018, 01:05:50 AM
Goes without saying Chick.  ;D

Might make sure I have chocolate in the van this trip, didn't bother last year
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 23, 2018, 12:00:23 PM
Somehow, and I know this might shock, I always have chocolate when I travel.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 23, 2018, 02:10:26 PM
British Army rations always used to contain a tin of chocolate.  This was a sizeable rectangular tin, like a tobacco tin for those who remember such things, and even if it melted and reset during desert days and nights it wouldn't leak.

On the tin it said something along the lines of 'Emergency Chocolate Ration.  To be consumed only when no other food is available.'

It was a bugger to get out of the tin.

We were given some on a survival course.  "Here you go, Lads.  A present from the Queen."  It was ten years past its 'use by' date and still tasted fine.  Maybe because of all the energy expended it getting it out of the tin.

Plus there is a certain sick fascination in watching someone sat on the ground, with the tin in his lap, levering at the solid block with a large knife.  Obsessively watching the tip slide across the rock hard chocolate and wondering if he's going to stab himself in the belly or go for a more precise castration.  He heard bets being made and became even more reckless.

One of the more prudent lads warmed the tin over his fire and then dropped it on the floor as the sides released and the slippery block fell from his grasp.  But he still ate it, despite the leaf-mould and ants.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 23, 2018, 11:06:24 PM
I remember hearing but haven't actually fact checked, that Tootsie Rolls were created to solve the melting problem.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 24, 2018, 03:41:40 AM
Looks like I'll get to work tomorrow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 24, 2018, 11:47:42 AM
I designed a bunch of new shirt decal things lately. Now I need to get them onto shirts before Sistercation starts.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 24, 2018, 12:22:42 PM
When is Sistercation this year?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 24, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
Flying out on June 14. My baby sister and I have the same flight from Atlanta to Phoenix! So we get a bit longer together.

Flying home on July 2 all alone. She found a non-stop direct flight and I have to hop around. Charleston airport is small and doesn't go many places other than other hubs - or across the fence - to warzones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 24, 2018, 09:35:04 PM
#MeToo Movement has Morgan Freeman.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 25, 2018, 06:01:42 AM
Our trips will cross paths for a bit Spell. I'm the end of June but at least I will get to enjoy most of your trip before we leave.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 25, 2018, 11:41:03 AM
I have my sistercation shirt ready and Gned is trying to get off his shelf.

I had to buy a new bathing suit since my old one is so old I was afraid the elastic would crumble making wearing it even worse. But now I'm ready for that, too.

How long are you traveling for this time?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 25, 2018, 11:18:25 PM
Wrote a short chapter today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 26, 2018, 10:20:41 AM
There will be no swimsuit for me, OMG, I am so not a swimmer.  :o

8 weeks roughly mate, going into the desert for a rock concert this year

http://www.bigredbash.com.au/bigredbash/index
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on May 26, 2018, 11:57:58 AM
That looks like a blast, FF! The most remote music festival in the world? Cool. Can't wait to see your pics of those night skies.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 26, 2018, 12:11:43 PM
I would rather swim in possibly crocodile infested water than go amidst the throngs.

Have fun. Post lots of pictures. Include me in your trip. I go do crowds from a distance.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 27, 2018, 12:02:42 AM
This will be our first trip that involves several thousand people all in a bunch I have to say.

I should be interesting and everybody I have spoken to or read about, has enjoyed the trip.

We installed a diesel heater so it doesn't need anymore then a 12 volt power source which is super cool.

Yep you are both in the trip but we are going over a lot of burnt ground so to speak. Have a couple meeting up with us that want to go to a few spots we have been before and asked us to come. They are spots we like so it won't be tiresome.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 27, 2018, 01:35:34 AM
My Dell laptop is working again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 27, 2018, 01:04:18 PM
Sounds like you have a great plan.

I talked to my sister, the one in Arizona, yesterday and she has some plans for us, too. Some on concrete and some are more fluid. But I'm really getting excited about this.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 27, 2018, 07:51:42 PM
I got a mouse working on the Dell.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 27, 2018, 09:23:46 PM
Is this unexpected?  Is it normally mouse-free?  Are congratulations in order?

My Lenovo ThinkPad has a touchpad and a 'pointing device' (a little red button) in the middle of the keypad.  Both of them feel very counter-intuitive compared to a mouse, but the red button could grow on me.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 28, 2018, 12:31:39 AM
Sounds like you have a great plan.

I talked to my sister, the one in Arizona, yesterday and she has some plans for us, too. Some on concrete and some are more fluid. But I'm really getting excited about this.

We are like you guys mostly, set a few nice plans in place then just take it as it comes. Seems much more relaxing and holiday like when we do that
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 28, 2018, 11:00:38 AM
We have been doing Sistercation for more than a decade now and it has gone from a four day long weekend type thing to 2.5 weeks this year.

It would have only been two weeks, but we had some trouble getting home flights because of the dates.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 28, 2018, 11:10:25 AM
[Gyppo strolls into the bar, still feeling slightly disconnected from now by some strange thoughts and memories from last night.  Nothing too dark, but connections he never made at the time.  He glances at the jukebox on his way to coffee and toast and impish thought crosses the sleeping electrons.  By the time he places his order with Bones the box is stirring into life.  The old man smiles... ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3z7Uu8ClYs
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on May 28, 2018, 06:25:27 PM
Ah-ha!  Bones!  I remember you ol' fella!  Could I have a large mug of strong, black tea please... failing that a can of cherry Coke if you wouldn't mind please!

Got an early start back on the studying tomorrow morning after having all of today gadding about with the in-laws and my little nephew!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 28, 2018, 10:55:10 PM
Sounds like rather a pleasant day Amanda. They don't stay little for long do they
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 28, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Let's throw in a joke, and hope it doesn't hit the ground too hard.

A man bought a lie detector robot that slaps people who lie. He decided to test it at dinner:

Dad: "Son, where were you today during school hours?"

Son: "At school." (robot slaps the son and he immediately changes his mind)

"Okay, okay, I went to the movies!"

Dad: "Which one?"

Son: "Harry Potter."  (robot slaps the son again!)

"Okay Alright, I was watching porn."

Dad: "What? When I was your age I didn't even know what porn was!"  (robot slaps dad)

Mom: "Hahahahaha! After all he is your Son!"  (robot slaps Mum.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on May 28, 2018, 11:55:11 PM
Hey lil glo!  When you walking about?  Must be sooooon :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 29, 2018, 12:21:27 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

I like that one Gyp, now to make a crap joke thread

ST at the end of June mate, around the 29th. I will announce it on my Walkabout page on FB before we go but we are well and truly into get ready mode mate  8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 29, 2018, 01:49:32 AM
I was sleeping twice today. Some of Pluto TV's programming is so relaxing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 29, 2018, 02:38:27 PM
We had a birthday party yesterday for a 75 year old. Not nearly the same as either a seven or a five year old. No tears the entire event.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 30, 2018, 03:11:57 AM
Nice. Was it fun?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 30, 2018, 10:47:52 AM
Someone with a warped sense of humour, someone from the days long before Kindles, sneaked in, preloaded the jukebox and set it to repeat this tune.

From when hardback publishing was the ultimate dream, and anything else was seen as somewhat louche and low-brow, even if the writers concerned were 'coining it in' and thus putting their 'base mercenary instincts' on show and ignoring 'real literature' ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvkICbTZIQ
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 30, 2018, 12:04:36 PM
I can deal with people for only so long and parties are within my limit so I had a reasonably good time.

I know that sounds like a not very glowing response, but that's pretty much the best response for peopling I can ever do.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 30, 2018, 09:19:08 PM
"Bones, take this wad of notes and make sure anyone who comes in gets a free drink and/or meal for the next forty-eight hours."

Good result from the post-op cancer tests.

Let's celebrate with something just a 'little raucous...

The Party Ain't Over Yet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2v3wpfQwhI

I'm afraid the neighbours are being treated to something of an old rocker's festival this evening. The hair is definitely down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJt8D2g3lv0

and a couple from from Mott the Hoople.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyJHh451Y4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwVfEXJhQQ

And no celebration of my life would be complete without Steppenwolf laying down a lick or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etwZzv4rQ0&start_radio=1&list=RD6etwZzv4rQ0

and maybe this one is most appropriate of all.

From here to there, eventually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyr1ZImFclc&list=RD6etwZzv4rQ0&index=20

Gyppo (Prancing around like a dancing bear.)





Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on May 31, 2018, 03:36:47 AM
I need to stop dozing off to Pluto TV.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 31, 2018, 08:27:55 AM
 ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-*

Excellent you have had good news mate, that is worth a celebration

Bones, fill it up mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dwin on May 31, 2018, 08:33:07 AM
A toast, Health, Wealth and Happiness in whatever order you want them.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on May 31, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
I kinda like that health bit a lot actually.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on May 31, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Congratulations, dear Gyppo. I've needed some good news. Thanks.

Bones, you know, I think I just might like a coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on May 31, 2018, 12:11:20 PM
Thank you for starting my day with some good news, Gyppo.  :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on May 31, 2018, 06:18:48 PM
Bones?  You still around old chap?  Or am I in the wrong part of the forum?  lol

J2O's all 'round if you wouldn't mind old chap... achieved more than I thought I would today so I'm celebrating!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on May 31, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
Yeah, Bones came over with us.  He sometimes drops by the old place just for old times' sake, but he knows where the real action is.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 01, 2018, 02:59:07 AM
June is coming, baby!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 01, 2018, 03:42:45 AM
June is actually here. 12 hours and 42 minutes ago now so it's officially winter
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 01, 2018, 11:39:19 AM
You still have weeks of fall left.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 01, 2018, 09:12:55 PM
A big glass of cream soda or dandelion & burdock if you wouldn't mind please Bones.  I'm happy with either of 'em so the choice is yours!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 01, 2018, 09:28:25 PM
The trouble is the Dandelion & Burdock as we used to know it has almost vanished from the supermarket shelves.  It'd been replaced with 'Diet' D&B, which is boosted up as containing 'no added sugar'.  But it tastes of chemicals, and some of them make it into 'lunatic soup' for me.  Truly.

I get fed up hearing people tell me it tastes the same, (how the bloody hell can it), or 'Well, it's okay I suppose."

Some people would drink liquid shite from a sewage farm if it was suitably packaged and sold as 'being good for you'.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 01, 2018, 09:46:40 PM
The bottles I buy of D&B aren't diet but they do have no sugar - maybe have a look in Sainsbury's to see what you think of their own brand stuff?   :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on June 01, 2018, 10:58:50 PM
Thanks lil glo. :) I got it all ready. Feels like I'm on a vacation pre-plan too :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 02, 2018, 04:45:28 AM
It feels good to be June!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 02, 2018, 01:15:18 PM
Thanks lil glo. :) I got it all ready. Feels like I'm on a vacation pre-plan too :)

So you doin a tag along with us this year again mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 02, 2018, 01:16:37 PM
Get the champers on ice now, Bones... sometime this afternoon/evening I'll be wanting to celebrate in a very big way!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 02, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
Whats bought this on young lady?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 02, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
At some point this afternoon or evening I'll hopefully have my first ever diploma to add to my CV, FF!  It's only in literally the last 3 or 4 months that I decided to say a big "screw you" to my bullies and give studying at uni a try.  Started with OpenLearn courses and other than the maths and science parts of the courses, I managed to do it.  I even, without realising until it was too late to back out, studied at post-graduate level and I was only just starting to struggle with some of the bits of that!

I'm friends with a retired uni professor and he said that everyone struggles with at least part of their postgraduate course at some time or another, which gave me a major confidence boost.

If you'd told me 6 months ago that I'd be saying this, I'd have laughed in your face, but now I really do genuinely thing I can get my degree in childcare even though I've got brain damage which severely affects my memory!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 02, 2018, 03:15:18 PM
Bones, I hope that Champagne is nicely chilled and the flute dooberries are at the ready because:

I passed first time with a score of 86% and that's without any kind of revision at all and 4 days without any kind of studying at all so I'd forgotten everything!


 ;D


I was going to treat myself to a pdf of my first ever diploma, but they want €65 for the digital version or €96 for the paper version.


I'm proud of myself for getting through it first time but I'm not stupid enough to fork out that much cash!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 02, 2018, 05:46:24 PM
Congratulations.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 02, 2018, 06:10:10 PM
Well done, Amanda.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 03, 2018, 05:26:03 AM
I fell behind.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 03, 2018, 10:04:14 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

You go girl, you have done so well Amanda   :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 03, 2018, 11:36:53 AM
Bones, I need coffee. A nice, large, massive even, cup of coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 03, 2018, 01:00:58 PM
Bones, as always, can provide anything.  Although he summons a minion to deliver it.

"Your drink, Madam."

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on June 03, 2018, 02:26:00 PM
That does look about right for Spell.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 03, 2018, 08:38:11 PM
Thank you. The perfect start to a day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 04, 2018, 01:44:00 AM
I got done in time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 04, 2018, 06:46:54 AM
"Good morning, Folks."  Said with the deadly cheerfulness of someone who has already been up for over an hour, had breakfast out in the back garden, and feels disgustingly full of life.  The birds are singing and it's a wonderful world.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 04, 2018, 11:52:17 AM
Good morning, says the barely awake somewhat sleep deprived person waiting for the coffee to brew.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 04, 2018, 01:37:03 PM
Well done Amanda :)


I am in the South of France for a friend's 50th b-day party.

At his party, one gentleman expressed surprised at how well I speak French and kept asking how I learned to speak so well.

I was a little surprised, because, although I speak French well enough to have a conversation, and understand about 80% of what I hear, I'm not fluent, and my accent is variable.

Another friend said, "he was just trying to get in your knickers"

I wasn't sure whether to be offended that she assumed his compliment couldn't be genuine, or amused at the thought of a random stranger trying to pull in that particular environment (most of the guests were 50 and above, married, with children and many with grandchildren)

It turned out amusement would have been the proper response - he'd actually shown me his toothbrush at the beginning of the evening, but I was too naive to put two and two together. I assumed it meant he was planning to sleep over at the party rather than get a taxi home!

Even when I was in my twenties, I don't remember men showing off toothbrushes as a sign of their intentions. Maybe it's a French thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 04, 2018, 02:41:36 PM
At least now that I'm forewarned, if anyone ever shows me a toothbrush (which is entirely unlikely in any event) I will just bust out laughing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 05, 2018, 04:15:29 AM
I feel cooled down now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 05, 2018, 05:52:50 AM
Toothbrush related stuff makes me gag. I would probably throw up on him  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 05, 2018, 06:03:30 AM
Having it tucked away in your pocket 'just in case' is one thing, but making an issue of it...  Naff.   Not the sort of thing a a Gentleman should do, but then, he was French ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 05, 2018, 11:40:38 AM
I forgot to sleep for most of the night. Looks like a big coffee day. Bones, please. Gyppo left that cup for me, can you fill it up?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 05, 2018, 09:58:15 PM
Hahahahahahaha :)

Toothbrush man wants to friend me on Facebook :)

He must have asked our mutual friend for my surname. Or maybe he just scanned his FB friends (hes super outgoing, so must have hundreds) until he recognised me.

Very strange.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 05, 2018, 11:15:16 PM
I need to know. Did you accept his request?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 05, 2018, 11:56:37 PM
"Bones, a bottle of White Label and a bag of crisps to go, please.  I've been a busy bee today, shifting things around and throwing some things out.  Even did some work in the garden because the garden waste lorry comes tomorrow (monthly visit) to take stuff away.

"In and out like a Fiddler's elbow.  Now I'm winding down ready for sleep.

"See you tomorrow, Folks."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 06, 2018, 02:53:57 AM
I need to know. Did you accept his request?

:)

No.

And I feel very rude.

But I hate Facebook and never use it anyway, so he's not really missing anything :) (I set up an account at the urging of some friends about 15 years ago, immediately noticed how invasive it is, and now treat it a bit like a mangled rat the cat dumps in the bedroom every so often - I'd prefer not to touch it, but sometimes you have to.  I often think about closing the account, but it feels so sinister that it seems easier just to avoid it.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 06, 2018, 04:25:36 AM
Today was much better
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 06, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
I did exactly no writing yesterday. I was worn out from my trip to the gym and justified ignoring the computer on that account. It was a big lie. I just didn't feel like writing.

So today, I will have to write at least twice as much to make up for not writing yesterday although I don't really know if that counts. But it is no gym day, so I'm not already too tired to do anything else.

Amie, I was hoping for pictures of toothbrushes. Le sigh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 06, 2018, 12:29:56 PM
Lots of little aches and pains today.  I guess the silly old bugger overdid it a bit yesterday. 

But what the hell.  I got stuff done.  'Made hay while the sun shone.'  Moving things around is so much easier when it's dry enough to shift stuff outdoors for a while.  Makes it a lot less like one of those sliding tile puzzles.

Plus having both doors and all the windows open helps to clear the dust.

The last thing I did was hoover all through and I got the best part of two tanks full of fine almost talc-like dust as well as all the hair wrapped around the beater bar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaEJzoaYZk

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 06, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
Drinks and snacks are on me until bedtime, Bones... went for me eye test today and not only have I been signed off needing to go again for TWO years (longest since I started wearing glasses at 11!) but I saved potentially hundreds of pounds not only on the frames but the most expensive bit, the lenses were included in the price! 

I was, based on a long experience of opticians (29 years worth of at least yearly visits), expecting to pay getting on for £250-£300 because my sight is so cruddy just for the lenses, another £50 for the test and at least £100 on the frames that I need.  So, if my maths is right, I was thinking it'd cost £400ish yeah?

£27 for everything.  Test, frames and lenses!  Apparently my new glasses will be ready to wear in under 2 weeks too which is even better!

Get those glasses and bottles lined up for everyone, Bones!  I'm celebrating and splashing out tonight!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 07, 2018, 03:56:16 AM
Sims 4 is calling me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 07, 2018, 08:55:46 AM
Wow that is good value Amanda. I go this week too
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 07, 2018, 10:36:42 AM
Good luck with your test too, FF, it's worth it for clear vision!  Still don't like that periferal vision test thingy but I knew what to expect this time and it was more the noise of the machine than the puff of air that made me blink this time!  Go for it, FF!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 07, 2018, 11:27:02 AM
I have my yearly retinology testing done the day after I get back from Sistercation. So far, I've always still had two eyes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 07, 2018, 09:47:18 PM
I hope you still have two eyes when you have the test done this time too, Spell Chick!   ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 07, 2018, 10:31:36 PM
Speaking of eye tests...  That 'puff in the eye' glaucoma test.  The last test I asked the young lady if she could do the 'puffer thing' last.

"I don't see why not.  But why?"

"Because it makes my eyes water for at east half an hour afterwards, which kind of interferes with all the tests you do with all the different lenses in try-on frame."

"Good point.  I wonder why no-one else has mentioned it?"

"Probably because a lot of people are totally passive about anything medical."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 08, 2018, 05:05:43 AM
Finished another season for the year.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 08, 2018, 10:24:42 AM
Bones, the Appletizer's are on me this morning!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 08, 2018, 11:46:15 AM
The puff test has never made my eyes water excessively, so it doesn't matter to me.


Bones, I could use a coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on June 08, 2018, 12:13:04 PM
Make that two, Bones.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Vienna on June 08, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
I could use a pint while I think what can I cook tonight, something special......RIP Anthony Bourdain.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 08, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
2 days later and my new glasses are ready to be picked up!!  That's fast work for any optician!

I've finished revising ready for the end of course assessment too, so I'm just waiting for Steve to get home then I'll charge up Patrick's batteries again and do the assessment while Steve keeps an ear out for the door for my prescription to be delivered.

Get the ice ready, Bones... if I pass the course, drinks will be on me this afternoon!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 08, 2018, 03:06:11 PM
Is it safe to assume Patrick is the name of your computer?  Or do you have some kind of weird  - or perhaps that should say wired - electronic helper?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 08, 2018, 03:31:53 PM
Patrick is my powered wheelchair who is now charging up and Steve's home so I can now get on with the assessment and hope I pass it!

Wish me luck please, all!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 08, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
Bones, get that Appletiser flowing 'cos I passed first time!!

 ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 08, 2018, 04:32:19 PM
Well done ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 08, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
Today we volunteered at the Lowcountry Food Bank, a packing and distribution center for the entire coastal area of South Carolina. They process several millions of tons of food per year. We ourselves did potato packing today. The potatoes arrived from some farms in 2,000 pound bag type things. We had to put the potatoes into smaller boxes of 35 pounds each to be delivered to food pantries and then get to, underserved homes, feeding the hungry.

Another lady and I, with some help from a young man, emptied a 2,000 bag ourselves. She couldn't pick up the 35 pound boxes, but I work out and so ... I lugged at least 1,000 pounds around from where we were to the scale over there.

I like it so much better when we get to put specific cans and boxes of food into boxes for Thanksgiving, but that's not the summer program. So there we were, sorting potatoes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 09, 2018, 03:09:03 AM
Sims 4 calls me again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on June 09, 2018, 07:11:56 AM
There will be no swimsuit for me, OMG, I am so not a swimmer.  :o

8 weeks roughly mate, going into the desert for a rock concert this year

http://www.bigredbash.com.au/bigredbash/index


Awesome!!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on June 09, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Yeah, we're going to insist on full pictorial documentation of this one. I'll probably never do anything that cool so I want enough pics to feel like I've been there myself.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 09, 2018, 05:05:34 PM
32 weeks is 8 months, yeah?  Well, if I get awarded ESA again I'll be working on getting a degree from the OU which apparently takes 32 weeks of 15-18 hours of studying a week, which is, by my probably wrong maths, 3 hours a day for 5-6 days a week... right so far?

I'm thinking that, going by the last few months worth of studying, I'll be able to put in up to 10-12 hours of studying a day so I'll have the week's worth of studying done in 2 days so that I can spend the other 5 days writing my next masterpiece and still manage to keep up with everyone else on the same course as me and still have time to be creative too.

Some of the courses start in March, so 32 weeks from March is October/November which means I can still do NaNo and JanNo as well as having my nose stuck in the books and hopefully passing the courses at the same time.  It'll be hectic but if I time things right, it's definitely do-able!  Just have to hope my muse wants to work to my timetable and doesn't get grumpy with me not being available 24 hours a day any more!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 09, 2018, 06:26:31 PM
It's do-able on paper, but when you're studying and learning you also need time to assimilate what you've learned.  Otherwise it can be like reading a book when you're too tired.  Enjoyable at the time but in the morning you'll hardly remember what it was all about.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 09, 2018, 06:39:59 PM
Today has been one of those days when nothing really seems to get done despite bumbling around.  Probably more noticeable because I've had a fair run of 'productive' days recently.

I can see a couple of spaces in the garden where I've cleared things which have been sat there since I moved in, and I did get some bluebell seeds from the old place planted on a tray in the kitchen window.  But that's about it.

Oh yes, I did brush away a lot of moss the birds had pecked off the roof this morning.

So unless there's a sudden burst of late energy that's it for the day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 09, 2018, 11:33:27 PM
I have a half assembled book case in the living room.  It's a pretty idiot-proof design but when I realised I was screwing one bit of wood into place the wrong way around it struck me that I was more tired then I knew.

I'l finish it tomorrow.  Maybe this is what they call the wisdom of old age ;-)

I was just thinking.  Over the years I've made quite a bit of extra money assembling flat pack furniture for those who can't read or follow instructions.  Or I've dismantled old flat pack units and reassembled them for people when they move house.  Sometimes I've needed to add an extra bit of wood, or use one size thicker screws because the holes have worn loose.

Often I'd find they'd left a few bits out when they put it together originally ;-)

But, the units all seem to be heavier than they used to be.  Which is strange because the wood looks the same thickness.  I can't be getting weak in my old age, surely?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 10, 2018, 12:54:40 AM
And Sims 4 calls me again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 10, 2018, 09:24:22 AM
"Morning, Bones.  Crumpets and coffee, please.  I'll take them out in the garden."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 10, 2018, 10:40:34 AM
Mornin' all!  I'll have a coffee to start me day with if you don't mind please, Bones!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
It always surprises me that people struggle with flat pack furniture assembly. Sometimes the designs are rubbish, or the instructions poor, but never sufficiently so that I've needed to hire someone to figure it out.

Once I hired someone to assemble some flat pack simply because I was running out of time (four wardrobes and sets of drawers needed assembling for a house I was renting out, and there were lots of other things to organise). He spent a day on a single wardrobe, said it was harder than he thought and so would have to increase his price by 5 times (which he claimed was still a bargain, as it was going to take him ten times longer than he originally thought due to "complexity of design"). My husband and I said "no thanks" and did the lot in a single weekend (though admittedly a weekend we would have preferred spending in a different way)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 10, 2018, 11:22:57 AM
Decision time:  Do I start writing another manuscript (in which case, for which age range), do I start studying one of the last 2 free courses I've found or do I just veg out and do precisely nothing?   :-\

Another coffee when you're ready please, Bones!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 12:04:42 PM
Try using a pendulum to decide. Your subconscious will lead you to the right decision:
http://www.wonderfullywomen.com/how-to-use-a-pendulum-to-help-make-decisions/


Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 12:08:19 PM
On a different note, and I the only person who finds it mildly annoying to be told how "lucky" they are to have their partner?

Like, what am I? Chopped liver? Don't I deserve a nice partner? Why isn't he lucky to have me?

He's good-looking and a nice guy. I'm good looking and a nice girl. Don't be so surprised that he'd want to have me.


It's these kinds of attitudes (that I've heard in one form or another since early childhood) that made me deeply ambivalent about relationships, when I was growing up. The presumption was always that good men are a scarce commodity, you'll be lucky to have anyone, you should look for men with flaws (essentially "marked down goods") as marriage material, as there's too much competition for the really good men, that if a man strays it's because of something the woman did wrong (while, at the logic-defying same time being told that it's in their genes and they can't help themselves), that you're "high maintenance" if you want a partner who is kind to you and thinks you're special, etc etc. Growing up hearing this crap made me feel like men and women really aren't that well-suited to each other. Shame I wasn't born a lesbian :(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 10, 2018, 12:19:33 PM
Thank you Amie.  I used to use a pendulum a lot until it was binned accidentally in a forced big clear out along with jewellery that had been handed down for hundreds of years all my previously written and printed out MSs along with too much other stuff that is irreplaceable.

It's a choice between writing an Early Reader with the MC being a teddy or editing the last 2 MSs now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 12:21:11 PM
(in case you're wondering, the mini rant above comes following a conversation with a friend last night, who was marvelling at how lucky I was, "How did you get him? He's so good-looking! You're so lucky! How is it that no one else snapped him up first?")

While on holiday last week, one of his (female) friends said something similar to me. It happens a lot. I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who gets this, or if it's a more common problem? Or maybe I'm a lot uglier and more horrible person than I think I am, and people are just genuinely amazed at the mismatch between us and can't stop themselves wondering aloud.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
You can use any weight tied to a string. Make yourself a new pendulum :)

Thank you Amie.  I used to use a pendulum a lot until it was binned accidentally in a forced big clear out along with jewellery that had been handed down for hundreds of years all my previously written and printed out MSs along with too much other stuff that is irreplaceable.

It's a choice between writing an Early Reader with the MC being a teddy or editing the last 2 MSs now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 10, 2018, 12:29:47 PM
(in case you're wondering, the mini rant above comes following a conversation with a friend last night, who was marvelling at how lucky I was, "How did you get him? He's so good-looking! You're so lucky! How is it that no one else snapped him up first?")

While on holiday last week, one of his (female) friends said something similar to me. It happens a lot. I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who gets this, or if it's a more common problem? Or maybe I'm a lot uglier and more horrible person than I think I am, and people are just genuinely amazed at the mismatch between us and can't stop themselves wondering aloud.

I used to get "you deserve each other" a lot when I first got together with Steve.  Neither of us are much to look at, but our personalities are what made us fall for each other and we're still together 22 years later.  Ignore the jealous arses, Amie, they aren't worth your time!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 10, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
I have been told how lucky I am to have my Dick. I am. I'm also quite sure he is damn lucky to have me. So if the talker gets too effusive on how lucky I am, I simply fisheye them and deadpan, "So's he."

We are lucky in life. We are also unlucky in life. It comes and goes. If you have a long standing relationship you are both lucky and determined and have lasted thru the ups and downs inherent in any long lasting thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 02:04:39 PM
We'll be celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary in September :)

I'll remember that next time: "So's he" :)

I always think it, so I don't know why I never say it ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 10, 2018, 02:08:00 PM
Growing up hearing this crap made me feel like men and women really aren't that well-suited to each other. Shame I wasn't born a lesbian :(

It wouldn't have helped ;-)  I've worked with several over the years and even in that relatively small sample I've seen they are just as prone to gossip and bullshit 'group thinking' as anyone else.  The good ones are good, the bad are truly bad, and the average are, well, just as average as anyone else.

Best advice?  Ignore the petty minded people.  Some folks are just mean-spirited and can't see beyond their own discontent with life.  There is an element of luck in compatible people initially meeting, but after that it's down to working at it to stay compatible and to accept the differences which made them just as appealing as the instant rapport over some things.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 10, 2018, 02:20:38 PM
It always surprises me that people struggle with flat pack furniture assembly. Sometimes the designs are rubbish, or the instructions poor, but never sufficiently so that I've needed to hire someone to figure it out.

Often its because they have crap tools.  If a screwdriver slips as soon as you apply pressure it's never going to provide enough torque to get the screws properly tight.  Alternatively some clumsy git armed with an electric screwdriver, probably bought by his loving partner in the fond hope he will finally assemble the flat-pack which has been leaning against the wall and warping for the last year, will probably over-tighten everything, or strip the screw heads, and create a wobbly edifice.

This is of course the fault of the designers, not the moron who shouldn't be trusted with anything more dangerous than his own fingernails.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 10, 2018, 04:33:08 PM
One of my shirts.
hahahaha
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 08:28:56 PM
I seem to have had another promotion of sorts. No more money or change of responsibilities, but the position has moved up in the hierarchy, so it's now on the same level as my old boss's job, and I'm reporting to her boss.

I'm not sure how I feel about that. I thought we were a good team. And she's an amazing intellect / leader. But maybe she had too many people reporting to her and needed a little breathing space. It's just a lot of change, happening very quickly.

A couple of positives: I'm pretty sure my new line manager thinks highly of me (I don't see that much of him, but I got an exceptional performance award a few years ago and he said lots of glowing things about me when he was announcing the award). And if I ever wanted to find a new job, I look super-important now ;)

ps - one weird thing about it - no one discussed it with me prior to the announcement. I went on holiday, and when I came back, this new organisational structure had been announced. My boss followed up with an email saying, "don't worry, we'll still be working very closely together" - so I thought I'd better have a look to see what she was talking about. And there it was - amidst various changes, I'd been taken out of her team and given my own separate team. I guess senior management didn't discuss it with me because I wasn't going to have a choice anyway?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 10, 2018, 08:31:59 PM
It's just a lot of change, happening very quickly.

Change can be unsettling, especially if it seems to come from nowhere.   But it's good to be wanted.

Congratulations.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 10, 2018, 08:35:18 PM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 10, 2018, 09:27:37 PM
Huge congrats, Amie!   ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 11, 2018, 03:42:39 AM
Thanks Amanda :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 11, 2018, 03:44:15 AM
Vacation is coming up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on June 11, 2018, 08:33:20 AM
Well my portable AC(5,000 btu() works great,I put her thru the paces. Wasn't terribly hot but my place cooled down about 5 degrees. In hindsight a larger model would've been better, I'll just need a fan to help push air along..

I've never liked the old models that used to dry the air rapidly, lots of stuffy noses etc. 

Pigs was so damned frisky ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 11, 2018, 11:46:30 AM
It's far better to be surprised by a promotion than to be surprised by a demotion or firing. It's annoying when things change, but if they didn't, we would still be living in caves. Congratulations


Frank, I'm glad you are one of the cool guys now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 11, 2018, 03:26:41 PM
Argos must have a pretty good idea of the way some inept people put together their flat-pack furniture.

I've just had an email thanking me for purchasing the tall bookcase, and offering support.

They mean well...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on June 11, 2018, 10:35:33 PM
A handyman I an not :o
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Post by: Noizchild on June 11, 2018, 11:32:01 PM
Rewriting some orders right now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 12, 2018, 11:52:48 AM
I have an order.

Bones, some coffee please.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 12, 2018, 02:20:37 PM
Appletizer's all round if you wouldn't mind please, Bones!

I've just put the final full stop in a manuscript I've been putting off since the weekend so I'm celebrating right now!

Just gotta come up with an original name for a teddy bear as the main character for my next manuscript now... I was thinking Ted E Bear but it's been used in a picture book so don't wanna step on anyone's toes, even though the MS will be an early reader instead of a PB... any ideas anyone?  Please?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 12, 2018, 03:05:02 PM
Voting in our state today. A primary election.
I went straight from the gym. I was pretty much a mess. It was double unders which just ruin my lovely hairdo. My face was all red from the 100 push ups. I was a total stinky mess.

Our voting booths are computers and depending on your district and political party (because it's a primary), a different screen needs to be accessed. So a worker pulls up the correct screen. As she stood next to me, she asked, "Is it getting hot outside?"

I told her I came straight from the gym and for me, it was hot all over. She mentioned it was all good and they didn't have a dress code. Apparently, she didn't like my outfit.

But I got my "I Voted" sticker anyway. So it's all good.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 12, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
If they had a dress code for voting the British turnout would be even lower than it already is.  Unless some press campaign fooled people into believing it was important to be seen voting.  In which case there would be a sudden influx of the kind of folks who change their clothes six times a day, and put up makeup before they even go to the toilet, just in case they meet someone in their that they know.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 13, 2018, 12:02:50 AM
All voting is compulsory here in Oz
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Post by: Noizchild on June 13, 2018, 02:45:41 AM
Today was boring, but I finished Erased on Netflix.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 13, 2018, 07:21:06 AM
Another long-lost item has surfaced in the tidy up.  I found my machete.  It's been missing for at least ten years.  The last place I remembered using it was at an ex's place and I didn't particularly want to go and visit her again.

I didn't seriously miss it because when youngest daughter was working in Tanzania she brought home a Panga for me, which is like a machete on steroids, so I didn't need the original for hacking hedges etc.

But it's good to have it back.  I may well hang it up on a magnet by the front door, well out of my Grandaughter's reach.

Until then it can help with the overgrown end of the garden ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 13, 2018, 11:20:48 AM
I left my machete at my Ex's place
sounds like
I left the murder weapon at the scene

Must have been an amicable breakup.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 13, 2018, 05:35:41 PM
I've been presenting at a conference today. It was really nice, because several people came up to me after my presentations and said I was amazing :)

(It's a scientific conference, but in my head I'm doing stand-up. I think they aren't as used to people making technical stuff funny :) )
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 13, 2018, 06:14:46 PM
They'll probably remember what you told them for far longer than if it had been a 'dry' presentation.

Cast your mind back to school.  Which lessons 'stuck' the most?  Which teachers could make even the most mundane subjects interesting?  Enthusiasm shines through.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 13, 2018, 06:16:13 PM
It is wonderful to be appreciated.
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Post by: Amie on June 13, 2018, 11:30:35 PM
Yes, it really is :)

It's funny because I used to be really (almost literally painfully) shy, right into my thirties. And I chipped away at it and chipped away at it, because I hated being shy. My greatest fear was that I might bore people. And then at some point (maybe early 40s), I realised that people think I'm funny. So I decided to run with it. I'm never quite sure whether people are laughing with me or at me ;) - but at least they don't get bored. Or claim not to ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on June 14, 2018, 01:59:25 AM
Today I witnessed a snapping turtle laying eggs next to a busy bike path :-*

With all the dog walkers it'll be a miracle if any live long enough to hatch ;)

Truly one of the most amazing things I've seen all year
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 14, 2018, 03:04:40 AM
Has anyone ever tried yWriter?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 14, 2018, 06:54:48 AM
Poor turtle! It's a shame she didn't choose a better location.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Dwin on June 14, 2018, 08:19:54 AM
Went to a beach in Oman to watch the turtles hatch and crawl towards the sea, it was truly amazing. It took place at night and we weren't allowed torches or any form of light because that attracts the hatchlings to you and not the reflected moonlight off the sea.

I spoke to other people that went to other beaches outside the reserve, that my daughter and I went to, they had a totally different experience. Obviously there are people who are just in it for the money and don't fully understand the mechanics behind it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on June 14, 2018, 08:52:21 AM
All voting is compulsory here in Oz

I understand the thinking behind compulsory voting, but I think it's terribly mistaken.  If people can't be bothered to vote, or don't know what to vote for, what is their opinion worth?  I'd be inclined to veer the other way, and make people take a simple test before they were allowed to vote.  Who knows, it might have the effect of raising poll percentages.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 14, 2018, 09:14:45 AM
Has anyone ever tried yWriter?

A long time ago.  I didn't actively dislike it, but it didn't suit the way my mind works.  Writing software, outliners, etc, is very much a personal thing.  I just like a simple processor, real paper Post It notes stuck all over the whiteboard on the wall, and suchlike.  It suits me.

For me most productivity or pre-planning software feels as if it comes between me and what I'm writing.  A bit like doing fine craftwork wearing gloves.  You can still get there, but it lacks the instinctive feel which I find important.

Most of writing is done in your head, even if you regularly tip it out onto the page to check it out and see it as the readers would see it.

The best advice for any writing software is to take it for a test drive.   Give it a decent chance, unless it annoys you almost straight away in which case trust your instincts and dump it.

It needs to be fairly instinctive.  If you have to spend too much time consciously thinking about it then you are working for the software instead of it working for you.  This is not what writing is about.

If it suits you, you'll love it and become a fan.  If not you can put it behind you and move on without always wondering.  A bit like life in general.

Best wishes,

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 14, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Has anyone ever tried yWriter?

It's a writing must-have for me!  Been using it for several years and couldn't be without it any more!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 15, 2018, 02:41:13 AM
I have it installed and yEditor too.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on June 15, 2018, 04:06:06 AM
Poor turtle! It's a shame she didn't choose a better location.
Well at least she played them on a hill above the river and not across the bike path..she was easily 16 inches by 14 wide and a foot thick :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 15, 2018, 04:14:15 PM
I have it installed and yEditor too.

Oooh!  What's yEditor like please?  This is the first time I've heard of it and need all the help I can get with editing!  lol
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 16, 2018, 01:36:46 AM
I will try it out over vacation.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 16, 2018, 09:02:04 AM
The way I use yWriter is to plan out each chapter and scene then write it in Word.  I think you can, in theory, write the whole MS in yWriter, I just prefer to use Word... try it out and see what works best for you   :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 21, 2018, 03:42:22 PM
First week of Sistercation is upon me. I am having quite a bit of fun here but miss my baby sister.

We have texted and talked several times. Steve is doing better. His neurologist believes he will get some or most of his vision back eventually but that could take up to a year.

I thought I would check in from Arizona just because I could and I didn't want you to think I've forgotten about you all.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 21, 2018, 09:56:28 PM
I can imagine how being a sister down would change the feel of your trip mate. Glad you been able to keep her up to date though.

Excellent Steve news though and a year goes too bloody quick these days x o
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Post by: Gyppo on June 22, 2018, 12:05:07 AM
Good news about Steve.

Bed time for me.  It's been a long day since 4am.  Including visiting a place I've not been for 62 years.

See you all later.
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Post by: Amie on June 22, 2018, 07:39:34 PM
I hope Steve gets even more good news. Love to you and your sisters.
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Post by: Amie on June 23, 2018, 08:34:35 PM
I went to the People's Vote March in London today. It was the first time I've ever been to a march in my life (and I'm old enough to be a granny)

I didn't want to Brexit, but when the vote result was announced, initially I accepted it (very very sadly, but I accepted it). The more news comes out about what a catastrophe it will be for the UK economy, I can't believe the govt is going ahead with it.

It was nice seeing so many people (met police said 500,000) joining together. Apologies to any pro-Brexit peeps - I just love this country and don't want to see it destroyed.

It was a really nice day :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 24, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
I think I'm the only one in the bar these days - I guess I'm that lone drunk in the corner talking to myself ;)

I might have to fire one of my employees :(

He's very new (<3 weeks) but is already showing a lack of respect for other people's roles, and an inflexible mindset that suggests he can't accept that others might know more than he does, even when he is totally new.  Also, he's not doing the job he was hired for.

It's weird, because on the surface he is very nice - very well-spoken and polite and so on...  but at the same time he is very dismissive of anything outside his expertise, and assumes he understands a very complex subject, that takes most people two years full time to master, from day one. On Friday he told me that one of the key aspects of the job is "irrelevant" (not because it is, but because he doesn't understand how all the data sets fit together. After I explained to him why it is extremely relevant, he said I'd given him too much information for one day and he left our meeting two hours early)

Sigh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 24, 2018, 08:43:43 PM
I might have to fire one of my employees :(

He's very new (<3 weeks) but is already showing a lack of respect for other people's roles, and an inflexible mindset that suggests he can't accept that others might know more than he does, even when he is totally new.  Also, he's not doing the job he was hired for.

Sigh.

I guess that leaves only two real options then.

Give him a short sharp ultimatum and a couple more weeks just to see if he bites the bullet, then sack him if he doesn't.

Or just sack him anyway if he's disrupting the team.

Maybe this is part of why you got your recent promotion, so those higher up the ladder can see if you've got the stomach for the sometimes necessary hatchet work.

Best wishes, whichever way it goes.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 25, 2018, 04:16:06 AM
Never a good position to be in Amie, you'll make the right decision  :-*
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Post by: Amie on June 25, 2018, 06:49:58 AM
I'm almost wondering if he might be preparing to quit. The first meeting I organised for him (an induction day), he double-booked a conference and I only found out from our PA (he'd accepted my meeting request, even though he was already planning to be at the conference). The second time, I booked the meeting from 11-5. At 12:30 I suggested we break for 45 minutes for lunch (we are both remote working, so this was a teleconference and we couldn't have lunch together). But when I tried to phone him back after lunch, he wasn't there, and he didn't return for the rest of the day. So I booked the following week - and when I suggested we break for lunch, he said he just wanted to continue (which is a bit inconsiderate to me, but never mind) - then an hour later, he said he was tired and it was too much information for him, so he ended our meeting two hours early.

He only works part time, and has chosen Saturday as one of his working days. We allow people some flexibility in their working hours, as long as they have some time during the week when they can attend meetings, so that isn't a problem in itself. But when he truncated our call (Friday), I asked him if he would be able to get through all the items in his inbox the next day, and he was a bit vague and said he'd prefer to wait until our next meeting. And I said we have a service level agreement with the other teams where we need to respond to their requests within a week, so it wouldn't be acceptable to wait a week.

Sunday I checked, and he hadn't touched a single thing in his inbox. I had a single email from him, asking why one of the items was in there as he'd "done it already" (he had, but he'd done it incorrectly, and I'd spent the previous day showing him how to do it correctly, so I was expecting it to be re-done)

I think, because he's a doctor and I gather very respected in his field, he might have some status issues in his head. He did say something to me right at the start that suggested he thought he should be reporting to one of the surgeons (who also reports to me), rather than to me, and he seems to keep dismissing the work of the other scientists and engineers as "irrelevant" or not of interest to him.

Now I've written all that out, he sounds like a monster - but, odd as it may seem, he's actually very pleasant. I guess he probably has a very nice bedside manner. But so far, he seems to kind of suck at the job we've hired him for...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 26, 2018, 05:34:38 AM
I am happy just to be back.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 26, 2018, 10:36:59 AM
Amie - JMHO but I'd say to him "you've got until Friday to do what we're paying you to do or that's it.  We hired you to do a job that you've barely touched and show absolutely no respect to me.  I've tried to help you and you've obviously ignored me... you've got until Friday to drastically improve or you've lost your job and we won't be writing a positive reference for you either".  Lay it out there in an email so that he knows that he's got to improve before Friday or he's out of a job.  It's all very well having a good bedside manner but he's not doing the job you're paying him to do, so he's breaking a large chunk of his contract that he signed so you are quite within your rights to fire him!

JMHO of course!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 27, 2018, 12:29:00 AM
Quiet in here today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on June 27, 2018, 03:53:19 AM
I am packing for the Walkabout  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 27, 2018, 04:37:48 AM
I need to blow my nose.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 27, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
Blimmin' hayfever is gonna be awful today... me eyes are already watering, me nose is blocked and can't stop coughing and sneezing!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 27, 2018, 06:22:47 PM
Amie - JMHO but I'd say to him "you've got until Friday to do what we're paying you to do or that's it.  We hired you to do a job that you've barely touched and show absolutely no respect to me.  I've tried to help you and you've obviously ignored me... you've got until Friday to drastically improve or you've lost your job and we won't be writing a positive reference for you either".  Lay it out there in an email so that he knows that he's got to improve before Friday or he's out of a job.  It's all very well having a good bedside manner but he's not doing the job you're paying him to do, so he's breaking a large chunk of his contract that he signed so you are quite within your rights to fire him!

JMHO of course!

I told him that he would need to complete his training by next Friday, and booked this Friday with him to complete it.

He then told me he had another engagement (consultancy for another company!) from 10-11, but could meet with me from 12-5.

I said, "in future, please don't book other professional engagements on your office days with us"

We'll see how it goes. I'm keeping an open mind until we can talk.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 28, 2018, 04:35:36 AM
Lucifer is going to Netflix.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 28, 2018, 09:26:44 AM
Amie - JMHO but I'd say to him "you've got until Friday to do what we're paying you to do or that's it.  We hired you to do a job that you've barely touched and show absolutely no respect to me.  I've tried to help you and you've obviously ignored me... you've got until Friday to drastically improve or you've lost your job and we won't be writing a positive reference for you either".  Lay it out there in an email so that he knows that he's got to improve before Friday or he's out of a job.  It's all very well having a good bedside manner but he's not doing the job you're paying him to do, so he's breaking a large chunk of his contract that he signed so you are quite within your rights to fire him!

JMHO of course!

I told him that he would need to complete his training by next Friday, and booked this Friday with him to complete it.

He then told me he had another engagement (consultancy for another company!) from 10-11, but could meet with me from 12-5.

I said, "in future, please don't book other professional engagements on your office days with us"

We'll see how it goes. I'm keeping an open mind until we can talk.

I would have told him then and there not to bother turning up for work the next day... oh yeah, he doesn't anyway!!! 

You seem to have much more patience with him than me!  How about issu(e??)ing him with a verbal warning and tell him that if he gets another one he's fired?  He seems to be taking advantage of you, Amie, and keeps pushing you to see how far is too far... he wants to see which buttons he can safely push and get away with... taking advantage of your kind, understanding, supportive nature as much as he can   :( 

You're his boss and he's taking advantage of you, don't let him get away with it any longer - come down on him like a tonne of bricks and don't accept his excuses any more... you can do this, Amie, I believe in you!   :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 28, 2018, 03:21:16 PM
I like to give people chances. I think possibly he's just misunderstood what "flexibility" means. He's apologised now for the misunderstanding, and promised not to book any other engagements during his office hours with us.

The real test will be billing. He needs to do a certain number of billable hours per week, and complete all reviews without 7 days of receiving them, to the standard we require. If he doesn't do that, he'll be out.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 28, 2018, 06:43:04 PM
I should have said also: part of the problem is that, yes, he is taking the piss by not being available for training. But I don't think he got how important the training is - he's a doctor, he's used to turning up and automatically being qualified to do any job assigned to him. Now I'm telling him he doesn't know everything (something doctors aren't used to being told).

It's true I didn't have this problem with my other reports, who are all totally lovely. But, everyone's different. I think if I were used to the sort of adulation doctors get, I might be a little arrogant too ;)

My conversation with him today, he seems to be starting to get it. I just hate to cut people off without being sure that there has been adequate communication and opportunity to improve.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 29, 2018, 04:19:05 AM
I haven't been able to play Sims since I updated it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 29, 2018, 08:58:13 AM
Sounds like a bonus to me.  One less distraction from the real world of writing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on June 29, 2018, 02:01:05 PM
Amie, I've been vacationing and missed your whole cunundrum. But this should have been the day of reckoning, so what happened? Does the guy still have a job?

It's difficult to learn you don't know everything no matter how many degrees you have or how old you are or how experiened you are. I hope he can learn this hard lesson.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 29, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
It sounds like you are a really understanding, supportive boss, Amie... I hope the doctor realises that he's used up all his chances now and works hard to turn around how he works for you now that he knows exactly what he's supposed to be doing for his job!  WTG boss-lady!   :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 29, 2018, 07:41:55 PM
Amie, I've been vacationing and missed your whole cunundrum. But this should have been the day of reckoning, so what happened? Does the guy still have a job?

It's difficult to learn you don't know everything no matter how many degrees you have or how old you are or how experiened you are. I hope he can learn this hard lesson.

It went well today. He was polite, he listened, and asked questions. I think he is starting to get it. I cleared up some misunderstandings for him - he said he was relieved to discover he was wrong (he had some misconceptions that were worrying him, which may have explained some of what seemed like arrogance).

(edited due to too much info!)

So, I feel better about him today than I did yesterday, but we're not totally in the clear. Fingers crossed that it all works out for the best.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 29, 2018, 07:47:22 PM
It sounds like you are a really understanding, supportive boss, Amie... I hope the doctor realises that he's used up all his chances now and works hard to turn around how he works for you now that he knows exactly what he's supposed to be doing for his job!  WTG boss-lady!   :D

Thanks Amanda :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on June 29, 2018, 07:58:24 PM
That's why you're a boss and I'm not!  lol  I hope things work out from now on and that the doctor takes what you've said to him seriously.   ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 29, 2018, 11:53:47 PM
It's been a long hot day, with much travel on buses, and the lady at the hospital had trouble getting blood out of me.  It took three goes.

"Bones, a bottle to go, please."

See you all tomorrow.

[Ambles off to his bed.]

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on June 30, 2018, 12:04:33 AM
I will get done in time. I will get done in time!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 30, 2018, 05:32:56 AM
It's been a long hot day, with much travel on buses, and the lady at the hospital had trouble getting blood out of me.  It took three goes.

I suppose that would be a good thing, if you ever had a serious flesh wound?

I remember a nurse once trying to take a significant amount of blood from me for tests. After she'd filled several test tubes, my veins had clamped up in both arms  and she resorted to trying to essentially milk my arms like a cow's teat. She said sometimes people's bodies just say "no" to having blood taken.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 30, 2018, 10:03:14 AM
I was lucky in that this particular test only calls for one tube, but a well filled one.

The basic problem was dehydration.  Despite drinking plenty of water in the couple of hours before it just sweated straight back out yesterday.  I knew there might be a problem because the usually quite prominent veins on the back of my hands weren't very obvious.

After she got nowhere with both arms I offered to let her try the back of my hand.

"I was hesitant to suggest it, but it's probably going to be the only way today."

"Well, I don't like it, but I don't want to have to come back for a while."

So I made a fist, the vein popped up, she got the needle in, and when I relaxed my hand it flowed like a goodun.

She stuck the little plaster on telling me to leave it for half an hour, but it fell off before I even got outside.  It didn't leak, and there's no bruising.  I'm guessing my blood didn't reckon much to the weather outside either ;-)

When I was waiting to go in several people came out with the inside of their elbow looking as if it had done ten rounds with Mike Tyson and I was beginning to wonder if only butchers were on duty.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on June 30, 2018, 04:10:50 PM
I had to fill 18 vials for the blood tests! It was at about vial 16 that my arms said they’d had enough, but the nurse managed to get just enough through her assiduous milking technique.

I learned today that I could get Armenian citizenship just for being of Armenian ancestry. I wonder if Armenia will ever be part of the EU? I wonder if there would be any downside to having an Armenian passport?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on June 30, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
Bloody hell, Amie.  Pun not intended, but joyfully embraced once I realised what I'd just written.

One of the ladies waiting to go in had four of those cards they fill out saying what tests they're going to run, and at a rough glance they each had three or four lines of instruction compared to my modest one.  I guess she was in for some serious bloodletting.

The most they ever took from me, back before my operation when they were still not 100% sure of their diagnosis, was seven, and some of them were quite small samples.

Passports:  As long as you can have both you could carry both and present whichever seems appropriate.

Downside?  I imagine that presenting an Armenian passport at a Turkish passport control could well be be seen by some kinds of officials as a deliberate challenge, just as an Israeli passport would still be like a red rag to a bull to some Germans.

But a British passport no longer carries the same 'Don't mess with me' authority it once had, so it's a moot point.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 01, 2018, 01:55:20 AM
I'm comparing editors right now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 01, 2018, 10:43:17 AM
(Edited cos I shouldn’t pontificate about politics or what weird animals humans are ;) )
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 02, 2018, 12:33:46 AM
Now, I am curious.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 03, 2018, 01:47:12 PM
I don't know about politics, but humans are certainly weird animals.

I got home safely. I slept in my own bed last night. I liked it.

It was a wonderful vacation. We spoke with Cheri several times and Steve continues to improve. She could not have made this trip. She was needed at home.

Sistercation was supposed to be here this year, but when Pam decided to bring Aunt Babe to Arizona, I knew she wouldn't be able to get away this year. She wouldn't have and she would have been miserable here. So, my decision to not host worked out for her, too.

She kept saying "When you are here next February" which I had planned on last February but wasn't leaning towards now that I've flown out there twice in a year ... I guess I'm going to Arizona again in February. Who knew?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 03, 2018, 02:05:20 PM
Good to hear that Steve continues to get better.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 03, 2018, 03:12:52 PM
Alas, I think I may need to sack the new guy after all.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 03, 2018, 03:46:46 PM
You can only allow someone so much rope before they hang themselves.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 03, 2018, 04:07:17 PM
It’s weird. He seems to have taken great offence to me asking why he didn’t do any work on Saturday (I was very polite about it - I asked if he had connection troubles, or maybe Saturdays were no longer suitable for him? And I offered to change the day for him). And I got a snippy emai back saying we weren’t off to a good start if I was already arguing with him and not treating him with trust and courtesy.

So, I’m going to ask HR the appropriate process for sacking (for any US peeps reading and wondering, it’s a little trickier firing people in the UK than in the US, but he’s still in his probation period so it shouldn’t be as difficult now as it would be 6 months from now)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 03, 2018, 04:29:05 PM
Here in the US, it's a bit trickier after probationary times to fire people even if they are At Will workers. So we might not be as surprised as you think.

I'm sorry he isn't working out.

BTW, trust is earned and he didn't do anything to earn any. Having a fancy title and college degree doesn't automatically translate into trust. And if he didn't work during the times he said he was remotely working, then not only did he not earn your trust, he earned your distrust.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 03, 2018, 04:40:41 PM
Thanks Patti, I agree.

And I’ve got loads of people with even fancier degrees and titles than he has, and they do the work and are available when they say they will be. I keep thinking he must think this is like an honorary board position, where you get paid just cos the company thinks it looks impressive to have you on their books (wish I could get me some of them gigs ;) ). As my boss said to me recently, we don’t work that way. We have real work to do, and lots of it, and we can’t afford to carry dead weight or prima donnas.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 03, 2018, 04:42:03 PM
I hasten to add, she wasn’t talking about me in reference to dead weight or prima donnas ;) - she was supporting me in this tough decision. (Thought it looked like I’d got a dressing down and had then turned around and dumped on the next guy ;) )
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 03, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
I said right near the beginning that you were being tested ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 03, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
This is a long session.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 04, 2018, 01:55:36 PM
My retina is doing okay. I have old eyes, which isn't really surprising, considering the rest of the package. My cataract is getting bothersome enough to do something fairly soon.

The best part of this whole doctor visit is the vegetable dye they inject for the angiogram turn pee into neon yellow fluid. It lasts the rest of the day and is pretty damn exciting if your life is as boring as mine can be.

I slept for ten hours last night, so maybe I'm not in the correct time zone. That would be good. I like all my systems in the same time zone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 04, 2018, 02:15:30 PM
Dad had some pills for a kidney complaint one time which made his urine a deep purple colour.  This was back in the days when the gents urinal in most places was just one long trough rather than little individual urinals with their own bit of plastic plumbing.  Posh ones had 'modesty panels'.

Dad went haring into the pub toilet and the only space was at the upstream end of the trough.  There were half a dozen other men already peeing, staring resolutely 'eyes front' as we tend to, but he said all the heads turned in sequence to look at him as the purple stream flowed past them to the drain hole.

The poor chap was so embarrassed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 04, 2018, 09:09:42 PM
Hub’s dad is not well. He’s nearly 90, so not unexpected. The doctors were saying he wouldn’t come home from hospital, but he has. I’m not sure he’s happy about it.

Doctors tell you there’s something to do with “fighting spirit” or will to live or some such. But my dad died at 78, and he wanted to live, was fighting to live. P’s dad is just the opposite, says he’s sick of living, sick of being in pain, sick of being old - but he’s still going despite not having that “fighting spirit”

There are some cruel hamsters running the wheel of life.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 05, 2018, 01:03:45 AM
No going out for fireworks tonight. I will have to see them from home. Or try to.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 05, 2018, 12:18:32 PM
For ten years, we had fireworks out our front window every damn night. They lost their allure in there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 05, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
I ate something which disagreed with me and have been sick. I hate that more than almost any (routine, non-life threatening) illness I can think of. I’d make a terrible bulimic.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 06, 2018, 01:57:16 AM
I think I may have been inadvertently poisoned. I went out to dinner with colleagues last night, and my risotto tasted like it had a small bottle of perfume poured in it, I only ate a few spoonfuls before declining it was inedible. My colleagues also complained that the risotto was terrible, but cleaned their plates. I wonder how they are doing? In addition to the vomiting, now every muscles in my body aches, my joints ache, my husband says I am burning up but I feel really really cold and am huddled under blankets shivering on this hot July evening.

Ugh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 06, 2018, 02:18:49 AM
Maybe the doctor has been reading your posts on here and had poisoned you.

Hopefully not, and you'll be well again soon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 06, 2018, 05:20:22 AM
I need to go shopping tomorrow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 06, 2018, 11:57:11 AM
Maybe it was some kind of telekinetic poisoning.

Spoke this morning to two of my colleagues who also had the risotto, and they seem fine, so it must have just been me. I seem to be past the worst of it now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 06, 2018, 12:11:28 PM
Did their risotto taste funny, too?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 06, 2018, 12:16:01 PM
Yes, they said it tasted awful. But they finished theirs, whereas I’d decided after a few mouthfuls that it was not edible. It tasted like maybe 20% of it was dishwashing soap.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 06, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
Maybe it was.  Perhaps someone in the restaurant is working their notice.  Which is why in catering 'fired' usually means get your coat and get out the door.  There's too much scope for resentment. to cause mischief.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on July 06, 2018, 03:25:07 PM
Some years ago, a young man was fired from a bakery, and spent his last hour there making mischief.  Which wasn't discovered until the local WI opened the cake box for somebody's birthday and found the word SEX written on it in bright pink icing.

Which amused the hell out of me, for two separate reasons.  Because no one had thought to check what he was parcelling up on his last afternoon in the bakery.  And because the worst thing a rebellious young man could think to write on a cake was Sex.  I just felt his education had been neglected.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 06, 2018, 03:55:49 PM
There are just so many words that are more shocking for just a 33% increase in size ... you would think one of those more sanctioned words would have hit the fan.


I just listed to a podcast by a couple psychologists. They said we teach small children not to swear/use dirty words because it keeps them busy breaking that unimportant rule or trying to not get caught breaking the rule so they don't have time and/or energy to get into real trouble. I thought that was rather interesting.

The kids had a rule to play with and work around and feel rebellious and powerful and yet, they aren't getting into real trouble.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 06, 2018, 06:12:39 PM
Shopping done.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 07, 2018, 08:54:07 PM
My brother-in-law remarked today that his youngest son (age 2j is peculiarly particular - for example, he refuses to eat his cornflakes if they are not levelled out to his satisfaction prior to the milk being added. If you miss this step, he throws a tantrum and refuses to eat (apparently one of many examples).

I said, “oh, so he’s like his granddad then” (his granddad being very particular and unable to cope with small deviations in routine).

My BIL recognised the comparison I was drawing immediately, but seemed surprised, as if it had never occurred to him before. He was like, “Oh, blimey, that’s where he gets it from!”

How can you grow up with a dad who is extremely Asperger’s-y particular, and not notice when the same weird characteristics appear in your own son?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 07, 2018, 09:18:19 PM
Maybe because to people in the family it soon becomes perfectly normal.  Dad's 'funny little ways', provided they aren't destructive, are accepted as if they were a mild limp, or a quizzical cast of the eyebrows.  "It's just the way he is."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 07, 2018, 10:54:31 PM
I'm going to a cookout in a few minutes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 07, 2018, 11:06:32 PM
Maybe because to people in the family it soon becomes perfectly normal.  Dad's 'funny little ways', provided they aren't destructive, are accepted as if they were a mild limp, or a quizzical cast of the eyebrows.  "It's just the way he is."

I dunno. To me it’s more like, your dad has a massive purple dot of his forehead, and your son is born with a massive purple dot on his forehead, and you say to people, “it’s so weird, where did my son get this massive purple dot from?” And someone says, “Doesn’t your dad have a massive purple dot?” and then you suddenly notice again what you’ve noticed for over 40 years and make a connection akin to noticing that the sun causes the sky to be illuminated...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 08, 2018, 12:05:32 PM
I found a way to busy my hands. I've been crocheting baby blankets. I found this yard that is variegated in very long pieces and a corner to corner pattern using that yarn and it makes beautiful baby blankets to donate to needy kids.

My father was never going to run out of anything. He bought in quantity before Costco even was the gleam in anyone's eye. We still had enough paper towels to supply three households for six months after he died and he had been sick for seven years before that. But the attic was still stocked. He had seven depth finders for fishing. He was a quantity shopper.

I told my sister about the blanket stuff. She went and bought some yarn. And then the next day she went back and bought some more. Neither of us has as much yarn stored away as the older sister whose entire house is filled with yarn and basket weaving reed stuck into nooks and crannies everywhere.

Every time we over buy, we notice we are behaving very Dad like.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 08, 2018, 04:45:48 PM
That’s a lovely looking baby blanket.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 09, 2018, 03:49:53 AM
I predict a riot.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 09, 2018, 07:49:49 AM
It's too hot for a riot.

(As a postman I wasn't the only one who noticed normally stroppy dogs would just hide under the step panting when it was really hot.  But thundery weather made them unpredictable, just like us.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 09, 2018, 12:05:36 PM
When it gets too hot and the conditions are too crowded, we Americans just riot cuz we're cranky. Lots of inner city apartments don't have air conditioning and so, you might as well be outside, breaking windows and whatnot.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 09, 2018, 09:40:35 PM
Visited my in-laws this weekend. My FIL was in hospital and predicted not to leave (he’ll be 90 this year). However, he was home, and seeming healthier than last time I saw him - but very unhappy and lacking any interest in life.

I’ve never got on with my FIL, but it’s sad seeing him so frail and unhappy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 09, 2018, 11:49:08 PM
My sister reported my 91 year old aunt was shocked at how "bad" and "frail" her older sister looked - you know, the 94 year old.

My 96 year old mother in law would probably have just laughed at that.

I do not want to live that long. It actually scares me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 10, 2018, 03:11:44 AM
Ring my bell, baby.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 10, 2018, 06:16:42 AM
Ding, Dong ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 10, 2018, 11:52:33 AM
My sister in Arizona is used to the dry heat. But it is monsoon season which sounds really stupid in the desert, but there you have it. Last night they had a storm which started as a dust storm and then the rain started.

Trees were down, carports were shredded with one being actually relocated. My sister lost a dead branch on the mesquite tree on the side of her house. But her house and carport are all good. Aunt Babe was there and her mobility scooter was out in the dust storm but when the wind kicked up higher and it started to rain, Pam backed her van out and got the scooter under the carport, mostly because it has an extra attached roof/sunshield that was going to make it possible to blow over and smash her roses.

She had the little girls with her and they were excited by the storm and not scared. I'm not sure about the 91 year old. I am sure they have better storms in Texas.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 11, 2018, 02:58:26 AM
I think I might have a problem with the charger when it reaches the 60% range.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 11, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
No gym today. Just laundry today. I would prefer gym to laundry. Just saying.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 12, 2018, 04:50:44 AM
I had a long day today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 12, 2018, 03:35:43 PM
I made a dozen branded tote bags yesterday.
I'm in the process of making four shirts for two women competing in an event in the near future.

I was asked if I would help make shirts to sell to gym members with the proceeds going to buy some gym equipment for ourselves.

I'm turning into a businesswoman.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 12, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
It's amazing how quiet it gets in here when Firefly's on walkabout.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 13, 2018, 03:46:17 AM
I think I need a new charge chord.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 13, 2018, 11:50:58 AM
She is a blabbermouth


and right now she seems to be either very busy or out of range of the internet since she isn't posting any new pictures anywhere.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 13, 2018, 12:04:29 PM
If even The Fly can't find an unsecured connection to piggyback then she must be really out in the wilds.  Bet she's loving it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 13, 2018, 12:18:49 PM
I'm looking forward to some great pictures when she steals some ether.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on July 13, 2018, 11:31:00 PM
Don't count on pics. I think she plans to hide the evidence.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 14, 2018, 02:53:13 AM
I have an idea for a new play.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 14, 2018, 12:07:45 PM
Maybe she is just protecting us from enormous flat spiders and crocodiles and other poisonous pets of Australia.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 15, 2018, 01:25:18 AM
I took a step foward.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on July 15, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
Yes I was out of range, freezing bloody cold and choking on red dust for a week but I'm baaaack for a day or so. Photos posted missy. The view of the concert crowd from the top of Big Red sand dune

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 15, 2018, 01:04:58 PM
I knew you wouldn't disappoint me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 16, 2018, 04:08:15 AM
Still looking for an editor.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 16, 2018, 02:50:09 PM
Got to work out again this morning and survive. Although I'm not sure that's what the coach had in mind. I swear, they are trying to kill me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 17, 2018, 03:51:11 AM
Frogs are so cute.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 17, 2018, 12:06:03 PM
Bones, a coffee please. It is morning here. Early morning. A coffee would be great. Thanks.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 18, 2018, 03:11:54 AM
Feels good to do this again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on July 18, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
Soya ice cream all round, if you wouldn't mind, please Bones?

Don't suppose anyone has got an ice cream making machine have they?  I bought one in an Amazon sale and it's still sitting there in its box!  Other than soya milk, soya cream and flavourings, what else do I need to make a basic soya ice cream please?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 18, 2018, 12:43:58 PM
If you Google "How to make soy ice cream" you will get lots of information. Lots. Over 7.5 million hits on that.

Some are not vegan, but still soy. Not sure why you are using the soy stuff, so ... there are options.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on July 18, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
I've been vegetarian since I was 11 (I'm 40 now) and I'm allergic to dairy so soya is a necessity for me, considering the hubby doesn't like coconuts and neither of us like rice milk lol
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 19, 2018, 04:30:04 AM
Still looking for an editor.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 19, 2018, 12:21:44 PM
Some of the recipes had egg in them, so not vegen, but some vegetarians will eat eggs. So, there were lots of options there. I don't know if cashew milk would make better ice cream. I don't like it because it tastes sweet to me. But it, too, might fit your requirements. The coconut milk might also make great ice cream because it, too, has an underlying sweetness to it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 19, 2018, 07:46:50 PM
Hub and I were remarking this evening that:
a) neither of us can remember crying in response to cutting onions for decades and
b) we both used to routinely cry when cutting onions as children and in our youth (like, every time I had to chop onions, which was probably a few times a week)

So, are onions just less pungent/volatile these days, or do you become less sensitive to them as you get older?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 19, 2018, 09:07:08 PM
I don't really know, but it could be both.  I can't remember crying when I had to handle large quantities of cut onion when making up pasty fillings.  But I wasn't actually cutting them, so perhaps the initial 'force' had been 'blunted' somewhat.  The twenty pound bags were also chilled, (but never frozen), which may have helped.  They still packed plenty of smell though.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 20, 2018, 03:11:46 AM
Time to play Sims.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 20, 2018, 12:10:25 PM
I still cry when chopping onions and I'm very old. But I still leave mine in the pantry rather than the refrigerator. A "life hack" is to cool the onion before chopping to avoid tearing, but I never remember that soon enough.

I don't know if our onions are different or if it is just a matter of where we store them.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 20, 2018, 12:54:16 PM
I s5ore mine in a wire basket in the kitchen at ambient temperature, not in the fridge.

The fridge would be a very silly place to store an onion :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 20, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
I agree, but it is supposed to make you not cry. And when I plan ahead and actually chill the onion before slicing or dicing, it really does work.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 20, 2018, 09:15:04 PM
Back to applying for work.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on July 20, 2018, 10:04:49 PM
People keep pulling me back into concrete. Maybe I should check if I'm of Italian descent.

Best wishes in your job search, Noizchild.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 20, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
I agree, but it is supposed to make you not cry. And when I plan ahead and actually chill the onion before slicing or dicing, it really does work.

Okay, but this still does not answer the question of why hub and I, say 30-40 years ago, would weep uncontrollably while slicing onions, but then suddenly, with no change of onion-slicing protocol (and definitely no refrigeration) now no longer cry for the last 30-40 years
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on July 21, 2018, 09:24:40 AM
I think - and I am open to correction by onion experts - that it isn't the smell which makes you cry but the micro-droplets of acid onion juice released as an aerosol when you cut into them.  If these get into your eyes, they sting and you cry.  Wearing glasses puts up a barrier between onion and eye - have you succumbed to spectacle necessity in the last thirty years, Chick?  Or perhaps our eyes, like other parts of our bodies, are less sensitive when they've been round the block a few times.

Could chilling the onion reduce the amount of juice vapourised  by slicing?  Make it less volatile?

People used to swear by holding a slice of bread in their mouths as they cut.  Unless it was big enough to act as a mask, I can't see how that would help.  But sometimes, just thinking you're fighting back makes you feel better.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 21, 2018, 11:17:56 AM
I only wear reading glasses, not onion-chopping glasses :)

Hub wears glasses all the time, but he did when he was young too (extremely short-sighted)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 21, 2018, 11:33:28 AM
I used to wear contacts and now I wear glasses and I cried then and I cry now. I even can cry when I used a contained chopping tool. But then it takes more onions to get me going.

https://recipes.howstuffworks.com/question539.htm

And here is far more information on what makes us cry when chopping onions than anyone really needs and I didn't read the whole thing to see why anyone doesn't cry. But it is a thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 21, 2018, 01:00:14 PM
Neat.

Maybe the onions I buy come from low-sulfur soil.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 22, 2018, 01:19:49 AM
I've had a busy day today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 22, 2018, 12:24:49 PM
I haven't.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amanda on July 22, 2018, 02:18:40 PM
Me either.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 22, 2018, 02:47:23 PM
It's turning into a relatively lazy day today, after yesterday's busy.  I may go down town, but I probably won't bother.

It's going to be one of those days for 'tinkering at the edges', a bit of this, a bit of that.  I've started to thin out a sizeable pile of 'stuff', but could easily be distracted.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 23, 2018, 12:04:33 AM
I went to a real yoga class tonight. The first in a long time. It was nice.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 23, 2018, 02:47:21 AM
Sims is calling me again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on July 23, 2018, 12:35:06 PM
I need to get the last minute stuff packed and then Dick and I are off on an adventure. No planes this time, so I think I'm taking the laptop because it is so much easier for me to use than the tablet. I don't understand people who only use their phones or tablets for things. It would drive me nuts.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 23, 2018, 01:01:42 PM
I don't understand people who only use their phones or tablets for things. It would drive me nuts.

You're not already?  You've been here all these years under false pretences? 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 24, 2018, 01:35:46 AM
I use my phone and Kindle for different things too.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on July 27, 2018, 02:58:12 AM
So after I received one month of YouTube premium for free I can now download videos...

My channel is well over 10 years out of date ::)

Back in the old days I used to play PC games at an internet café all night,I needed intense music to keep me awake  ???

I don't like half of the songs anymore
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 28, 2018, 04:21:22 AM
I don't need YouTube premium.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on July 28, 2018, 05:46:06 AM
I don't need YouTube premium.

It's rather pricey @ $12 per month
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on July 28, 2018, 06:01:17 PM
I finished a complicated position paper this morning, sent it off, and now I’m like, “where are the comments dudes?”
Like a spaniel that’s done a trick and wondering if it was good enough to get a treat ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on July 29, 2018, 01:50:35 AM
Yeah, premium is not needed.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on July 31, 2018, 11:24:03 PM
Bed before midnight, tonight.

Been too many late and disturbed nights just recently.  It's starting to take a toll.

See you all tomorrow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 01, 2018, 03:53:29 AM
Waiting for my other laptop to come back.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 04, 2018, 07:51:26 PM
Yeah, premium is not needed.

Well if I subscribe to Google play music I get YouTube premium included
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 05, 2018, 02:10:25 AM
I don't think I have the money.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 05, 2018, 05:15:21 AM
"Morning has broken!"

But I didn't do it.  It was like it when I got here.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on August 05, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
Likely story.

Who drank all the coffee?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 05, 2018, 02:33:31 PM
That wasn't me either.

Just lately I've been telling myself off for things I haven't done ;-)

I haven't vacuumed the carpet.  I haven't run the steam cleaner over the kitchen floor.  Lots of things I haven't done.

Some of them may get done today, but if I haven't got the energy they won't.

It's a hard world, isn't it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on August 05, 2018, 02:45:23 PM
I'm with you, Gyppo.  I start every day with an awareness of the things that need doing, and the intention of doing some of them; and end it reasonably content if I've done any of them.

This morning I groomed and rode the horse, and put up the new siderails on the caravan; this afternoon (so far) I did a bit of work in the field.  I might do something else useful before close of play - it won't have to require the extension cord because mine has died and I'm waiting for the new one to arrive - or I might put my feet up and read.

Anyone want to offer odds on which?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 05, 2018, 03:12:06 PM
75/25 on putting your feet up, especially if it's hot ;-)

I might get around to putting up the coat hooks in the hallway.  I need to do something with my new electric drill  ;-)

Because of the way the bungalow is built there a kind of shallow alcove behind the wide open door.  Too shallow for a bookshelf, unfortunately, but a shame to leave empry.

The 'cunning plan' is to put two rows of hooks, one around waist height and a second row at head height or a little bit higher.  Short jackets, Alma sized coats, my empty rucksack between shopping trips, and my camera bag on the lower row, longer ex-postie stormcoats etc on the top row.  (The rucksack currently lives in the kitchen, but that little space is spoken for later.)  Plus some things should be by the door, ready to grab and go.

That way even if I end up with lot of stuff hanging there it should never be too bulky and shove the door back open.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 05, 2018, 06:06:40 PM
I am having to re-write my CV for a very specific set on competency applications. The line items are very prescriptive and repetitive. So far it is 86 pages long and growing (and no, that doesn’t include a publications list!)

Do you think it’s possible to literally die of boredom?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 05, 2018, 06:26:20 PM
Yes.  Undoubtedly.  Though very few will.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 05, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
I might become one of the select few. When some of my colleagues were complaining that it took them 8-9 days to complete the forms, I thought they were exaggerating. They were not.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 05, 2018, 06:59:41 PM
Hmmmm... I’ve just realised that my colleagues who’ve had to complete the same form do not seem to have died.

Higher threshold for boredom, or walking zombies, killed by administrative excess?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 05, 2018, 07:28:13 PM
I'm back home again. I'm unpacked again. I'm ready to get back to my uneventful life again. I already miss the grandkids and my son.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 05, 2018, 09:57:23 PM
Hmmmm... I’ve just realised that my colleagues who’ve had to complete the same form do not seem to have died.

Higher threshold for boredom, or walking zombies, killed by administrative excess?

The second possibility is more entertaining.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 06, 2018, 03:14:32 AM
My Sims game keeps crashing on this laptop. :(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 06, 2018, 07:58:53 AM
You’re the first post on page 100 of this thread. That means you’re post 1486 :)

(it just feels like being the first post on the 100th page should yield a rounder number....)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 06, 2018, 10:02:00 AM
I dare say it could seem a little 'untidy' to a numbers person.So this thread is averaging 14.86 posts per page.  This is either fascinating or totally irrelevant.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on August 06, 2018, 11:39:21 AM
It's like pi, isn't it?  Who would ever suppose there is no logical correlation between the radius of a circle and its circumference?  It's totally unreasonable.  I'm guessing that's why it took a while to invent the wheel - the concept was easy, the mathematics was mind-blowing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 06, 2018, 11:59:22 AM
You’re the first post on page 100 of this thread. That means you’re post 1486 :)

(it just feels like being the first post on the 100th page should yield a rounder number....)


On my computer you were the twelfth post on page 60.

I guess there is something in the settings about this.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 06, 2018, 12:27:10 PM
I have to admit to being a little Aspy about numbers. A lot of my working day is taken up with them. And I am frequently astounded by how many highly intelligent PhD level scientists fundamentally don’t get them. Like, aren’t you dudes supposed to be in the business of data evaluation? How can you evaluate data without having a sound grasp of numbers, and understanding what makes an effect significant or not?

That is totally irrelevant to page post averages, I know. Still, something in my brain is obviously fixated on them in all their glorious forms ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 06, 2018, 04:27:09 PM
In all their glorious forms probably sums it up perfectly for folks who are wired that way ;-)

 My nephew is a numbers guy, as is his son.  They both carry numerous formulae around in their heads and know all sorts of shortcuts for handling complex calculations.  A lot of this they do mentally.

Numbers 'speak' for them the way words usually do for me.  When he was at school my nephew would often get in trouble for not 'showing his workings'.  Often there were no conscious workings.  "What am I supposed to do?  Cut the top off my head so the teacher can see my brain working."

In the end he learned to do it his way first and then 'check' it the hard way writing down the steps to keep doubting teachers happy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 06, 2018, 06:34:28 PM
I have finally finished that competency application. I did not die of boredom, although at times it seemed not far-fetched that I might.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 06, 2018, 06:42:40 PM
."What am I supposed to do?  Cut the top of my head so the teacher can see my brain working."

I used to struggle with this when I was in school too. At some point after I started teaching (someone who doesn’t know how to show steps gets involved in teaching? I know, that doesn’t make a lot of sense) .... I’m not sure how long it took, but eventually it “clicked”. Now I show my steps too much, I write very long procedures for things, as I’ve got onto the habit of spelling out every step and every requirement and possibility.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 06, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Drinks are on me 8)

Green team collected $13,504 in Beer cans.

Money goes to local charities :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 07, 2018, 03:03:12 AM
My laptop is still in the shop.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 07, 2018, 04:57:20 PM
Good job, Frank. You did awesome stuff there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 07, 2018, 06:50:56 PM
Green team collected $13,504 in Beer cans.

Just as well you didn't empty them all personally.  You'd still be drunk.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 07, 2018, 09:12:30 PM
Animals (not just the human ones) are so funny.

We have two cats, who are sisters (same litter). One occasionally likes to go wandering (for like a day or two - not more than that)  - and when she comes back, her sister is all growling and chattering and hissing at her. Really seriously angry hissing.

We think the growl-y cat is cross with her sister for going missing. They are 10 year old cats who have lived together all their lives (and in the womb)  - I don’t think they forget each other after a day or two, so it can’t be that she thinks she is a stranger-cat.

It’s funny how angry growly-cat gets. Normally she is a total love-monster. But when her sister goes missing, her world gets totally upended - and nothing will console her except time.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 08, 2018, 04:30:57 AM
Maybe my laptop will come here this week or the next.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 08, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
My niece got a pit bull, Major, many years ago. Six months later, she got another, Georgia. Georgia got sick not too long after and had this eye thing going on. It was gross to look at, but the vets said it wasn't painful. I have no idea how they knew that.

Major mostly ignored Georgia. When my sister brought her dog over to play when they were all puppies, Harley and Georgia would play and Major would just snarl and want to be left alone.

Eventually, Georgia went blind and Major became her seeing eye dog. She would lean against him and he would take her outside and make sure she got back home safely and he simply was her personal escort everywhere.

Georgia died a few months ago. It took Major a very long time to even eat again. He acted like he didn't like her when she showed up at his house. He tolerated her. He then took care of her. And then he mourned her.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 08, 2018, 04:31:32 PM
Kind of sums up some people I know.  Sometimes you can be friendly without being friends, as with some workmates.  Also you can be friends without being friendly.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 08, 2018, 11:27:01 PM
Green team collected $13,504 in Beer cans.

Just as well you didn't empty them all personally.  You'd still be drunk.
.

 ;D


Amy My dogs brother never got over Pigs moving out ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 09, 2018, 04:14:03 AM
I'm about done with work.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 09, 2018, 09:55:29 AM
She’s still hissing at her sister. Sis was gone for less than 36 hours, and she’s been growling and hissing for about 48. Talk about holding a grudge!

Normally at this time of day they’d be cuddled in the cat basket together, but there’s definitely some cold shoulder action going on instead.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 10, 2018, 03:19:08 AM
I might be seeing the laptop next week.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 10, 2018, 05:43:36 AM
She’s still hissing at her sister. Sis was gone for less than 36 hours, and she’s been growling and hissing for about 48. Talk about holding a grudge!

Normally at this time of day they’d be cuddled in the cat basket together, but there’s definitely some cold shoulder action going on instead.

Poor baby 😭
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 10, 2018, 06:03:27 AM
She’s snuggled in my armpit now. Sister still in the doghouse (aka in the cat basket by herself)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 10, 2018, 06:06:13 AM
Do you ever see “volume 1” of a book that you really like, and it’s about ten years old or whatever, but you search and there’s no “volume 2”?

What’s up with that? Do people just change their minds? I’d think you wouldn’t call something “volume 1” unless there was at least a volume 2 in the pipeline....
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 10, 2018, 09:39:31 AM
She has forgiven her sister, and they are cuddled up in the cat basket together at last.

Four legged freaks ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 10, 2018, 02:39:51 PM
I'm betting the prowler goes out tonight again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 11, 2018, 04:09:43 AM
Stopped by the old boarding house so Pigs could get water...he got beat up by the resident cat :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 11, 2018, 04:52:50 AM
Animals is go WTF material.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 11, 2018, 05:18:09 AM
I'm betting the prowler goes out tonight again.

She was a good girl and stayed in. Her sister’s back to growling at her though. I think she’s got kitty-cat psychological problems. Maybe it’s abandonment issues.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on August 11, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Update #92 on singing bedtime lullabies to grandkids.
I thought he was asleep but Nathan (6) interrupts my nearly whispering bass(ish) voice rendition of It's a Wonderful World with, "Pop, about time you updated your songs. Learn to sing Shotgun. Give me your phone, I'll YouTube it for you. How d'you spell George Ezra?"
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on August 11, 2018, 12:46:59 PM
 :D sounds like you will be expanding your repertoire, Geoff. Next time try leading with B Double E Double R U N. That's always a winner with the kiddos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1vRvW3QUys
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 11, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
Don't know about the kids, but it amused me.

My girls were serenaded to sleep with folk songs, sea shanties, and poaching ballads.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on August 11, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
Thanks Laura, I'll report back :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 11, 2018, 04:55:49 PM
The prowler has brought in two mangled fledgling seagulls. Revolting as it is, it’s also pretty impressive. The seagulls nest on the rooftops in parapet guttering, and they are large (4-5 ft wingspan in these parts), extremely aggressive birds that could kill or maim a cat without too much difficulty.

So, she had to somehow climb up three storeys to the rooftop where the seagulls are nesting, and she had to be clever enough to wait until the parent seagulls were gone.

In fact, the fledglings themselves are pretty vicious. She brought a live one in one year and it was like a mini velociraptor. It could have easily put her eyes out and given her some nasty gashes.

Anyway, maybe she thought she has to do something impressive to win back her sister’s affections.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 11, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
Where I grew up (Florida), seagulls were much smaller (maybe 2 ft wingspan, possibly 3 for a really big one) and I don’t remember them as particularly aggressive. They used to hang out with us on the beach and I never recall them causing a problem. I always liked seagulls as a child.

British gulls are really strange - and maybe more clever than the average gull. Lots of them have moved inland, and live off rubbish at landfill sites.

I wonder if being cliff-dwelling has anything to do with it? There aren’t any cliffs in Florida, and there’s plenty of food, so maybe Florida gulls are more chilled.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 12, 2018, 03:04:34 AM
Another night of work finished.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 12, 2018, 12:32:05 PM
Seagulls here in South Carolina are, while not quite vicious, aggressive. My son calls them sky rats. If you don't watch your toddler and the kid's food, the sea rats will swoop in and get the food without much care to the toddler. If you don't have food, they pretty much leave you alone.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on August 12, 2018, 01:05:36 PM
Do they, though? Have you not seen a little movie titled The Birds?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 12, 2018, 01:15:13 PM
The Cornish locals take great delight in watching soft-hearted soft-headed tourists feeding the gulls - despite signs telling them not to - and then panicking like hell when the food runs out and the gulls keep pressing closer for more.

I once saw a cafe with a sign which read 'Gull-free eating inside.  Come on in.  You know it makes sense.'
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 12, 2018, 07:06:28 PM
“Sky rats” (or rather, the less elegant “rats with wings”) is what my husband used to call pigeons, but he’s agreed to revise his taxonomy in light of this superior categorisation.

I did like seagulls when I was a child, but here they are a menace.

I saw a headline outside a newsagents in Cornwall about 20 years ago that was “postman in seagull terror!” - which made me laugh at the time, because I was thinking of the much smaller gulls of my youth. But British seagulls are nasty beasts.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 12, 2018, 11:19:44 PM
On a happier note, we might have a day without rain. We had a bit of thunder, but nothing fell from the sky - yet.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 12, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
I was hoping for thunder today.  The pressure was high and for a couple of hours it felt as if I was wearing a tight fitting hat.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 13, 2018, 03:12:36 AM
I've gotten thunder twice over the weekend.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 13, 2018, 03:15:00 AM
It rained all yesterday and most of the day before. The plants were very happy. No thunder though.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 13, 2018, 12:11:41 PM
We did not get any rain yesterday!

I was getting the swimmies ready for my trek outdoors today, but I may not need them.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 14, 2018, 04:10:01 AM
I'm about done tonight. Anyone got any beef?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 14, 2018, 07:32:52 AM
Woke up at six to find a delightfully cool but dry morning.  Flung open all the windows and doors, had my morning pills, and went out to do a spot of hedging before it gets warm enough to be uncomfortable.

Part of my hedge is still thick with yellow flowers, so that can stay untouched for now, even though it's encroaching on the alleyway alongside the bungalow.  I'll let the bees have their fill before I get brutal with the clippers.  But the other part, which has been absolutely stiff with tiny pink flowers, and hundreds of bees, is ready for trimming.  Tomorrow is garden waste collection day.  They'll get a full bin for a change ;-)

It's a good to be alive day.

UPDATE:  It's now 8-50, I've trimmed the hedge so I can see the girls walking by again.  I would have one some more hacking at the back but the garden waste bin is full, despite me cramming the stuff in.  Even if Alma was here to bounce up and down as a rammer I doubt if I'd get much more in there.

I was spoken to or nodded at by countless morning cyclists and dog walkers who rarely see me out the the front.

I've crammed a lot of extra cardboard into the green recycling bin, which the buggers didn't empty two weeks ago.

But now we have a light grey overcast and it's getting hot again.  Time for a second breakfast I think.

It's still only nine in the morning, what am I going to do with the rest of the day?

Gyppo

PS:  I cleaned my monitor as well ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 14, 2018, 12:01:26 PM
I've got some cleaning you could do. It will be hot outside, but I have air conditioning and ceiling fans inside. You are welcome to clean as much as you like.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on August 14, 2018, 12:03:30 PM
That was a productive morning, Gyppo. Now you need a front porch and a rocker so you can sit back and wave to those passersby.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on August 14, 2018, 12:22:50 PM
Can I have the front porch and the rocking-chair without doing the housework?  I've decided it's something I have no talent for, and it's just stubborn to keep trying.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 14, 2018, 02:47:57 PM
I would love both a maid and a chef. Maybe a laundress or maybe that could be the maid's job, too. Although I have nothing important to do with all that extra time, I don't like doing that stuff.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 14, 2018, 04:06:56 PM
I have to work when the spirit takes me.  Just lately there's been too many days spent slumped in a corner, too hot to even cuss about it.   But we've had a few cool mornings and evenings, which means some of the backlog is getting cleared.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 14, 2018, 05:13:36 PM
Eczema is flaring up on my left foot.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 15, 2018, 08:15:10 AM
I went to see what was effectively a posh tribute band last night. It could have been excellent (the musicians and singers were excellent), but:
- the band wanted to pretend they were the real stars, and started over an hour late
- bizarrely they started with only the most obscure numbers, that only the most die-hard fans would recognise (which seemed to consist of playing the same riff over and over with no variation for ten solid minutes. No wonder those songs never hit the charts)
- the lead singer had a man-bun like something out of The Hunger Games, and put on a Mockney accent (he did have a good voice though, so I could almost forgive the ridiculous man bun)
- the mixing was bizarre - they’d bothered to hire about 15 violinists and cellists, but the sound balance was disproportionately toward the keyboard and bass, which completely overwhelmed the strings and made the experience no better than being in an over-loud disco
- they repeated their star performance at the break (40 minutes after the beginning of the set), and kept us waiting another 30 minutes (having presumably been tuckered out by twiddling the knobs on the mixer and playing the same note over and over again on the violin)

We had a train to catch. Of the ~3 hours we were at the venue, we got to see approximately 60 minutes of music, of which about 30 minutes was really good, albeit distorted.

Hey ho, it was an experience :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 15, 2018, 09:48:01 AM
I went to see what was effectively a posh tribute band last night...

...Hey ho, it was an experience :)

So was World War Two, or the D Day,  according to those who lived through it but still don't talk much ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 15, 2018, 12:39:19 PM
My father in law was in the Pacific theater and so missed the D Day experience completely. He was shot  - twice. Neither fatal, I point out ridiculously since Dick is a baby boomer.

My dad was in Europe. The most heartbreaking letter I found from him was wishing my brother Happy Third Birthday. Ricky died two weeks before but there was no instant communication back then, so the message took long time to get to Dad and he had sent his birthday greetings early to get to his son on the day.

Neither of them talked much about the war.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on August 15, 2018, 02:27:54 PM
What a terribly sad story, Chick.

My mother had a neighbour in the mid-'40s who heard that the war was over a few hours before she heard that her son had been killed in one of its last actions.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 15, 2018, 03:38:49 PM
I'm extremely grateful that my Dick was already out of the service before I met him.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 15, 2018, 09:10:29 PM
I'm extremely grateful that my Dick was already out of the service before I met him.

Huh? That quote threw me off.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on August 16, 2018, 04:04:15 AM
Hello all.

That is a sad story Spell.  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 16, 2018, 12:22:17 PM
Noiz, my husband is a real Dick. His name is actually Richard. He was named after his uncle who died of injuries suffered at Pearl Harbor. And Bob's brother was called Dick, so that's what they called my husband.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 16, 2018, 06:18:18 PM
What's the special for today, folks?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 16, 2018, 06:56:59 PM
Cheesy beans on toast.  With a drink of your choice.

Anything else is too complicated.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 16, 2018, 07:34:07 PM
I had a hankering for taco boats. The crispy ones. The6 don’t sell them anymore - just the soft ones (blegh) or taco shells (messy to eat)

Bad food companies.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 16, 2018, 07:36:51 PM
This is the kind of thing I wanted to buy: https://goo.gl/images/GFmtQP

It doesn’t seem to exist in southwest UK anymore.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 16, 2018, 08:07:11 PM
They look rather nice.

When I was an apprentice we used to make savoury bateaus, which were boat shaped pastries, about three inches long with a point on each end like a canoe, and filled with typical vol-au-vent fillings.  These were shortcrust pastry, because puff, no matter how thinly rolled just used up all the internal space.

Occasionally, for a special order we made them with sweet shortcrust, a fruit filling, and a little dribble of jelly glaze to hold the filling in place.

You could even top them with a vertical slice of candied orange or lemon, or a slim triangle cut from sheet angelica, to create a 'sail'.

Fiddly to make and thus too expensive to be economically viable.

But fifty years ago there were still some people who would pay the asking price for this kind of stuff.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 16, 2018, 08:13:10 PM
It’s comfort food: filled with refried beans and melted smoky cheese, sour cream and chilies and whatever else rocks your taco boat :) mmmmmmm - lovely crispy beany cheesiness :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 17, 2018, 11:48:30 AM
It’s comfort food: filled with retried beans and melted smoky cheese, sour cream and chilies and whatever else rocks your taco boat :) mmmmmmm - lovely crispy beany cheesiness :)


I don't know how hard they have to try, but they apparently try, try again, right?
I crack myself up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 17, 2018, 02:04:01 PM
Corrected :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Jo Bannister on August 17, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
There doesn't have to be an actual typo for me to see one.  I read this as RETIRED beans.  Past their sell-by date, perhaps?  Or perhaps I have dyslexic eyeballs.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 17, 2018, 03:28:20 PM
Who knew beans could be this funny?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 17, 2018, 04:38:20 PM
My husband’s family find farts particularly hilarious, so they’ve known for ages that beans are funny ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 17, 2018, 06:29:49 PM
I found a recipe for stringbeans and meatballs.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 17, 2018, 06:43:55 PM
Is it tasty? If so, care to share? I have a lot of runner beans that need eating up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on August 17, 2018, 06:48:50 PM
This one? https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/greatest-recipe-of-all-time-meatballs-string-beans

Looks yummy :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 18, 2018, 12:22:37 PM
I'm not a big fan of meatballs. That sounds dirty, but I don't mean it that way.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 18, 2018, 07:24:11 PM
I woke up feeling lazy and have resolutely stuck with it all day.  There was a fraught moment when I looked at my drill and a packet of cup hooks bought so I can hang mugs underneath my wall mounted kitchen cabinet, and wavered briefly.  But I fought the devil and won.

If there'd been a bit more wind I would have made an effort to test fly a new kite which arrived today, but it seemed nature was on my side today ;-)

A leisurely dinner and some more reading will round the day off quite nicely.  Maybe the hooks will go up tomorrow.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 18, 2018, 07:54:28 PM
Perhaps. I found the recipe on Yahoo. I'll check that link still works.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 19, 2018, 12:39:35 PM
When I find a recipe, I copy and paste it into a word document. Then I make it. If we like it, I save it into a Dropbox file. If we don't, I don't save it and we don't have it again.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 19, 2018, 06:08:40 PM
When I find a recipe, I copy and paste it into a word document. Then I make it. If we like it, I save it into a Dropbox file. If we don't, I don't save it and we don't have it again.

You should see my cooking bookmark folder.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 21, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
Instinct?

Alma dragged out my back doormat into the garden, then she came back and wrestled a tall stool out there as well.

"What are you doing?"

"It's a secret.  Don't look.  I'll show you when it's finished."

"Okay."

She then dug out a big collapsed cardboard box from the stash left over from my move,(due to appear on freecycle soon), and vanished into the garden with that.  She knocked over a few things in passing, but nothing breakable.  No house is truly kid-proof, but we make a fair fist of 'damage limitation'.

Then, a few minutes later, we were invited out to inspect her workmanship.

A mat for comfort, a stool for support, and a cardboard roof held down with a few stones so it wouldn't blow away.

"It's my den, so I can keep the sun off but still get all the lovely fresh air."

A week or so later her Mum took her camping for the first time ever and she loved it ;-)  Some things don't need to be taught.

Left click to enlarge.

As a bonus there's an example of how well Cammo trousers merge into the background, betrayed by an uncovered hand.

Gyppo

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 21, 2018, 12:17:14 PM
The lessons they learn first are those they see, not those they hear.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 21, 2018, 12:21:47 PM
Next time we're near a small stream I'll have to show her how to build a dam.  It was one of our great delights when we were kids.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 21, 2018, 04:41:28 PM
Ah yea I remember the tale of the angry neighbor and his fish ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 21, 2018, 05:56:55 PM
Ah yes ;-)

If he'd arranged the water levels properly his fish would have still had plenty of water in their pond - albeit still rather than flowing - even when the stream was running low.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 21, 2018, 06:05:42 PM
I used to have fish once upon a time...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 21, 2018, 06:31:44 PM
What happened to them?  I know a lot of people who used to keep fish.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on August 22, 2018, 12:02:46 AM
Clever little minx isn't she, always thinking
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 22, 2018, 03:56:43 AM
I went to bed too early last night because I was feeling knackered.  At about 10 PM.

As a consequence I woke up at 3-45 AM, all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed with absolutely no desire to go back to sleep.

So it's early pills and breakfast, and we'll see how it goes from here.

If it was daylight I'd go out and sit in the garden for a while.  Maybe I'll sit in the living room with the french windows open and read for a while.  This is the one big advantage of living alone, I don't have to worry about disturbing anyone else.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 22, 2018, 11:53:20 AM
I was so tired yesterday and so took a nap. Then I was sure I wasn't going to be able to sleep. But I fell asleep around 11 and then woke up at 12.30 and figured I was done for. But, instead, I fell back to sleep quickly and didn't wake until 6. Good deal.

I get a Word a Day email because I like to see how many of these "obscure" words I already know. I did not know today's word and thought I would share it.

crunt

PRONUNCIATION:
(krunt)

MEANING:
noun: A blow on the head with a club.

ETYMOLOGY:
Perhaps of imitative origin. Earliest documented use: 1786.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Vienna on August 22, 2018, 01:10:12 PM
hello everybody, spittin fevvers here me, very very hot. I'll have a pint, cannot Believe our little lad Kilian starts school in less than 2 weeks....where does the time go eh? During the summer holidays another milestone, he took off his water wings and  said I dont need them anymore and ran and jumped into the lake........Noooooooooo I shouted you cannot swim.......however he proved me wrong. Swims like a fish.


cheers
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 22, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
I love when little kids know more than we think they do.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on August 22, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
There we were backing our poxy little Ford Focus up the drive when it started talking to us, like Herbie. We've had it since someone crashed into our other car in September but it had not talked to us before. (Maybe like Einstein who didn't talk much until he was 9 ish because he had nothing useful to say). Anyhow, the voice was remarkably like our daughter's. It WAS her. Somehow, my fiddling with the SYNC satnav the other day activated a means for people to talk via our car via Mrs N's phone.
I hope it's not catching.
I wouldn't want my bike to suddenly start telling me off.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 22, 2018, 07:29:18 PM
That would be scary, Geoff.

"It's a hill, Dummy.  Either drop a gear and maintain your cadence, or stand up and add some weight to the pedals.  How long have you been riding?"
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 22, 2018, 11:48:39 PM
I need to try and listen to scary podcasts at broad daylight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 23, 2018, 05:15:16 AM
Another early waking.  Quarter to five.  But a bit more civilised than yesterday.  more like postie hours, and therefore more acceptable to me.

Breakfast and a drink, because I woke up starving, and then I'll go back to bed with a clear conscience.

Hooping for a decent day because I have a kite to fly with my Grandaughter ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 23, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
I could not fall asleep last night, so I'm working on fewer hours of rest today. Le sigh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 23, 2018, 05:40:44 PM
It's mostly Pandora that eats up my day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 23, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
Pandora?  Isn't she the one who opened her box and let out all the evils of the world?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 24, 2018, 11:12:31 AM
"Bones, switch on the jukebox will you?  I woke up in a kick-arse mood."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3pq7Pv_OrE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlkXb10X8mM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KH_HQD7eOw
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 24, 2018, 11:47:59 AM
Dick and I went to the gym yesterday morning and then WE both went to a yoga class last night. I'm turning him into a gym rat (even tho the yoga class was at a neighbor's house, she is a real yoga instructor and just built her own Zen Den at home).
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 25, 2018, 03:46:23 AM
Pandora?  Isn't she the one who opened her box and let out all the evils of the world?

The music radio site.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 25, 2018, 06:57:39 AM
Cheers.  I discovered this later.  We 'older dudes' live in a time warp, more familiar with mythology than modernity ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 25, 2018, 12:04:46 PM
I believe the music site was named such because they were releasing all that horrid music to the world, not just the good stuff.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 25, 2018, 01:13:03 PM
You could be right ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 25, 2018, 03:16:41 PM
I've been watching and/or listening to Today I Found Out on You Tube for a long time. It's rather like Little Bits of History and many of the topics are things I've written about, but with lots more details and extras added in. So, I find it interesting.

The guy is a British expat living in Prague so he talks like a Brit which to Americans is "funny". After years of listening, I'm used to the accent and know that privacy and controversy and other words are just said different. But he also has trouble pronouncing many names and foreign words. So, it is sometimes difficult to follow along and I have to stop crocheting and really listen intently for a few moments.

He just updated his look and has a new backdrop which is just fine although it makes some of the text he puts up a bit harder to read. But the really irritating thing is he added background music. WTF? Why would you make something that can be difficult to hear, even harder to hear? When he starts talking really fast (and he does) and there is noise (music) in there too, it is nearly impossible to tell what's going on.

He has put up three videos like this and asked for feedback. I gave it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 25, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
I often click out of youtube videos which I'd otherwise find interesting or even fascinating, because of the background 'music'.  Mixing background music and speech seems singularly stupid
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 25, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
No horrid music at Nostalgia fest 8)
https://nostalgiafestival.ca/line-up-schedule/
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 26, 2018, 02:12:42 AM
I believe the music site was named such because they were releasing all that horrid music to the world, not just the good stuff.

You just have to thumbs down the stuff you don't want and thumbs up the stuff you do.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 26, 2018, 12:43:54 PM
Or just not use the thing ...

I love the sound of silence, not the song, but the sound.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on August 26, 2018, 05:00:36 PM
Mrs N continues her decluttering mission. To show willing I went to the back bedroom to see what books could be disposed of. After an hour I'd got no further than rereading a book of Spike Milligan's letters to councils, MPs, etc. Hilarious. I tried reading a funny one to my wife in which he complained that he went to Naples to see Vesuvius "but the bloody fools let it go out!" I couldn't finish for laughing. No progress made with sorting out the books...
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 27, 2018, 02:25:25 AM
Or just not use the thing ...

I love the sound of silence, not the song, but the sound.

I can't work in silence. Plus, I use Pandora when I am writing one particular story.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 27, 2018, 07:37:11 AM
I sometimes use music to invoke a particular mood before I start writing, but once I'm buried in my tale the CD can run through three or four times before I consciously notice it any more.  For this I prefer instrumentals to music with lyrics, because that way there's no clash of words between my story and the music.

My characters quite often have a definite musical choice when working.  My female motorbike restorer finds Finlandia by Sibelius definitely calming when doing fiddly electrical stuff.  Channelling her author there  ;-)

John and Frances on the other hand have so far displayed no particular musical bias, which only right now has struck me as intriguing.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 27, 2018, 11:47:00 AM
I can write with background music and I used to even be able to do things with lyrics, but ... I have learned to love the silence.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on August 27, 2018, 11:52:10 PM
I find silence distracting
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 28, 2018, 02:48:39 AM
Silence will drive me crazy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 28, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
Maybe that's it. I'm already crazy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 28, 2018, 07:22:17 PM
[Gyppo ambles in.  The Jukebox, sensing what a strange mood he's in today and the kind of music he's been listening too, frantically shuffles it electrons and spinning platters.  Decides without any prompting that this one might do.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxIWDmmqZzY
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on August 28, 2018, 11:53:54 PM
You made me click that one
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 29, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Didn't kill you to take a chance, did it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 29, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
I learned about the Urban Legend behind the song "Love Roller Coaster".
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 29, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
Was it interesting?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 30, 2018, 12:08:49 AM
Too much old late night music tonight, so bordering on melancholia.  Here's something gloriously irreverent to break the spiral and put me in a better mood for sleeping.

Sung by a strange character who hangs around in Cornwall despite being from Belfast.

You know how some people have all sorts of lucky charms and religious artefacts hanging inside their car?

Contains some swearing and may offend some folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkBO83LnBs
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 30, 2018, 02:52:36 AM
Was it interesting?

Yes. They see that a woman screams during the instrumental part.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 30, 2018, 12:00:13 PM
It's a new day here. Not much different than the old day, but there you have it.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on August 30, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Hello Everyone!

Did you miss me? Makes sense, I'm still missing.

I missed all of you.

I have a new budget laptop and a low budget adobe.


Know what else I'm missing? Jo Bannister, for one, where'd they go?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on August 30, 2018, 09:08:08 PM
Jo's still around.

Welcome back, Deb.

Things are a bit quiet around here though.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on August 31, 2018, 02:39:07 AM
I see her sometimes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on August 31, 2018, 12:06:37 PM
I'm here, if that helps. hahahahaha


It is quiet here lately.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 01, 2018, 12:21:47 AM
So Deb, you moved yet mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 01, 2018, 02:28:20 AM
I'm usually busy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 01, 2018, 12:58:00 PM
I haven't moved in ages. I sit and sit and sit and then sit some more.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 01, 2018, 03:08:57 PM
I’ve been doing the opposite. Loads of gardening this morning. I don’t know why I bother with the gym - if I just kept up with the gardening and housework I’d get plenty of exercise!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 01, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
(It was intense gardening. We have a steep front garden with 70 steps. Up and down, up and down. And I sawed down a couple of ask trees that had infiltrated our hedge and dug our sone beds. I was panting quite a lot and my arm muscles felt at one point like they didn’t have enough strength to try to rip up any more roots and weeds)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 01, 2018, 04:02:17 PM
I love the idea of an ask tree. I assume that was the tree in the Garden of Eden, the Tree of Knowledge.

Probably just an ordinary ash tree, but ask tree is so much better.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 01, 2018, 04:47:40 PM
No, this was definitely an ask tree. It was asking too many questions, it had to go.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 01, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
Like having a nosy neighbour then?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 01, 2018, 06:58:10 PM
Exactly. And this one was double-guilty, because it was interfering with my privacy hedge.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 01, 2018, 08:05:00 PM
I can see why it wouldn't be very Poplar then.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 01, 2018, 11:36:46 PM
I want to move soon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 02, 2018, 07:12:04 AM
I can see why it wouldn't be very Poplar then.

;) ;)

I wish I could come up with another pun to match that.

Guess I’ll have to wait fir my next typo for Spell to pick up on (I should wear glasses at the computer, but I’m convinced they make your eyesight worse, so I avoid them. Hence I miss typos. At work I have two big screens, but here I just have an iPad)

*** ha ha ha - “fir” is a genuine uncorrected typo that works here! Thank you typo gods :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 02, 2018, 07:28:29 AM
I use glasses for reading paper books, because I'm convinced the fonts are shrinking.  As the books get thicker and the pages get bigger some paperbacks won't fit shelves which used to be plenty tall enough ;-)

But not for the computer.  I just up the font size to 14 point, which is enough, and the same when I'm reading on the Kindle.  Which I use in landscape mode to get a decent length of reading line at the slightly bigger font size.

I have occasionally misread numbers on my old grey Nokia phone with the mono screen though.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 02, 2018, 01:47:14 PM
Isn't typing a fun activity? You just never know what will turn up.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 02, 2018, 01:51:28 PM
I don’t really type on my iPad, so much as peck.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 02, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
On my tablet, it picks the words it thinks I want, even if they aren't the words I actually try to type out. I do have a bluetooth keyboard which will allow me to really type on my tablet.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 02, 2018, 06:14:07 PM
I turned off predictive text a long time aqo.  It irritated the hell out of me.

But today there was an even bigger horror in store.   The self service tills in the pound shop speak to you.  That is annoying enough in itself.  But today it was speaking in an 'Elvis' voice.  My rucksack on the shelf was described as an 'unknown stranger in the bagging area'.  I told it to fuck off back to the chip shop and the lady at the next till nearly peed herself laughing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QccPUSTMriM
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 03, 2018, 12:09:22 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 03, 2018, 02:22:12 AM
My dental tape is so minty.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 03, 2018, 12:35:50 PM
I don't know why the self checkout is always encountering "unexpected item in the baggage area" but it does that here, too, although not in an Elvis voice.

I'm being told by social media not to use self checkout because it takes away the jobs that underemployed workers are apparently clamoring for. But I'm not supposed to approve of the low wage jobs for not very smart people. In fact, I'm supposed to believe that there are no not very smart people.

Walmart near my son's house (in Ohio) had a sign saying they were hiring with wages starting at $15 per hour. My old boss hated Walmart because they paid such low wages even though they aren't skilled jobs. My job needed a skill set high in technology and special vocabulary and all that crap. They never, even after five years, paid me even close to that $15 per hour. It didn't matter so much until she started ranting about Walmart's low pay scale.

I find that liberals are really just liberal with my stuff and are particularly unliberal with their own stuff.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 03, 2018, 08:17:00 PM
So Deb, you moved yet mate?

Yes Ma'am. Living it up in slumlord paradise managed by a crooked property manager.  We were desperate and took what we could. Moved into a house 1/3 the size of the old place, minus the 500 square foot garage. We've had three washing machine floods due to plumbing installed by unskilled handymen.  Do you know how much water drains from even a small laundry load? It looks like a lot when it's on your floor! From the looks of it, this house has seen numerous floods. We were promised repairs that are yet to come. So, I've been moved to tears a few times.

Fun fact: We live across the street from the father-in-law's house. You know, the one we used to live in?  It has a beautiful exterior paint job now.

Threw away lots of stuff and still have boxes to go through but it's been too darn hot to do anything. We're on a steady diet of 90 degree+ temperatures here and being a slumlord's house, the air conditioning and insulation are woefully inadequate. We've purchased two window air conditioners just to make living in the heat barely tolerable.

On the bright side, we moved in in May on a yearly lease. Our lease is up in April (although crooked property manager changed the month to June) and I'm already looking for somewhere else to go.

We were approved for a VA loan but the fires caused such a demand for housing, that prices have skyrocketed and increased $50,000 to $100,000 on average, bringing the average cost of a 3 bedroom 2 bath house to $500,000 and up! There are a few houses still in the mid $400,000's but California property taxes and home owner's insurance are ridiculously high and climbing. There is housing construction everywhere so we're hoping the bubble will burst in a year or so. If not, we'll bide our time until Darren retires and move to a state where we won't be forced to live at poverty level. I can't see the upside of paying almost $1,000,000 for a house worth half that.   

California is not consumer friendly. We were saddled with a fifteen cent per gallon gas tax and water rates have almost doubled.

Jeez! I sound like all I do is bitch and complain. It feels wrong to have your comfort level regress when it should be going the other way. I lived in better conditions when I was broke and single, putting myself through school. This move has taken its toll on all of us. But, as my mother-in-law used to say, "This too shall pass."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 03, 2018, 08:44:03 PM
But, as my mother-in-law used to say, "This too shall pass."

It does.  I've told myself that quite a few times during my life.

The 'Micawber Principle', an unreasoning belief that 'something will turn up', is a great comfort, and very often it does.

Hang on in there, Deb.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 04, 2018, 12:41:20 AM
Dodgy landlords in every bloody corner of the earth it seems mate

Oz has high real estate costs on the east coast which is where we currently live. I've been in mine forever but we are getting it ready to sell.

Hope you find something better mate, not that you would really feel like another move.

When is hubby due to retire?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 04, 2018, 01:37:24 AM
Eight years if he wants full benefits from his thirty plus years working for the Federal Government. Fingers crossed the troll doesn't screw that up.

Now that we're moved and the kids are both in college, it's time for me to get back to work full time too.  Hopefully 25 years of volunteer work and my odd jobs in between will count for something but man, the thought of getting back to the grind and redoing my resume is daunting. Next week I'm going to detail my car to get approved for Lyft and Uber again to fill in for the mean time.

Last year I drove for both companies an entire week before my car was needed by one of the guys. In that week, I met a lot of people. So, who knows? Maybe I'll connect with someone who's looking for an employee with my skill set and sparkling personality. Ha!

I must admit, I'm spoiled after having so much leisure time to paint and write for a year and a half prior to the move. I could'a been a contenda'.   

Time to buck up and hopefully not make a mess to muck up. Meaning, I hope I can manage a good balance without unwittingly putting stress on anyone else.

That's more than you ever wanted or needed to know. ::) :P
~Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 04, 2018, 01:38:20 AM
How was your walkabout FF?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 04, 2018, 02:28:29 AM
Life is bloody hard most of the time Deb, I hope you find your perfect fit mate

Walkabout wasn't too bad. Lots of wind and dust and -5 temps and that is bad in a tin can I can assure you   ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 04, 2018, 04:06:12 AM
I skinned my knee today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 04, 2018, 08:32:29 AM
Never mind, you've still got another one.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 04, 2018, 11:59:09 AM
When I'm bored, I think I might want to look for a job again and then I remember how irritating it was to go to work and I calm down and find something to do.

But then again, I'm 65 and really the age to be retired. I don't want to be a Walmart greeter or anything that would interfere with my regularly planned schedule.

I really hated packing and moving and unpacking, but at least when you own a house and the housing market goes up, the piece of crap you are in is worth more too, making it easier to buy the next one.


As an aside, Bing's wallpaper today is curiously soothing for my OCD.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 04, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
Now I have to go look at Bing's wallpaper. :P

One plus to having A.D.D. is that I seldom get bored. 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 05, 2018, 12:30:32 AM
I'm having my house painted this week in preparation for sale. It's been a lot of years coming but now is the time.

The other half doesn't think so but meh!!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 05, 2018, 01:43:29 AM
My knee still hurts.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 05, 2018, 12:18:49 PM
One of my friends and her husband bought an RV and a truck to pull it. They are planning on travelling after he retires at the end of the year. Then they put their house on the market and it sold so damn fast they are having to rent a place until he actually retires.

I hope your housing buy/sell stuff goes a bit smoother.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 06, 2018, 02:08:32 AM
My mouth feels so minty.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 06, 2018, 04:37:24 AM
One of my friends and her husband bought an RV and a truck to pull it. They are planning on travelling after he retires at the end of the year. Then they put their house on the market and it sold so damn fast they are having to rent a place until he actually retires.

I hope your housing buy/sell stuff goes a bit smoother.

We have a rental property one of the kids live in. She moves out at the end of this month so we won't be re leasing it. When this sells, we will move into it until the right property turns up, well that's the plan. It is on a main road and I won't like it but at least while we are there, we can get it ready to sell too. When we buy the next one, we hopefully, will go in mortgage free again
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 06, 2018, 10:38:40 AM
My husband and I have kicked around the idea of becoming campground hosts but if I'm traveling the country in a motor home, I'd rather be able to pick up and go whenever we feel like it and not have deal with other campers or the duties that go with being a campground host.


I'm having my house painted this week in preparation for sale. It's been a lot of years coming but now is the time.

The other half doesn't think so but meh!!

You will take before and after pictures, right?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 06, 2018, 11:36:29 AM
Okay, being the Luddite that I am, would someone mind explaining to me how I go about getting pictures from my laptop or my cell phone to post here? Whenever I try to link with the file info, it never works.   ???

I know there will be a palm to forehead solution. ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 06, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
When posting, click on the attachments and other options, select

Attach:
Choose file. Then select the file you want uploaded. It isn't linking to it, it's sending it to a place up in the cloud and linking to that. The file can't be too big, so if you don't have compressing program on your computer, you may have to save the picture as Thing I want to post or something, resize it online, download that and upload the smaller file.

I have found that when I upload pictures to Facebook, it automatically compresses them. I can then save the picture that is compressed from there, delete the picture from Facebook if I don't want it there, and then upload the smaller thing.

I also have a program on my computer that can resize a picture, compressing it to a smaller file.

The link thing works for picture already up on the internet, but it doesn't work from Facebook or Instagram.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 07, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
Work is done for the day?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 07, 2018, 07:09:38 AM
Are you sure?  You sound a little uncertain ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Vienna on September 07, 2018, 07:57:57 AM
Good morning all. I will have an espresso please. Kilian has, more or less, finished his first week of school, in 2 weeks he will be 7.They start at 6 here and as he was born in September we let him stay at Kindergarten until this year. He has enjoyed it so far. Elinor (5 in October) is now in Kindergarten without big brother but she has her little group of friends so as she said when I asked her how it is, " Oh is Kilian not here now dad" was her answer with a grin.

have a great Friday people.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 08, 2018, 12:54:51 AM
My fingers smell like okra.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 08, 2018, 01:23:39 AM
Ah well, it's taking your mind of your knee for a while.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 08, 2018, 09:23:01 AM
Thanks Patti. :)

Hi Folks.

Bones, 2 shots of tequila please. I'm going to have to settle for virtual tequila tonight, but I could use the reality numbing aspects of actual tequila shots.

Do you ever get really disgusted with yourself?

No?

Yeah, me either.

How is everyone doing?

I'm getting sick from the neighbor's secondhand smoke. Not an exaggeration, it's truly making me ill. I feel like I'm in a constant state of being on the verge of getting a cold, to feeling like I have a low-grade cold.  Headache, irritated throat and eyes, can't take in a full, deep breath, and no energy. I should buy stock in Excedrin.

There are two people next door who must be chain smokers. The people behind them smoke and there is a steady stream of vehicles in the alley, idling by the garage one house down from us for a few minutes before they take off. I imagine they smoke when they're out there waiting for the drive through, drug dealer to deliver to their cars. I can't think of any other reason to have that kind of traffic, that often. Can you?

Hate, being the strong word that it is, I absolutely hate it.

The HEPA air scrubbing filters can't keep up. There is no way to plug all the vents and I can't just waltz over there and ask them to quit smoking in their own back yard.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 08, 2018, 09:58:30 AM
My nephew's Serbian wife would tell you to 'Just lean out of the window and shoot the bastards, they won't do out again."  She's a nice person but a hard woman.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 08, 2018, 12:19:14 PM
I am loathe to suggest this because I think it's over suggested, but have you tried some of the purer essential oils in a diffuser? The air scrubbers may get out the impurities, but smell is a powerful trigger. Both Young Living and DoTerra have oils that are pure extractions and smell beautiful while supposedly cleaning the air and making breathing easier.

Both oil companies make jewelry that can hold oils and bring the scent around with you. We get accustomed to the scents quickly, but they do tend to block out more ambient ones.

A really good Yankee Candle might help in the meantime, something with a really clean scent, like cotton sheets or sea air or something like that.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 09, 2018, 03:32:08 AM
I need a new podcast.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 09, 2018, 12:28:26 PM
there are thousands of them out there
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 09, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
I bet there's even a self-help one telling you how to wean yourself away from your podcast dependency.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 09, 2018, 11:00:30 PM
Patti I agree with the oil suggestion, I stick my diffuser on often and it seems to block out different smells, depending on the oil

Bones, a nice hot strong latte and some French toast with maple, crispy bacon and strawberries and a scoop of ice cream to top it off tar mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on September 10, 2018, 12:36:19 AM
Step right up and read the new rules, Writers.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on September 10, 2018, 12:36:55 AM
You hear that, Gyppo? NO GRAPPLING.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 10, 2018, 02:01:39 AM
I will get rain this week.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 10, 2018, 03:35:30 AM
Step right up and read the new rules, Writers.

I'm even free in this bar  ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 10, 2018, 05:54:44 AM
Thanks Patti and FF. Don't know why I didn't think of that.


                 ~      *       ~

Step right up and read the new rules, Writers.


I'm a healer. I have magic hands for kinks and aches in backs and muscles.

How does one become designated?


I'm slightly disappointed about the dwarf tossing. The two I know love to get tossed.  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 10, 2018, 06:06:46 AM
Only one healer per bar and I have dibs mate  :P
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 10, 2018, 06:17:10 AM
I didn't see the, "One healer per bar" clause. As a matter of fact, the rules state, "Healers" as in plural which, in essence means there has to be more than one healer.
 :P 8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 10, 2018, 06:18:39 AM
Well no, you have to have more than one healing qualification hence healers all in one hot bod mate.  ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 10, 2018, 06:21:23 AM
I'm not so sure.  ::)

That's okay though. I still have Tim's magic, unlimited credit card. ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 10, 2018, 06:23:52 AM
Ah, so that is all but an admission you tried to push those boundaries for freebies when I am here for the good of my people >:D

I bet that bloody card is Ma's, she made one up with Tim's name
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 10, 2018, 06:53:46 AM
I'm all about sharing the wealth. As a matter of fact, Bones, please set up my friend, Firefly, with whatever she desires and do the same for anyone else who wanders in to the bar.  I'll have a bottle of Merlot and a chilled glass and please set up a bottle of Labatts in honor of our beloved friend.

I don't know anything about Ma's shenanigans with fake cards. Though I'm sure she was clever about it.

Tim loaned me his card one night and told me to use it wisely. Ha! We both knew that was a stretch.  I never had a chance to return it to him. I'm certain he'd approve of me using it now.  Actually, I think he'd encourage it.  ;D

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 10, 2018, 07:25:51 AM
Tim loaned me his card one night and told me to use it wisely. Ha! We both knew that was a stretch.  I never had a chance to return it to him. I'm certain he'd approve of me using it now.  Actually, I think he'd encourage it.  ;D

Sounds quite likely.

The person who wrote those rules left a curiously useful gap. 'Staves, swords, and bows to be left at the door.'  Not a  mention of knives or daggers.  Strange oversight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 10, 2018, 07:44:29 AM
Probably written by a bloody foreigner mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 10, 2018, 08:16:00 AM
The style of that sign reminds me of some of the signs seen at fairgrounds proclaiming the occupant of the van to be 'The One and only Original Gypsy Rose Lee, Fortune Teller and Palmist'.

One year at Nottingham Goose Fair there were three vans with exactly identical signs  parked next to each other.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 10, 2018, 10:20:44 AM
Probably written by a bloody foreigner mate

I didn't know there was such thing as a foreigner here.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 10, 2018, 11:49:57 AM
Didn't they sing Juke Box Hero?

Full stop after each word, too. Rather like William Shatner when all excited or angry.


I guess this taser and stun gun are still allowed in here. That's good.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 10, 2018, 09:38:18 PM
Now they are talking about kicking me out of my home and forcing me to get into gridlocked traffic.

I'm in Zone E and apparently that is too close to the top of the alphabet.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 11, 2018, 03:24:45 AM
Everyone stay safe on the east coast this weekend.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 11, 2018, 05:19:17 AM
Now they are talking about kicking me out of my home and forcing me to get into gridlocked traffic.

I'm in Zone E and apparently that is too close to the top of the alphabet.
Good lord :(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 11, 2018, 05:32:52 AM
It's all an adventure Spell and you get to live, double bonus
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 11, 2018, 08:18:51 AM
I'm not advising you to stay put, Patti. By all means, if you have a safe place you can safely get to other than a shelter, then go. Even a public shelter is better than risking your lives at home.

We heard it over and over during the Thomas Fire, "It's not worth your lives to stay put."  With that said, keep in mind though, that once you evacuate, they won't let you return until they have a chance to deem the area safe. Contact your local PD for assurances your property will be protected from looting. If it floods, that will be a moot point.

The difference with us, is that we could see the fire, and there were firefighters everywhere, so we knew we could get out when all Hell broke loose. Hurricanes, not so much. You can't gauge what a storm will do. 
 
If you haven't boarded up your windows, have you cross taped them? Do you have a plan of action if it floods?

Take all of your important documents and anything else you don't want to lose with you, medication, water, first aid kid, food, change of clothes, and toiletries, photographs, keepsakes, your pets and food and water for them, and make sure your insurance papers are in hand. You never know.  At least have it all packed and ready to go.

Do not depend on anyone to have supplies for you. They won't. It took three days before Darren and I were issued water after the '94 quake. We had to line up for it and they ran out before everyone was taken care of. So, cover your ass. Last year, no one expected Hurricane Harvey to hang over Texas for as long as it did.


Remember, the storm can change direction at any time, you may have flooding due to prolonged and heavy rainfall, tidal surges, and don't forget the deadly 140 mph winds! In these days of wild weather, things don't always go they way they used to. Expect the unexpected. I know you know this but when you're smack dab in the middle of an emergency, some times, the most obvious things can easily be forgotten.

I feel your pain because the, "Oh shit! What should we do?" struggle is real.  It's a, damned it you do, damned if you don't, situation.
Be safe, My Dear, you are in my thoughts.
Big
HUGS!

~ Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mark Hoffmann on September 11, 2018, 09:22:21 AM
.. and ... don't leave your washing on the line.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 11, 2018, 12:19:58 PM
The storm has inched more northward, and should hit in North Carolina. I live inland about twenty miles outside Charleston which is in the middle of the South Carolina's coast. My son has to stay put as he is a first responder, but he is almost in Georgia and outside the cone of despair.

They set up the region in zones because some counties, like mine, are elongated. I'm at the very edge of the interior of the county and truly wish I could stay put. I have the clothes off the line but in all honesty, that would be a hell of a fresh scent after the storm.

Dick's sister lives in a very safe place right now and we will go there if we have to, but on a good day, that's a eight hour trip. It is not, however, a shelter. And they won't be price gouging on the west coast of Florida, so there is that.

I would much prefer to stay. I'm hoping the governor will have been properly informed and use zones for an updated evacuation announcement which should leave me here at home with all my battery operated implements, plenty of water, and my own bed.

While it is true that hurricanes can shift, it is also true they are not fires that bend quickly with the wind. That's a huge storm out there and they are their own weather which means they aren't quickly affected by anything else. That's both good and bad.

I really don't want to leave. I know it is 95% stupid to go. It's that last 5% that is making me a bit edgy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on September 11, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
That's a hard call, Spell; To go or stay. So many factors come into play.

Well, you luckily have the advice from a 1st Responder to lean on, plus you sound like you have a few plans of just-in-case.

Be safe. 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 11, 2018, 01:22:07 PM
ST, must be your shout  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 12, 2018, 03:14:53 AM
Sims 4 is calling me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 12, 2018, 07:03:01 AM
My bed is calling me.  I've only been out of it long enough to make a drink and eat two crumpets, but I may well heed the call and go back there for a while.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 12, 2018, 09:28:43 AM
Glad you're higher up Patti. No worry of landslides in your area? It's hard to tell if we're being fed sensational or actual news out here. They are making it sound like the Carolina's, Virginia, and parts of West Virginia are going to get a Noah's Arc kind of rain from this storm.


Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 12, 2018, 01:16:17 PM
That was the trouble with Katrina as well. The Weather Channel is a 24/7 proposition but for the most part, weather is boring. It's raining, it's cloudy, the sun is out, it's hotter than hell, it's freezing. Then there are the tornados and hurricanes and other natural disasters like earthquakes/tsunamis and volcanoes. But these are, thankfully rare. However, something has to fill up the 24/7 format.

We have been catastrophizing and click baiting for so long we are used to the fake news and not believing anything any longer. We do NOT trust our "authorities" to be anything more than simple talking heads who are only interested in eyes on the screen/page.

So, like the Boy Who Cried Wolf, no one listens.

I'm trying to be adult and have watched the models and tried to be secure in my own choices from the "facts" which I can't be sure are facts. But, the National Geophysical Survey thing says I'm higher enough to be in a different category, I'm twenty miles from the coast, I'm a couple miles from the nearest river, and we didn't float away in Matthew even with record rains of over two feet.

Bob's house flooded because he is built into a dip on the other side of the street. Our back yard had some standing water, less than Angela's because of downhill movement.

I'm hoping I made the right choice, but there is no way to really know until next week.

At least my son is out of the danger zone and if we have to travel, instead of going to Dick's sister in Florida, we can go and see Craig in southernmost South Carolina.

I'm a bit nervous but I would be even if we had already evacuated. It's the getting back home that is the most worrisome. Once you leave, they don't let you back.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 13, 2018, 04:26:09 AM
Making some last minute charging.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 13, 2018, 08:13:07 AM


I'm a bit nervous but I would be even if we had already evacuated. It's the getting back home that is the most worrisome. Once you leave, they don't let you back.

Are you guys under mandatory evacuation? I had no idea you could opt out of that until the Thomas Fire.
That's part of the reason we didn't leave during the fire, Patti. I have friends who weren't allowed home for three weeks! Three weeks away from home in December with a pet sounds like an expensive nightmare to me. Staying put worked out for us. I hope it works out for you too.


Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 13, 2018, 08:22:12 AM
Darren and I had been married less than a month when the Navy sent him on a job to Hawaii. I joined him there and we spent a fabulous week on Kauai. Our last day on Kauai, we were miffed that we were turned away from a hiking trail on the coast because Jurassic Park was being filmed there. That evening we flew back to Oahu and rented a car at the airport and heard for the first time that a hurricane was headed our direction.

The day after that we woke up to an alarm in the Outrigger Hotel and were ordered to return our car rental and told that no cars were allowed in the underground garage.

Darren's family was going to have a family reunion later that week, so we tried to get a flight off the island, so we wouldn't be stranded in Hawaii. All flights that weren’t booked, were cancelled and major airlines were flying their aircraft off the islands, so we were stuck. We went back to the hotel and were told to take our furniture off the lanai and to fill everything that could hold water up with water. We tried to get supplies from the local stores but there was nothing left except beer and cigarettes wherever we went. We bought beer with no intention of drinking it until after the storm passed.

 Then we waited.

 It was terrifying to stay in beachfront property that was about to be broadsided by Hurricane Iniki. Luckily for us, Iniki hit Kauai, sparing Oahu the brunt of the storm but the winds howling through hotel corridors were deafening and the first floor of the hotel flooded even with industrial sized sump pumps dispersed throughout.

The next day the beach was littered with Man O’ War jellyfish.

It was quite an experience. We had some great video taped footage that is probably ruined by now because we didn’t convert it to DVD.

That was in 1992. In 1994, our house was moved 3 inches off the foundation during the Northridge Quake and my family nicknamed Darren and I, the Double D Disaster Casters. Casters? Didn’t make sense to me. That nickname wore off and didn’t re-appear during the Thomas Fire.

Still, if I had my druthers, I’ll take an earthquake any day because you don’t have to await impending doom.

~Deb

I'm beginning to question my stance on that. :-\
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 13, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
Caster as in a caster of spells?  A summoner of disasters?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 13, 2018, 01:33:58 PM
The impending doom aspect is wearing on me. The storm's path is inching this way and that way and winds are up and down and it's just like the Sword of Damocles hovering there. I won't know if we chose correctly for days. Some forecasts say we will get lots and lots of rain and strong gusts of wind and some say nothing will happen at all.

I'm unhappy with this whole mess. The Weather Gods do not care.

So, I'm going to have another cup of coffee.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 13, 2018, 08:23:57 PM
We are but playthings for the gods.  And that's if they even notice us.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 14, 2018, 03:40:05 AM
The storm is really coming tomorrow.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Vienna on September 14, 2018, 09:32:28 AM
Champagne for everybody on me today.  Our lad Kilian Jeremy Dalton is 7 years old, born on this day in 2011 at 6.58am, weighing in at 4150 Grammes.


cheers everyone and raise a glass to our lad eh!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on September 14, 2018, 09:41:13 AM
Happy Birthday, Killian.

He's already 7, jeez, it doesn't seem like long ago that you were announcing him to us back at the old bar.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 14, 2018, 11:05:03 AM
Seven is a great age. It's the age of zero to only slightly developed filters. You never know what words of wisdom will come out of a seven year old's mouth. If you want the truth, ask a seven year old.


Happy Birthday Killian!



Cheers Vienna.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 14, 2018, 01:15:09 PM
Happy birthday, Killian. What a great age.
May the year be filled with learning many new and wondrous things.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 14, 2018, 01:49:04 PM
I just took a look at the forum board. There are way too many DGSquared's out there. :o  ::)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 14, 2018, 07:15:50 PM
This happens when someone is catching up after a long absence ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 15, 2018, 06:32:57 AM
Fell asleep just after 8 PM yesterday after a trying day in the city.  Woke up at midnight, had supper, shed my clothes and went back to bed properly.  Awake again at five, with not even a hint of dawn's grey in the sky.

Having had a drink and crumpets, and my morning cocktail of pills I am no longer as disorientated as I felt at midnight.

Every time I go into Southampton I like it less and less, and the buildings seem to get taller each time.  Going through it on the way to ferry or to a specific location is bearable, but the damned place doesn't really suit me, and the huge modern shops totally destroy my sense of direction.

When I escaped from IKEA - I may write this tale up later today - I took a familiar route through one of the smaller shopping malls, where one row of shops is still the cleaned up frontage of an old street, Manchester Terrace, which survived the bombing in WW2.  I can remember when the terrace was still a proper street, open to the sky, not tucked away under one huge roof.  I remember when there were steps leading down to basements, and coal chutes in the pavements for delivery to underground coal bunkers, and stuff like that.

Walking though a well remembered route from sixty years back, whilst surrounded by nail bars, eyebrow threading and foot massage parlours, and countless phone shops, and seeing shop names which didn't exist even a mere ten years ago was  disorientating.  But it still felt heaps better than my short visit to IKEA.

Waiting at the bus stop to escape back home I was reminded how the Chinese have no concept of personal space.  But at least the buses back home went together like the pieces of a simple jigsaw puzzle.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 15, 2018, 08:26:32 AM
I find it sad that commercialism has taken the charm and character out of so many communities. The Mom and Pop shops are all but gone. In the crush of all the companies that push their way into every nook and cranny of the globe, more and more towns look generic. We see the same logos everywhere and so often, it all becomes bland. Starbucks, Verizon, Apple, IKEA, AT&T, McDonald's, Exxon, etc. The same thing everywhere. It ruins some of the spice of life.


When I go into the town where I was born, I constantly get lost because I don't recognize any of the old landmarks. They are either gone or drowned out by what has become the generic looking advertising of the over populated stores that surround them.


~Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 15, 2018, 12:09:52 PM
Ah, the old days of stay at home moms barefoot in the kitchen, making bread and pies from scratch. The days of polio and TB and wild abandon. I remember being able to walk to the chocolates making store in downtown, about two to three miles from my house. Marcia and I would take fifty cents each and toddle off to buy some candy, usually completely eaten before we even got home.

Home to our totally non-diverse neighborhood filled with people exactly like us. Filled with free ranging kids who went outside to play because there were only three channels on television and no internet. We had such fun making up our own games. I broke my collarbone. Marcia needed stitches in her forehead. (You should see the amount of blood that drips down the face when you split your head open.)

Ah, yes. I remember the old days.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 16, 2018, 05:53:58 AM
Wide awake and far too early for this time of year.  It's still dark outside.

Two months ago I would have gladly sat outside in the garden at this time of day, reading and listening to the birds singing, enjoying the day before the sun got too vicious for this old polar bear.
 
But the big advantages of living alone is I can get up when I'm awake, and not worry about disturbing anyone else.  Or stay up all night writing if the mood takes me and be a bit grouchy or sleepy the next day without having take anyone else into account.

I can bumble around checking mails etc, finish spin drying my washing, and as soon as it gets light enough to see what the day may bring decide whether not not to peg it out on the line.

I can't play music too loud because my office shares a wall with the lady next door, but on the other side there's a gap before the next bungalow so I don't have to worry about the sound of the washing machine disturbing the lady on that side.

Right now I'm going to lounge around in the sitting room, finish my drink, read a book, and see what the day brings.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 16, 2018, 09:13:35 AM
Bones, give me a large mug of steaming lemon tea and a couple of slices of toast if you'd be so kind.

It's only ten past nine in the morning and it feels as if I've been awake for hours.

I shall sit by the window and watch the world go by until it makes some kind of sense.  This could take some time as not much of the world goes past my window on a Sunday morning ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 16, 2018, 12:50:53 PM
We got some rain yesterday. Not a deluge, but just some rain.

And it got breezy. Not wild winds, but a bit breezy.

We have to put the entire house back the way it usually sits, with outdoor furniture and decorations.

I should be glad we didn't get anything more than some rain and wind, but I'm mostly disgusted with a culture that inspires fear for ratings.

Where the storm actually hit suffered a reasonable amount of damage. Along the coast there was storm surge and wind damage, too. But to put this many people into a state of panic and evict them from their homes for five days seems a bit too dramatic.

But I truly am happy that we are safe and dry and the lights never even flickered.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 16, 2018, 01:17:45 PM
Me too, Patti. Glad you're safe and I'm also sick of the fear mongering.

They have, "THE BIG ONE IS OVERDUE" run in the papers and on the news at least once a year. Yes, we should be prepared, but telling us that thousands will die won't get people off the freeways. I actually have a mild phobia about being stuck in traffic on, or under a bridge, and try to avoid it if at all possible.

 Look at the bright side, you can rearrange your yard furniture and decorations. :-\ :D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 16, 2018, 02:18:45 PM
And now, back to my regularly unscheduled life. Gym tomorrow, I believe.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 17, 2018, 02:33:01 AM
I am back and my throat's sore.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 17, 2018, 06:52:47 AM
I haven't left (recently) and so does mine.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 17, 2018, 07:53:35 AM
Germ carriers.

I have no sore throat, dodged that sucker this year
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 17, 2018, 08:28:29 AM
I had my flu shot. I wash my hands, too often.  Whenever I go to a place with a salad bar or barffet, or anywhere that multiple people touch a serving spoon, after I fill my plate, I have to wash my hands before I can eat.  Some people think that's extreme. I think it's common sense. Just like, after you wash your hands, you don't touch the door handle as you leave the bathroom. Defeats the purpose.

My aunt became annoyed at me for that one. She says I made her a germaphobe. 

I disagree. I made her aware.  ;) 

This summer while on vacation in Washington, I saw a sticker with illustrations, affixed to a mirror in a restroom that said:
"All employees are required to wash hands berfore returning to work.
1. Wet your hands
2. Apply soap
3. Rub your hands together for 15 to 20 seconds
4. Rinse hands
5. Dry hands with paper towel
6. Turn off water with the paper towel you have used"


That's it! Why not add, "Then open the door with the paper towel and toss it in the trash as you walk out the door"?




Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 17, 2018, 08:38:54 AM
I'm a hand washer too. If I am cooking at home and I cough, sneeze, anything like that I wash my hands straight away. I wash them if I pick up the kids and have to head to the kitchen, like you said, it makes sense. But I also love to get the kids outside and see them in the dirt and the mud and the dogs. Nothing like the taste of their first mud pie. You can be careful where ever you go, just not manic. I don't hold the rail on stairs and escalators  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 17, 2018, 08:57:34 AM
Well... mud. That's a completely different beast. You haven't lived if you haven't baked and tasted a mud pie.  ;)


One of the first friends I made was at Edwards Air Force Base. I was three. A wooden fence separated me and the little girl next door. We turned the hose on by the fence and passed mud pies back and forth to each other under the fence. I remember thinking, "This is my best friend in the whole world!"

We relocated when my stepdad went to Vietnam.  That little girl and I only met face to face once, but we became best buddies by way of mud pies and my dog, Dammit.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 17, 2018, 12:05:55 PM
I don't worry too much about germs. I mean, I do wash my hands after I use the toilet and all, but then ... I'm pretty laissez faire about the whole thing. I figure it helps build up immunity.

I watch people swish that antibiotic rag on the handle of the store cart and I want to scream. Have you read the directions? You can't just swipe. That only kills the weak and baby germies and lets the bigger, badder ones remain to breed and make more of the bigger, badder ones.

That's why hand sanitizer may be the reason we have MRSA. It says "for 30 seconds" on it but that's a really long time when you are doing nothing. Time it, if you doubt me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 18, 2018, 12:29:05 AM
Thirty seconds does seem like a long time. It isn't, but it seems like it when you're waiting for it to pass.

I don't use those wipes on the baskets. I use one on my hands after I've returned the cart.

It's the bottom of the cart people should look out for. Blood from meat, spilled milk, spittle, etc.  I've seen people change baby diapers in the carts. Eww!

When we taught the kids to wash their hands, we had them sing their ABC's while they washed and could start rinsing the soap off at, W.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 18, 2018, 12:47:27 AM
No hand sanitisers or germy wipes here. Just sink soap and sensible hygiene for me.
I do have serious issues with mouths and noses hence the whole don't touch the rail thing but that's just me. I don't sit on public toilets either  :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 18, 2018, 01:16:17 AM
Chrome refreshing the tabs are annoyinhg.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 18, 2018, 02:32:29 AM
No hand sanitisers or germy wipes here. Just sink soap and sensible hygiene for me.
I do have serious issues with mouths and noses hence the whole don't touch the rail thing but that's just me. I don't sit on public toilets either  :o

Every toilet needs a party hat, (https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-7276/Bathroom-Supplies/Toilet-Seat-Covers?pricode=WA9242&gadtype=pla&id=S-7276&gclid=Cj0KCQjwof3cBRD9ARIsAP8x70NyXCnSOd4tBInxvHVjBlu8U_nf_hVYlizlKVUWBwlzGHDUIlzvbEQaAhgyEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) tissues, or the ability to squatted over.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 18, 2018, 02:33:16 AM
 ;D ;D

I carry them in my bag in little packets
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 18, 2018, 05:52:49 AM
Party hats?  :P ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 18, 2018, 12:08:49 PM
I'm not that worried. Perhaps I will die of some flesh eating bacteria pretty soon.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 18, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
We will grieve  and drink to your demise as we do
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 18, 2018, 02:13:40 PM
I'm drinking to my own demise.  8)

Patti, if you go out due to a flesh eating disease, I'll kill you.  ;D

No matter what, we'll have some coffee and a toast in your honor.

Coffee with toast. Sounds good.
I'd be hungry if you hadn't brought up flesh eating disease.

When I go, I want you lot to send me off with a toast of your liking.

Friggin' morbid. I have to make my doctor's appointment TODAY!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 18, 2018, 02:46:21 PM
I had a doctor's appointment for last Wednesday, but since we were under a mandatory evacuation, it was cancelled.

I made for tomorrow because I thought we were going to Bluffton on Thursday. Looks like I'm leaving for kid duty in a few hours, so I had to cancel it again.

I am scheduled for next Wednesday. I sure as hell hope I can get there.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 18, 2018, 03:06:16 PM
I hope everything is okay, Patti.


Kid duty? How old are the grand-kids now?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 18, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
Bluffton sounds like a town full of poker players.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 18, 2018, 04:43:23 PM
It's on a river bluff ... I guess. It's situated above the May River.


This is the son with just a single kid and she is 9 now.
The other kids are 12, 14, and 15.

The parents are going to Utah for some conference thing. We are handing Frankie off to the other grandparents on Friday.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 18, 2018, 11:37:14 PM
Man they have all grown fast haven't they.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 19, 2018, 04:12:50 AM
School is closed for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 20, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
Strange things that happened on the train today:

- it was really busy, so the only seat I could get was a fold out one opposite the toilet. I watched people go in and hour for an hour. Just before we pulled into the station, a man went in, screamed, and then came out again, apparently completely unperturbed.

- I saw a young Japanese lady whose hair had been dyed and styled to look like a giant peach. I think it was her everyday hair, not a costume. The yellow-orange-pink shades were surprisingly attractive on her (being as I am a big fan of glossy black hair), but it was just as shiny as a peach (ie, no shine at all)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 21, 2018, 04:38:39 AM
I will have to use that description for a character sometime.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 21, 2018, 06:02:52 AM
Amie, you should hang out at any, Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) station, in San Francisco. You are guaranteed to see at least three strange looking people or behaviors, in the span of five minutes or less.  I promise.

Story to follow elsewhere. Not that this is not a worthy place...

Oh fork it!

Bones, please open a bottle of Merlot, and hand it to me with a chilled glass. And I don't want the cheap stuff. I want to be comfortably numb. That has nothing to do with this conversation, it's just what I want at the moment.

Big tip in it for you.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 21, 2018, 09:56:05 AM
This was in London, but there are not as many unusual characters as you might expect.

I have to admit, I was mainly transfixed because I was trying to work out if she’d be more attractive with her natural hair. I love Japanese hair - so lovely and straight and black and shiny. So at first glance, it seemed an abomination to me to destroy such naturally beautiful hair - particularly as it was clear that the bleaching had caused a lot of damage, and her hair looked like straw.

But, the more I looked (sorry, people-watching, guilty), the more I thought that the peach-head suited her. Maybe even the lack of sheen. Her outfit was very stylish and looked like a one-off.

I dunno. My hair used to be naturally very shiny, but as I age, I have to be very gentle with it maintain the barest sheen. I wish I’d been able to trade hair with her, as I’d love to have that thick black perfectly straight super-shiny hair that I expect she started with. My hair would be much easier to bleach than hers, being in poorer condition :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 22, 2018, 01:51:10 AM
I want to go to London one day.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 22, 2018, 08:03:06 AM
I want to go to London one day.
Me too.


Amie, if you rinse your hair in cold water, after you've washed it, it adds to the sheen/shine, of any color hair.
 Since your hair is dark, it is thicker than mine, so I don't know how these home-made masks will work for you, but if you're feeling adventurous, here's a link (https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Your-Hair-Smooth-and-Shiny-with-Milk-and-Eggs) to some I've used successfully, and although messier, I substitute crushed avocado for olive oil. I haven't tried the honey mixture but the first one on the list is my favorite hair boost. My hair feels stronger, it's bouncier, holds a curl better, and has a nice lustre for a little over a week after I use it.

All of the masks are gooey, so prepare for the mess.
         
When I want to look my best for a special occasion, I always use a mask on my hair. I wouldn't advise it until you've tried them to see how your hair reacts.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 22, 2018, 09:32:23 AM
Thanks Deb. Actually, my actual hair strands are really fine. Hairdressers have been commenting on this since I was a teenager - my hair is baby fine, but there are a freakish number of follicles, so the overall effect is that it looks like I have a normal overall amount of hair. I have a combination of hypertrichosis and super-fine hair. It was cool when I was young (makes your hair thick and soft, like a cat’s fur :) ), but now I’m older, the fine follicles are very prone to sun damage.

I will try out your masks. I’ve tried some commercial ones that were blah. I’ve started putting sunscreen in my hair regularly, and keratin oil, and they both seem to help. I’ve also cut the washing way down - I used to have to wash it twice a day (oily as well as super-fine), but these days I “wash” it with conditioner every other day instead.

My hair doesn’t look terrible, it just needs about ten times as much effort to keep it from looking like a ratty straw nest than it did to keep it looking shiny and healthy when I was young :)

And now you know more than you ever dreamt you might want to know about my hair :)

Japanese ladies don’t seem to get this problem as they get older.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 22, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
I just remembered, when I was a contestant in a pageant (strictly to add to my resume to show poise, because I wanted to be a flight attendant) I was given a treatment before a permanent called an, ApHogee. It was fabulous! Cost a lot at the time.  My thin, lifeless, teenage hair went from, blah, to, ooh-la-la! Never had the need to want to look as good as I possibly could again until Darren and my wedding, but I was too busy to squeeze it in.


I've also heard a Brazilian Blowout is fabulous but I've only seen it done on course haired women with beautiful results. I have no idea what it does to thin hair.

Let me know how things work out.

~Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 22, 2018, 03:33:25 PM
I have gray lifeless long hair that just hangs there. Unless I tie it up in some way, which I always do for the gym but also in real life when it gets too hot.

I think I really stopped caring how it looked when it went gray. I assume no one is really looking any more, so what the hell.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 22, 2018, 04:04:57 PM
We had a young girl who worked at the bakery for a while in the shop.  She was a lovely kid, but an absolutely classic 'dumb blonde'. (With flowing golden locks which she totally worshipped.  Her sole topic of conversation was her hair.)

One of the other women suggested that the best way to look after blonde hair was to wash it with egg white and then thoroughly rinse it all out.  She was delighted with this tip.

Sadly the lady who told her this didn't specify you needed to use cold water to rinse it out.  I'm sure it wasn't deliberate, the other lass didn't have a cruel bone in her whole body.

The next day poor blondie was like a Zombie, saying she'd been 'sat up until 2AM trying to comb the horrible snotty lumps' out of her hair' after hot water had congealed the egg white.  She was so distressed we refrained from laughing in front of her.  Poor kid.

I must say she was the closest I've ever seen to a truly 'dumb blonde', as opposed to those who have the occasional 'blonde moment', or who play the part for all it's worth whilst being pretty damned smart underneath their disguise.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 22, 2018, 04:35:02 PM
Another thing I’ve noticed as I get older is that I am getting sloppier about using the same word twice in a sentence (eg “”Actually, my actual hair...”). I used to be fanatical about checking, and find synonyms or re-phrase, but now I miss them. Or don’t bother to change them, if it’s not going into print. I sent an informal job offer yesterday, and used the words “informal”, “formal” and “formality” in the space of two sentences.

I hang my head in shame :(
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 22, 2018, 05:27:18 PM
I don't usually see the usage/reuse of words until it is in print. On the screen, it all seems tenuous and changeable or something and it doesn't register. But when I see it in print, I'm horrified.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 22, 2018, 08:35:13 PM
This is why I always recommend serious final proofreading be done on a printout.  Ideally in a different font to the one you normally use on-screen.  There are those who tell me they can proofread perfectly will unscreen, but I'm not convinced ;-)

The theory is that forcing your eyes and brain out of the familiar comfort zone makes your brain a little more alert.  I think it may be a mental gearshift.  In front of your computer you are generally in writing mode, so reading paper definitely changes gear.

Those who tell me it makes no difference are generally younger.  So perhaps they have read a lot more onscreen than I have.  My brain is still programmed for hard copy.  I am prepared to believe this may make a difference.

A printout is also a tangible physical object, so is somehow more 'finished' and you see it as such instead of a mutable 'work in progress', which your subconscious tells you can be easily corrected later with a few strokes.

Gyppo
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 23, 2018, 12:17:37 AM
I do the same thing. I find it helps if I read what I've written out-loud, but that isn't always convenient, or rather, it is inconvenient for others.

I wrote a story the other day about, Great Uncle Bet, and used the word, "Suddenly" in three paragraphs! I corrected the mistake but the entire story reads amateurish to me now.

I'm finding that I'm making stupid punctuation mistakes. It's maddening. I used to take pride in being sharp but the instincts are dulling at an alarming rate. ??? :o :( >:(
 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 23, 2018, 02:53:39 AM
I am done with pajama day for a while.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 23, 2018, 01:24:29 PM
My favorite way to start a new paragraph is "However" and it sits there paragraph after paragraph mocking me in every printout.

I need to make a list of other ways to say however
on the other hand
in spite of this
even so
blah blah blah
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 23, 2018, 02:04:48 PM
However you want to do it, regardless of the delivery, it goes to show, as you can see, no matter what, in spite of this silliness, on the other hand, however, I should stop my roll. 8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 23, 2018, 05:33:22 PM
Today's moving so well.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 24, 2018, 11:42:01 AM
It's back to my regular schedule this week. I like that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 24, 2018, 09:51:45 PM
I’ve been in audits today. I am on holiday on Thursday (ish)

One of my colleagues wrote some scary unintelligeable gibberish meant as an aid to our clients. Our marketing manager suggested that it might be better if it were not scary and unintelligeable. So I offered an edited version. She said, “Much better!”and asked my colleague to confirm he was happy with it. He pouted a bit and came up with various excuses why his version was better (I didn’t understand them either), and effectively said he was hurt that we were second-guessing him. Finally I told him, “you go with what you like, but if this is intended to help people, I guarantee you if I had received this communication when I was in that job I would have had to sit down for a good cry”

He has not yet responded.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 24, 2018, 10:05:26 PM
Oh dear.

At least they can thrash it out and do the back-stabbing and the 'weeping and wailing and rending of clothes' whilst you're on holiday.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 24, 2018, 10:19:19 PM
Let them at it. I get so tired when people ask for my “help” when want they really mean is that they want my mindless endorsement. If you want to do want you want to do, do it. But don’t ask me to be a cheerleader of things I disagree with.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 24, 2018, 10:26:12 PM
Well spoken.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 25, 2018, 12:18:10 AM
My cough won't leave.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 25, 2018, 02:40:18 AM
Have you shown it the door?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 25, 2018, 05:53:17 AM
 Frank sneaks in

Psst,barman gimme a strong pint o beer

Dear mister wizard of Oz it was Gyppo that angered you,not I

Environment Canada confirmed a 3rd tornado touched down Friday ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 25, 2018, 12:08:02 PM
Hey, Frank is trying to hog all the tornados.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 25, 2018, 01:34:55 PM
If he keeps on like this we'll have to rename him Mister Twister.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 25, 2018, 02:18:27 PM
I like that
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: ST on September 25, 2018, 04:58:56 PM
Ha ha hahaa @  Mister Twister!   Love it, third the vote!

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 25, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
What's on the menu today?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 25, 2018, 08:08:42 PM
Blue skies with a dash of tomfoolery.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 26, 2018, 12:43:33 AM
I'll take any drink not stirred...


6th Tornado now confirmed :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 26, 2018, 03:17:54 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

Love it Francis
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 26, 2018, 05:53:18 AM
I think I may have discovered the hair secret: sweat!

I went to hot yoga last night, got drenched with sweat (including hair obviously), took shower and washed hair as normal and - my hair looks amazing!! Honestly, it’s so straight and shiny (another thing that’s been happening as I get older is that my once straight hair is becoming wavy and prone to frizziness - but right now it’s really straight and smooth again. Which is definitely not normal immediately after it’s been washed)

Either that or the water in Milton Keynes has hair super powers (I’m away from home on business)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 26, 2018, 06:42:19 AM


I've started dreaming of running my hands through my soft and luxurious brindle coloured hair...My subconscious is obviously jealous of Pigs fur 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 26, 2018, 06:44:12 AM
What kind of dog is Pigs? I didn’t think you’d get brindle patterns on long hairs?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 26, 2018, 06:47:50 AM
He's a jack Russel beagle.As he's aged he's become more black and Tan.. people oft confuse him for a German Shepherd
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 26, 2018, 07:37:03 AM
I think I may have discovered the hair secret: sweat!

I went to hot yoga last night, got drenched with sweat (including hair obviously), took shower and washed hair as normal and - my hair looks amazing!! Honestly, it’s so straight and shiny (another thing that’s been happening as I get older is that my once straight hair is becoming wavy and prone to frizziness - but right now it’s really straight and smooth again. Which is definitely not normal immediately after it’s been washed)

Either that or the water in Milton Keynes has hair super powers (I’m away from home on business)

Milton Keynes is where Ma lived Amie, She loved it there
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on September 26, 2018, 07:48:39 AM
I never knew that. I’ve been about 20 times over the past 6 or 7 years - I wonder if I ever passed her on the street.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on September 26, 2018, 11:29:45 AM
Shockingly, I may end up writing today.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Laura on September 26, 2018, 11:58:19 AM
Ah, I remember writing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 26, 2018, 01:04:24 PM
I never knew that. I’ve been about 20 times over the past 6 or 7 years - I wonder if I ever passed her on the street.

Wow, that's amazing. She talked about it a lot but more in the bar etc. You very well may have Amie
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 26, 2018, 01:12:36 PM
I think I may have discovered the hair secret: sweat!

I went to hot yoga last night, got drenched with sweat (including hair obviously), took shower and washed hair as normal and - my hair looks amazing!! Honestly, it’s so straight and shiny (another thing that’s been happening as I get older is that my once straight hair is becoming wavy and prone to frizziness - but right now it’s really straight and smooth again. Which is definitely not normal immediately after it’s been washed)

Either that or the water in Milton Keynes has hair super powers (I’m away from home on business)


I sweat on my hair five times a week and I don't really think that's the magic here. It really could be the difference in water. At my older sister's house in Arizona (which also has a completely different humidity) my hair is very different than here at home. In northern Ohio, which has the same humidity, it is slightly different. I think the local water and the amount of humidity makes a difference.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on September 26, 2018, 07:22:53 PM
Shockingly, I may end up writing today.

Also, I've finally left my last place of work for good. Yay.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 26, 2018, 08:25:39 PM
You retired already?


It's soul sucking to have a job you hate.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 26, 2018, 10:24:05 PM
Shockingly, I may end up writing today.

Also, I've finally left my last place of work for good. Yay.

You were there a long time too weren't you Ollie?

What you going to do now mate?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on September 26, 2018, 10:27:00 PM
Just returned from putting grandsons (6 & 9) to bed in Manchester. Found out later that they'd hidden an iPad upstairs, got into one bed and quietly played a game until mum found them. Haha. In my youth it was a book that I'd read with a torch under the sheets. How times change.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 26, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
 ;D ;D

Amazing how clever they are on them too Geoff.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 26, 2018, 10:50:40 PM
I remember Mum took my night time reading torch away when I was quite young, but I made a substitute with a spare bicycle bulb, a single cell battery, and a bit of wire.  Held together with that old fashioned cloth insulating tape.  I hid it down the side of the mattress

It was that sticky tape which finally betrayed me.  Unlike the modern plastic tape it was sticky on both sides, so when Mum decided it was time to strip the beds for washing she yanked the sheet out and the 'torch' came with it, hanging onto the sheet.

Dad was rather amused by my ingenuity and they decided to let me have my proper torch back.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 27, 2018, 12:11:00 AM
I want some steak.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 27, 2018, 11:40:06 AM
Publix and/or Kroger sells them ready to grill. They also have potatoes to bake with them. You can also get a prepared salad to go along with that if you were hoping for something healthy.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on September 27, 2018, 06:49:29 PM
Shockingly, I may end up writing today.

Also, I've finally left my last place of work for good. Yay.

You were there a long time too weren't you Ollie?

What you going to do now mate?

It felt like I was there forever.

For now, I'm going to think. I may do something eventually.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 27, 2018, 10:35:06 PM
 ;D

Yep good approach I say mate
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 28, 2018, 03:28:47 AM
Shockingly, I may end up writing today.

Also, I've finally left my last place of work for good. Yay.

You were there a long time too weren't you Ollie?

What you going to do now mate?

It felt like I was there forever.

For now, I'm going to think. I may do something eventually.

I can hire you,all you have to do is keep mother nature at bay
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 28, 2018, 04:17:53 AM
I'm on Amino now.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: thatollie on September 28, 2018, 04:20:30 AM
Sorry Frank, I always cause more bad weather than I prevent.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 28, 2018, 06:04:20 AM
Yes me and Mother Nature work well together at times
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on September 28, 2018, 06:54:34 AM
Sorry Frank, I always cause more bad weather than I prevent.

But seriously 6 tornadoes in one day,2 within city limits😱😱
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 28, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
We had a "That was not a tornado" storm that took down one tree that landed across the roof of our car and smushed it, blowing out the back window and bending the frame, thus totalling the car. And a second tree landed on our roof of the house, rolled off, and smushed our air conditioning unit.

Neither of the trees were on our property, we just lost branches in the storm, one of them hitting the frame of the huge living room picture window, but missing the glass itself so the window didn't break.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 28, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
That was when we still lived up in Ohio.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 29, 2018, 12:52:34 AM
Sims 4 is calling me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 29, 2018, 06:04:04 AM
Yes me and Mother Nature work well together at times

You are a force of nature, perhaps, Auntie Nature.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 29, 2018, 11:47:28 AM
She's Anti Something, that's for sure.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 29, 2018, 11:50:10 AM
She's Anti Something, that's for sure.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 29, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
Anti-Podean?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 29, 2018, 02:19:58 PM
We best be careful. I hear she can throw an ax with precision. 8)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 29, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
So can I, but it would be one hell of a long throw ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 29, 2018, 03:22:24 PM
I live in 'Merica and have guns which are a bit more threatening than mere axes or even exes.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on September 29, 2018, 07:30:24 PM
As a former emergency room nurse I bet you've seen plenty of instances where a gun has done some damage but failed to live up to its 'always lethal' image.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on September 29, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
I've finished writing another zany science fiction novella (SUPPOSE WE) and had beta readers slash and hack at it until we're all happy and delighted with it. Now I have to persuade famous busy writers to read a short bit and comment. So far none have replied - as usual. Too busy. I might need to use quotes from my other books where they comment on my style rather than content :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on September 29, 2018, 11:15:16 PM
My throat is so sore.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on September 30, 2018, 02:27:51 AM
Well in my defence, maybe I zig at times when I really should have zagged  :o
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 30, 2018, 07:24:17 AM
Guns don't make me feel any safer for the mere fact that at any place, any time in the USA, you or a loved one can be a shooting victim of random violence.

"Every day, 96 Americans are killed with guns and hundreds more are shot and injured. The effects of gun violence extend far beyond these casualties—gun violence shapes the lives of millions of Americans who witness it, know someone who was shot, or live in fear of the next shooting." ~Every Town Reasearch (https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-america/)

I grew up with guns, my M-I-L used to own a shooting range in Redlands, California. My step-dad,  uncles, and grandpa hunted. My cousin, John and I played with BB guns and shot at beer cans when we were kids. Playing with BB guns was a shared delight between my cousin and I but I would give it all up in an instant if gun control could have avoided any of the school killings and deaths of other innocents. 

When I first moved in with my aunt and uncle, my aunt nearly shot me one night when I went sleep walking into her bedroom. She had the gun pointed at me, finger on the trigger. Two of my classmates committed suicide by shotgun. One was my first friend in Fillmore. I met him when I was thirteen. He suffered depression and killed himself about 20 years ago.

 The other friend was the City of Fillmore Fire Chief, Rigo Landeros  (http://archive.vcstar.com/news/local/fillmore/officials-confirm-fillmore-fire-chief-committed-suicide-in-city-car-on-duty-2a54d257-63b5-5ebe-e053--366924171.html). He and I were putting together an emergency preparedness presentation for high school students and parents, two weeks before Christmas, 2015. On January 7th, 2016 he offed himself with a shotgun. He seemed happy and when you asked him how he was doing, he always replied, "Living the dream." He was always helping out somehow and was a man of integrity. The city was in shock because Rigo was a much loved member of the community.

Columbine, Sandy Hook, Vegas, Florida... Why can't we get a sensible grip?
Most gun owners are responsible but there are too many wild cards and pissed off, desperate people in America. The NRA doesn't want to stop semiautomatic rifles? WTH?

I have seriously considered moving to a country with sane gun laws but my husband isn't budging.

Yes, guns are ingrained in American culture but it's a culture gone awry.

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Written before semiautomatic rifles were manufactured.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on September 30, 2018, 11:10:26 AM
I never worked ER, but I did work ICU/CCU and OR and saw a fair share of botched suicide attempts. There were a number of overdoses who were on ventilators for a while before recovering so drugs aren't a sure thing.

I know a woman whose husband went into the back yard with a shotgun and blew his brains out while he sat on the picnic table. Messy, for sure.

Shotguns aren't really the best gun for that. So another guy had heard you were supposed to "eat your gun" and didn't point it backwards. So he blew the front of his face off. One of the plastic surgeons I worked with was an oral surgeon first and was perfectly situated to put the guy back together. This was just before I moved north, so I don't know the total outcome. But the victim looked really bad. If his life was bad when he had a face, I wondered what we were doing so that he wouldn't simply retry when we let him loose.

I took care of a guy who tried to slit his wrists, but didn't know the proper method and was apparently using a butter knife or something. He had about six to eight slices per forearm. None even close to lethal. He came to surgery for the knife wounds to his abdomen. That was a better knife and actually did some damage.

There are so many different ways to shuffle off this mortal coil. We can't eliminate them all. Maybe we should focus a bit more on mental health. Or at least, try to minimize some of the mental unhealth we currently support.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 30, 2018, 01:02:05 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, Patti. But I still don't see the need for semiautomatic rifles.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on September 30, 2018, 05:28:41 PM
A friend of mine with bipolar and other issues went into the woods with a chair from his kitchen. It must have looked odd, but it was a quiet place and maybe no one saw him. He slung a rope with a noose ready, over a branch just high enough to reach and tie off etc. As he stood on the chair ready to kick away the chair, he paused and listened to the sounds of the wood. He heard a woodpecker that was perhaps just a few trees distance. He first thought it was a semi-automatic. Somehow, realising that no, it wasn't a stupid human, like him, but a creature of the wild living its life as it only knew how. He felt foolish and selfish and walked home with a lighter step. A bit annoyed because it took him a long time finding a branch at just the right height.
That night he wrote it up in a blog. It went viral. He now has over 100,000 followers on twitter. Still has issues but not as suicidal as they were.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on September 30, 2018, 08:29:00 PM
That's a good outcome, Geoff.

I asked my doctor about people committing suicide on antidepressants. He told me that clinically depressed people aren't motivated to go through with it but when given an antidepressant, some will find the motivation to do so.  :o :-\

Depression runs in my family and in my husband's family.  My B-I-L, at 16, drove his car off a 350-foot cliff called, Dead Man's Curve, in a suicide pact with his best friend. He lost a foot but he lived, his best friend died at the scene. He was charged with, and found guilty of murder and the case went to the State Supreme Court. He was in YA three years when the State Supreme Court overturned the verdict. I was a Senior in high school when those boys drove off the cliff, my husband graduated three years prior.

We live in a small town and the story is well known by everyone who attended high school here at the time. Because my kids attended school here with other kids whose parents were in high school during this incident, I sat my boys down and told them about it. My M-I-L was furious with me but I wasn't going to lie to the boys or have them hear it from someone else. Besides, there is an article about it on the internet using the family name. They would find out eventually anyway. I don't know if she ever forgave me.

Because depression and addiction run on both my husband's paternal and my maternal side, I wanted our boys to be aware. I told them no matter how bad things may seem, give it some time, hang in there and things will get better. If you cross that line, there is no going back, and you'll never know the wonders you'll miss out on. That low of desperation will pass. Reach out for help. Don't face it alone.

Suicide never solves anything and it's devastating to the people who love and care about suicide victims, no one recovers from it.

EMDR (http://www.emdr.com/what-is-emdr/) helped me tremendously but I relapse from time to time because of PTSD. There is a new-ish treatment called TMS.
Here is a link ->   Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation. (https://hprtc.com/what-is-tms-therapy/)
Here (https://hprtc.com/videos/#dshowvid) is a video where, Trevor Noah, of the Daily Show, interviews Neal Brennan about depression and TMS. Sounds fascinating.

I think I might give it a try. I'm like Trevor Noah in the fact that I'm an optimist with depression, but I'm also, happy-go-lucky.

People don't understand that depression isn't about crying or moping around all the time. It's about feeling worthless, unlovable, useless, like a burden, unable to function, loss of interest in the things you enjoy, loss of motivation, lack of energy, avoidance, etc. Some may think the world or their families would be better off without them. Depressed people are often labeled as lazy. You hear, "Just get up and go already. Buck up. You're not trying hard enough." That always helps. NOT!

People need to recognize the signs. Sometimes, depressed people don't realize they're depressed, or that they've have relapsed back into depression. Because there is a lack of motivation when depressed, depressed people aren't motivated to get help.

Walk a mile in my shoes.

It can be therapeutic to help others in a volunteer capacity. I'm a volunteer artist for, Artists For Trauma (https://www.artistsfortrauma.org/), though it's been awhile since the last event.

I muddle through, with highs and lows, sometimes clumsily, and sometimes brilliantly.  I try to keep a good sense of humor about my own bouts of depression.

~Deb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 01, 2018, 12:38:31 AM
I'm still treating my cough.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Mastafrank on October 01, 2018, 05:28:19 AM
Deb I totally agree with you,as someone who battled depression and anxiety issues over a two year course, I was always waking up angry,many times I'd shout out loud for no reason. It felt like my brain was stuck on an endless loop.when i started stabbing my chair and having vivid nightmares I had had enough,i went and got help..

Fast forward 4 years later and I'm in a nice big apartment,my mood has stabilized.im still on 10 mg of ciprallex per day.

Yea I still have bad days,but I've learned to rationalize with myself
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 01, 2018, 12:19:14 PM
I was on Elavil for migraines. It is a mood elevator with a dosage of 10 to 300 milligrams. I was on 25 mg for a while and then dropped back to 10 mg without migraines. It did lessen the metallic taste that was a constant side effect.

I took it nightly and it really did make my migraines go away. It was the only pill I tool that could stop one, others could only barely manage to keep one from blowing up. Quitting my stressful job also worked, eventually. But that isn't today's story.

I was on Elavil for about six months. One day, I made it to work and mentioned how difficult it was to not drive my car head on into oncoming traffic. Just to see what killing and dying was like. It was interesting and it seemed like I should really try that.

Please note, I was not on the drug for mood elevation, but only to modify my serotonin levels.

I mentioned my suicidal/homicidal issue and they put me in a little room doing paperwork and nowhere near a patient. I had to call my doctor. Several of the nurses were on Prozac with a rash of suicides happening after taking the pills. They all stopped taking their meds after seeing the mess I was in.

My suicidal/homicidal urges stopped after just a couple days and the new drugs were not nearly as good at stopping migraines, but did not have that killer thing going on. I haven't had a migraine since I stopped being a nurse, not even on the day my mother died. So I'm blaming those OR lights for the whole mess. Well, not the killing ideation stuff, that was the drugs.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 01, 2018, 01:49:12 PM
Deb I totally agree with you,as someone who battled depression and anxiety issues over a two year course, I was always waking up angry,many times I'd shout out loud for no reason. It felt like my brain was stuck on an endless loop.when i started stabbing my chair and having vivid nightmares I had had enough,i went and got help..

Fast forward 4 years later and I'm in a nice big apartment,my mood has stabilized.im still on 10 mg of ciprallex per day.

Yea I still have bad days,but I've learned to rationalize with myself

I'm glad you were able to find the right medication, Frank. Depression is a bitch.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 01, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Keep fighting the good fight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 02, 2018, 11:27:26 AM
There are days when I just want to fight a bad fight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 02, 2018, 01:33:33 PM
Jeez Patti, I can't imagine you going, Mad max and the Thunder Dome, on anyone. ;D  I had migraines that required a dark room for hours, usually an entire day.

When, I began having daily headaches, I figured I'd better find something besides Excedrin Migraine and Motrin 800. I searched and read that Magnesium deficiency can lead to migraines. I started taking Magnesium supplements and viola! After two weeks, no more migraines.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 02, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
As soon as I quit working in OR, they stopped. They started soon after we went to lots of scopes using Xenon light sources, a very bright blue/white type of light.

I tried to get doctors to operate in the dark, and they refused.

With this new diagnosis and medication, I keep getting passing headaches, but they aren't anything like a migraine and there is no knife sticking out of my eye and my top of my head remains attached. So, I'm told it takes one to two weeks to acclimate to the drug. We'll see how that goes. I actually slept last night, so that's a plus.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 02, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Does your medication have side effects? I don't think magnesium does unless you dose too high but I think that's probably the case for any vitamin or drug.



Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 03, 2018, 02:54:58 AM
I need drugs for my coughing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 03, 2018, 06:15:53 AM
Noizchild, get some pure honey. Manuka is best. Honey is a natural antibiotic.



I finally got up the nerve to call and make an appointment with my doctor but he's out of the country until October 20th. So, I asked if we could get my blood work going and for a referral to a UCLA doctor. They said they'd call me back this afternoon. They didn't.  ???
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 03, 2018, 12:09:09 PM
I am speaking with a professional this afternoon. I feel pretty damn stupid. I used to be a professional myself. I should know things. I don't. I hate that.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 03, 2018, 12:13:40 PM
I am in India, on the beach.

Lots of people want to take photos with us. At first I thought it was some money scam, but in the end I just let them have a photo, because it was easier than saying no no no (and also because I couldn’t work out how they could scam us just by taking our photo)

I asked our host why they want photos with strangers. She said, “they get home and say ‘look at all these white people, wearing nothing on the beach!”

But, thing is, it’s the very beginning of the season. First day we were the only white people on the beach, and I noticed the Indian ladies were not wearing swimming costumes. So I went back in my hut and put on shorts and a t-shirt (as I noticed that seemed to be the minimum dress code - this was not actually significantly more clothing than my one piece and t-shirt, but I guess those few inches of thigh are pivotal.).

So what are they taking a picture of? A middle-aged white lady in shorts on the beach?

Another said I look like an upper class Indian lady, as my skin is light (by Indian standards) but my hair almost black. Apparently they like this combo, even in older ladies :)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on October 03, 2018, 10:57:28 PM
I might have wanted to take your photo too, although I think I would have been so much in awe at being in India that I would have forgotten how to photograph :)

Several writers suggested I wrote a blog about my meanderings in the corridors of copyright so here it is
https://geoffnelder.com/copyright-flutterbies/
A like would be appreciated.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on October 04, 2018, 02:48:43 AM
Liked, I will read it when time permits Geoff  ;D
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 04, 2018, 05:53:24 AM
That was a long chapter.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 04, 2018, 09:10:04 AM
Or could be Amie, that you just look glamorous, or is it, glamporous, since you're glamping?  ;) ;D


Geoff, have you seen many photos in which, Robert Graves, actually smiles? I went to your website and will read more later. Everything will be fine. :)

Noizchild, did you write a long chapter?


Patti, I know what you mean. In a twist of irony, shouldn't 'specialists' make you feel special? ;D


Bones, drinks and breakfast on me.

Cheers Folks!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 04, 2018, 12:07:34 PM
I was diagnosed, last Wednesday, with pre-diabetes. My number was high but not full blown high. I got put on oral diabetic medication and told to eat a "low carb" diet. I resist medical intervention most of the time, but I really like my brain and my toes, so I want to remain this side of the full diagnosis for as long as possible and keep everything happier for that time.

So I tried to find out what a "low carb" diet was and the internet sent me into a tizzy. Anywhere from 10 to 350 carbs was listed. Melons were verboten but watermelon was the best fruit to eat. Each and every webpage, even when using what looked like reasonable sites, gave different information.

I spoke with Lindsey, a friend of my son's who is a registered dietician, and I finally have some concrete answers to this apparently ephemeral problem.

I feel a bit better about it today. And the side effects of the medication seems to be diminishing as well so I'm finally sleeping a little bit again. So that helps.

On a really positive note, we won the trivia contest last night because *I* came up with the answer.

There are only two countries in the world that have the letters "olo"in them and I got the second one! That earned us the six points and we didn't lose the six points everyone else did and we won by 15 points!!!!

If you want, I can tell you the answer too. I will put it in the last person to post thread.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 04, 2018, 01:43:10 PM
Patti, I'm sorry to hear about your pre-diabetes, but am happy for you that is is not full blown diabetes. Get well. That is an order!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on October 04, 2018, 01:51:32 PM
I was diagnosed, last Wednesday, with pre-diabetes. My number was high but not full blown high. I got put on oral diabetic medication and told to eat a "low carb" diet.

Patti, better the devil you know than one which runs unchecked through your system.

"Head 'em off at the pass."
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: geoffnelder on October 04, 2018, 02:16:27 PM
Sorry to hear about your pre-d, Patti. I've a few pals who had that then beat it with diet and exercise. Good luck.

Did you find a Solomon answer in your quiz? Hah. I cheated cos I was a geography teacher.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 04, 2018, 02:44:39 PM
The doctor said she usually starts with diet and exercise, but I'm normal weight and do CrossFit five times a week, so not much to do there. Cutting back on carbs is a little tricky, but ... I guess it's worth it.


I was wise, like Solomon. And I wasn't a geography teacher. But I did write a lot of history crap.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on October 05, 2018, 12:56:20 AM
Oh crap Patti, which type did the diagnosis say?
I don't know one from the other but a friends 8 year old just diagnosed with Type 1
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 05, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
I'm not full anything. I am not yet up to Type 2 but it seems to be treated fairly similar to Type 2.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 05, 2018, 04:37:50 AM
I had a long weekend.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Firefly on October 05, 2018, 06:27:09 AM
I'm not full anything. I am not yet up to Type 2 but it seems to be treated fairly similar to Type 2.

Ah OK mate, good luck  :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 05, 2018, 12:15:06 PM
I'm drinking coffee so nothing much has changed here.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 05, 2018, 10:16:34 PM
I’ve been in India a week now, and I am surprised by the poverty (even given that I was primed to expect it)

I’m trying to work out why they aren’t a rich country: they have ample natural resources, the people are hard-working (as far as I have seen) and they are always looking for opportunities to make money (again, as far as I have seen)

I wondered if it was a lasting effect of colonialism (seems unlikely, as other colonies have managed to thrive after achieving self rule), the caste system (ie, because it’s very difficult to better your circumstances), or the lack of a social safety net (ie, as the rich get richer and it becomes harder and harder for the poor to find any niche in the market)

I asked around, and the overwhelming belief seems to be that the issue is government corruption (which ties into my social safety net theory, as the rich buy their way to avoid laws and pressure the government, and taxes go toward feathering nests rather than building infrastructure and elevating people)

I’ve seen lots of abandoned building projects, many many slums where people live in make-shift houses made from plastic sheeting and corrugated metal and palm fronds and whatever other materials could be salvaged from waste. And, given their reverence for Ghandi, and the importance he placed on sanitation, it is surprising that there seems to be extremely ineffective (or possibly even non-existent) govt coordination of waste removal. There is litter and rotting rubbish everywhere. And very aggressive begging in the form of trying to sell you stuff you don’t want (they don’t take no for an answer). And then, alongside them, super-rich / millionaires living in mansions and driving flash cars.

Whenever I go to countries where there is unregulated capitalism and no social safety net, they look like this. I wonder how / if it can be changed, when all the power seems to be in the hands of a very few?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 06, 2018, 12:03:59 AM
There is some guy who looks at global issues of poverty and such and his numbers show that poor people have lots more babies because, being poor and lacking funds for current level medical care, more of their children die. And they need the kids to help with what is mostly unskilled labor.

When people get richer, better educated, more medical care, etc. they stop having so many kids and things improve dramatically.

I think it is something we aren't supposed to talk about, tho.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 06, 2018, 04:42:31 AM
I can't stop coughing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 06, 2018, 09:37:31 AM
Have you seen any of the beautiful places in India, Amie? I know they exist but from what I've heard and read of the populous cities,  much of it sounds like a veritable sh*t hole. We hear stories here, about men in India, drowning in manholes of excrement. What keeps people down to the point of not being able to organize and rise up above the hierarchy to build a plumbing infrastructure? And what kind of government is okay with having their people die in their own waste? Does the religion keep people from a civil war?

These things are beyond my lesser educated and more idealistic years, but with the Trump administration's EPA allowing higher radiation, lowering carbon emission standards, more tar on the beaches from offshore drilling, etc,. etc., as well as all of the other lowered standards many Americans are faced with, I'm beginning to see how things can spiral out of control.  Even so, I can't see us putting up with things deterioration to complete sh*t.


Speaking of which, I'm rebounding from food poisoning. Luckily, less than twenty-four hours and I think I'm on the upswing but, ugh. I avoided morning sickness as much as possible with my two pregnancies. Heaven forbid I'm ever subjected to chemo. I would seriously consider passing on it. That's how much I hate to be sick at my stomach.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 06, 2018, 09:39:07 AM
I can't stop coughing.
So you've told us, more than once, in a few threads. Go to the doctor already. Get well soon. :-*
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 06, 2018, 11:40:59 AM
I couldn't figure out why my legs hurt last night. Then I mathed.

Back squats were five sets of five. I was using 80 pounds which is both wonderful (for me) and not all that much (for people young enough to be my children or grandchildren). But not counting the warm up sets or anything, that a ton. I squatted a ton yesterday. Damn.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 06, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
I believe that deserves a cape polishing and perhaps some gold engraving, Patti.


A little Tennessee Ernie Ford for ya'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 06, 2018, 01:57:19 PM
Deb, we went to a lovely little oasis between Calangute and Baga Beach. I wouldn’t recommend either place in itself, but the little haven we stayed on the beach was idyllic.

Spell, I don’t think it’s having masses of babies that makes people poor here. The middle and upper classes have lots of babies too - they just have more money to feed, clothe and educate them.

I am deciding that Indian cities are not my thing. It’s the filth and litter I can’t stand.  You cannot imagine. Paul freaks out when a badger gets into our rubbish, but most of the city here (currently in Chennai, which is way cleaner than Mumbai) looks like badgers have been partying with rubbish 24-7 for the last hundred years. And cows and dogs (and rats and birds and goats) everywhere feeding off the rubbish.

We were wimps and got an air-conditioned car tour (well, we both also have Delhi Belly, so had to take it easy). But one weird thing: the taxi driver was cleaning out the taxi (super-lush by Indian standards, so I’m not surprised he wanted to keep it clean) and then he dusted our shoes after we got in the car. He said, “Being clean, very important for English people”. And suddenly I wondered - is there so much dirt and litter and fly-tipping everywhere because they just don’t care, rather than because the govt doesn’t provide for sanitation services? But then, the rich neighbourhoods he drove us through we’re all very clean, so I think it’s the lack of public services. And if the govt kicked in, what would the cows eat? (That last was not serious, in case you were wondering)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 06, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
They would have to resort to cownabalism. :P ::)
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Post by: Noizchild on October 07, 2018, 02:52:25 AM
Soylent green
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 07, 2018, 04:01:19 AM
So, last night we had what might be considered a typical Indian evening: we went to the mall, then watched “Dance Deewane” on tv.

I’ve never been much of a mall person (didn’t like them when I lived in the US; they barely exist in the UK and I don’t miss them) but the concierge was really pushing this as a thing to do, so I thought there must be something special about it (also, we’re both feeling ill and didn’t feel like exploring the rubbish and rat-infested streets in the dark)

There were two malls within walking distance of our hotel. Quick impressions:

1. Traffic is crazy. Crazy crazy. It’s amazing that anyone walks anywhere. To cross the street, it seems like you have to dare the drivers to hit you and count on their better natures. Which is what all the Indians did, so after plucking up considerable courage and seeing a 2 second gap in the fast traffic, we did too

2. First mall was different from a Western mall. So, interesting from that perspective. It was a bit like a market, but selling just Indian stuff - at Western prices. There were only two places to eat there, and both looked rather grubby (my stomach is wary), so we tried the second mall.

3. Although it is only a 5 minute walk, it seemed safer to get a taxi. They have these little speedy golf cart things all over the place. Our concierge said it should cost no more than 50 rupees, so don’t believe them if they try to ask for more. They started at 300 rupees and dropped it to 100 when we started walking away.

4. The second mall was much more lively (aka “heaving”), and it does seem to be true that this is a major social focal point. It was just like a Western mall. I cannot fathom what the appeal is.

5.”Dance Deewane” is cool. These people are super-talented. There seems to be some unwritten law though that you can only be on TV if you skin is as white as a European. They did not look like the people we saw on the streets, not even the wealthy Indians staying at our hotel. It’s a shame they don’t appreciate how lovely brown skin is, but I guess it’s this farmer-worker bias thing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 07, 2018, 04:20:43 AM
Oh, the other thing about “Dance Deewane”:

6.  The show is mostly in Hindi, but they throw in English words and phrases about 10-20% of the time. Like Hindi-English is one big extended language, rather than two separate languages. I wonder what makes them decide to use English words, that 10-20% of the time? A judge would be speaking in Hindi and then interject with, “Truly, you have a god-given talent” or “you have energy, humour, vitality”, or “this is magnificent”, etc - Why do they suddenly switch from Hindi? And the dancers would usually reply in English also (mostly “Thank you sir” or “Thank you ma’am”) - but that is slightly more understandable, as their local language might not be Hindi. Maybe the judges like to put the praise into English in case the contestant doesn’t speak Hindi? (But I think Hindi is more prevalent than English, so not sure about that either)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 07, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
The experience of another culture is always educational but I don't think I'll add a visit to India to my bucket list. I'm satisfied with experiencing it vicariously, through your eyes.  ;)

I hope you and the hubby are feeling better.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 07, 2018, 12:43:07 PM
I had to go to a party last night. A bunch of old people get even older in October, so it was like a communal birthday party. It went better than I expected. Hours of being with people people have left me feeling drained even though there were only a handful of us there.

I'm getting more insular in my old age.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on October 07, 2018, 02:51:20 PM
I think we all wondered if that was what would happen at the recent family gathering, a bunch of old people talking about 'me operation'.  The subject was touched upon fairly lightly a few times, but mine was discretely played down as Cousin Tony died from prostate cancer because they didn't catch it in time.  None of us wanted to upset his Mum.

We have for more interesting things to talk about

But I did get buttonholed about it by another male cousin when his mum was away in 'the little girls room'.  I gave him the condensed version.  Maybe his wife's been pressuring him to have himself checked.

Hip replacements got a more thorough airing because there were several potential candidates around the table, and one who is just waiting for his op date.  Another ex-postie who has, basically, just worn out the joints.

At least four of us who would be dead if it wasn't for long term medication, but that was hardly worth mentioning once we'd accepted it ourselves so it never arose.

But as a writer I did briefly imagine the reaper checking his records, looking at our group and thinking "I wonder if I could drop a meteorite and round up all those overdue bastards in one hit."  Just to tidy the books.

Gyppo
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Post by: Amie on October 07, 2018, 02:58:23 PM
Deb, I think India could be the most amazing country (many people already think it is) - but they need to clean it up. Not for tourists, but for the well-being of their own people (though tourists would benefit too)

Today we went to the zoo. I don’t like zoos, but this was called a “wildlife refuge” and again, it is was billed as a top attraction. It was a zoo, not a refuge.

We befriended an Indian fighter pilot who honestly looked like an Indian Tom Cruise.

We rented electric bikes to tour the zoo / “refuge”. Apart from being sad to see so many animals in cages (just the dangerous ones, and they claimed it was only sick and old ones, that couldn’t fend for themselves in the wild -  I don’t believe it btw, they looked young and healthy, so it was a bit uncomfortable for me), it was a nice day. The zoo / “refuge” was an interesting view on Indian middle class life, and it was pleasant riding the electric bikes through the park

More teen boys wanted selfies with me. That is so weird. Indian Tom Cruise said, “they are country folk, seeing a white person is very exciting for them.” 
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on October 07, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
When Kizzi was teaching school in Tanzania all the boys, most of the the girls, and some of the teachers wanted their picture taken with 'the white lady'.  When her time was up and she was due to leave it was another mad round of photos, but this time with 'Miss Kizzi'.

One of the other student teachers was a bit miffed because she rarely got asked.  Kizzi says it was because she was a miserable person who didn't 'muck in' with the locals.

This picture is from just after she got back.    As she points out, most of the kids in her classes, sometimes up to 100, carried a Panga to protect them against wild dogs when they walked in to school.  Some teachers were nervous about this, but Kizzi grew up around knives seen as 'tools before weapons'.

Like me she generally gets on with most people unless they go out of their way to be awkward.  In which case we either simply ignore them or deal with them.

Left click to read the t-shirt.
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Post by: Amie on October 07, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
I like that: “Cute but psycho” :)

We went to this restaurant this evening: http://annalakshmichennai.com/menu/

The food was delicious, and the interior was very clean and nicely decorated (and air-conditioned - a nice plus)

This menu (about £10 / $16 for 7 courses) is pretty expensive for India - the restaurant across the street from our hotel proudly advertises: “No meal over 89 Rupees!”. It was packed, and lots of people there seemed to be celebrating something special. And they don’t even serve wine (to be fair, none of the restaurants in this part of India seem to)

We both had the “Mahalakshmi Preethi Bhojan” menu at the waiter’s recommendation. I was so stuffed after the second course that I was only able to manage a few mouthfuls of each of the remaining courses (just to taste). And even so, they tried to offer us second helpings of each course.

I was taken by the waiter making a point of telling us the salad had been washed in “safe” water. It seems that it’s not just delicate western stomachs that have a problem - Indian Tom Cruise also warned us off drinking bottled drinks that are not from a brand we recognise (!).he said he’s become very sick sometimes after drinking local bottled sodas, and there are no guarantees of sanitation levels just because something comes bottled from a factory (!)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 08, 2018, 03:47:22 AM
I will try to play Sims tonight.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 08, 2018, 04:53:46 AM
We’re off to Kochi today. Indian Tom Cruise (ITC if I mention him again) said it is much cleaner than Mumbai or Chennai, so I googled to see what we might expect. This picture in this article, litter-filled as it is, does actually look about 100 times better than Mumbai or Chennai. Not kidding: https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Mangalore/planting-saplings-clearing-garbage-mark-environment-day-celebrations/article18725437.ece

What is the point of having a government if they can’t attend to basic needs like this? And then I remembered an activist I met who was campaigning to get single-use syringes as standard in Indian hospitals and clinics. Apparently HIV and hepatitis are frequently spread through the childhood vaccinations programmes, as people have to pay for new unused syringes, but the used syringes are free. You think stuff like this is exaggerated until you actually come here.

People who argue against basic government regulations and services are morons (apologies to any such morons reading this, we can debate later).

(and just to be clear, there is obvious and sometimes extreme wealth in pockets in India, so the issue is not unavailability of resources. It is just that all the money stays with the rich, the gaps between rich and poor are enormous. It’s like seeing “Elysium” played out for real.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 08, 2018, 10:04:04 AM
That is a shame, Amie. Still, how have the masses not risen up? Clearly, there is a great disconnect and the poor certainly outnumber the rich. Is there a militant front backed by money or does religion have the capabilities to shame people into inferior lives?

I suppose I could read up on this stuff, but at the moment, I'm barely treading water.

That's the scary part, being crushed to the point of giving up.

Have these people given up? Where is their drive to live better? Can they not form some sort of community activism on at least, local levels?

_____________________________________________________

I still cannot post a picture here, and it's driving me bonkers. I need a step-by-step. from my scan-disk, computer, or my cell phone, to this website. There are too many 'fixes' available on the internet that do not work, or that I am too thick headed to grasp. My best bet is a walk through.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 08, 2018, 12:17:53 PM
Part of the reason religion and custom and "the way we do things" works so well is because it becomes impossible to think outside that particular box. When your caste system says "only these people are this and you are that" then they are this and you are that. To overcome that first hurdle is a massive leap.

I believe the caste system is tied to the religious teachings as you return as crappy people if you lived a mean past life, so basically, you deserve all the shit.

The Catholic Church used this method of control over Europe in the Middle Ages to great effect.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 08, 2018, 06:26:18 PM
Deb, I asked a lady in Chennai about that this morning. She was saying how corrupt the government is, that they take their taxes and give everything to themselves and their cronies, and nothing to ordinary people. I said, “I’ve heard several Indians say this in the short time I’ve been here - can’t you find honest, good people and support them to run for office?” She said, “it’s all rigged, there’s no point”. Paul said, “can’t you protest, take to the streets?” She said, “the police and judiciary are all paid for too”

And this afternoon we flew to Kerala. It is much nicer here. We are staying in Fort Kochi and it’s lovely. At least, I think it’s lovely. It might be that I only think it’s lovely in comparison to the filth and squalor we’ve experienced previously. But I think it’s lovely. We did see a fair amount of litter on the drive towards Fort Kochi, but it was at a more normal level, rather than the levels we saw before which you would associate with lack of sanitation and high infant mortality (not wanting to sound overly dramatic, but these are places where you see children under 5 begging and sleeping on concrete amidst rats and trash and roaring traffic.)

Then we got to Fort Kochi and I thought “this is more what I expected India to be like”. Which is kind of dumb of me, because what it actually looks like is an old Portuguese fishing village that was invaded by the Spanish and then invaded by the French, and one day someone cracked open a bottle of port and said, “why don’t we all stop fighting and live together in harmony, this place is great”

Then I felt guilty, because I realised what I was liking was probably a series of colonial invasions that killed off the indigenous culture. I still don’t know what an “Indian” town looks like. All I’ve seen is masses of rotting concrete blocks, slums built of flotsam and jetsam, a bit of Art Deco, some Victoriana and woven palm huts (for tourists). And now the ancient Portuguese-Spanish-French-type fishing village (which we’ve learned now was originally Chinese). And which, forgive me, is lovely. And clean. And lovely.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 08, 2018, 06:50:07 PM
Spell, I do suspect that the caste system plays a part, but it does seem like government corruption is a big factor. Probably linked in many ways to the caste system.

Also, I don’t know if this plays any part at all, but there does seem to be a very different perspective at play too. One guy was telling us how great Kolkata is. He kept going on about how cheap it is - “ten times cheaper than anything here” (keeping in mind that Chennai is already really cheap, by Western standards). And each time he described it as “cheap”, he simultaneously described it “really nice” (as in “Kolkata is really nice, better than here, it’s so cheap, you can buy everything there for nothing”). So, since he kept saying it was nice, I tentatively asked, “So... it’s cleaner than here? Less litter and rubbish? Less traffic?”  And his face fell and he said, “No, it is the same.”
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 09, 2018, 04:46:33 AM
I hate when my laptop freezes up on me.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on October 09, 2018, 09:58:38 AM
Then light a bonfire under the bloody thing ;-)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 09, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
I had another doctor's appointment yesterday and point blank asked exactly what a "low carb" diet was, after her telling me a chiropractor will be of little use for my original problem. So the big answer that started all this mess was "no".

But to the question of the day, she didn't want to give me a definitive answer. I still can't figure out why. If you can figure out the dosage of a pill, can't you figure out the underlying dosage of the "disease" part? My registered dietician is trustworthy and gave me good advice. I will stick to it, but really hoped the damn doctor would corroborate my current plan.

And my home blood pressure cuff and her office blood pressure cuff were similar, but she was worried that mine was giving me a false low. Mine was actually a bit higher than hers, twice. So we can assume those 98/60 blood pressure numbers here at home were accurate enough to not warrant high blood pressure medication.

But I still have to go and talk to a spine doctor so he/she, too, can tell me my spine is crooked. This is something I diagnosed for myself years ago. Duh.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 09, 2018, 01:26:36 PM
Patti, I thought you used to be a nurse? Have I confused you with someone else?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Gyppo on October 09, 2018, 02:30:29 PM
That's probably why the doctor doesn't know how to deal with her.  Most nurses will tell you they make the worst patients.

It's a bit like grammarians and writers.  The first think they know all about the English language and writers think they know the best way to tell a story.  These are often two totally different things, but because they both use the same basic building blocks we tend to assume they are the same.  (I guess it's like two mathematicians, one who is more comfortable in binary and the other in hex.  Same end result, but a different path.)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 09, 2018, 02:57:03 PM
I did used to be a nurse. But I've never been a dietician. I just served what the cafeteria sent up, when my patients could eat. But for most of my career, I worked in surgery and we don't feed those people at all.

Because I'm a nurse, I know how to hit numbers. I also know what the numbers say and what they don't say. I know too much to be silent. I am trying to be a compliant patient myself, but to do so means I have to have some instruction. Low Carb can mean between 10 and 350 grams of carbs per day. I needed a smaller target. Anyone should be able to hit that range as given.

I lost three pounds in 1.5 weeks on my version of this and I don't think that is sustainable, since I'm not currently overweight. But ... I would not mind losing another five pounds or so, just not more than that.

I know enough to be a pain in the ass, but I don't know enough to be my own doctor. It's an untenable position.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 10, 2018, 03:14:27 AM
My coughing won't stop.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 10, 2018, 01:14:26 PM
I could really go for a wonderful cup of coffee and a Belgium waffle topped with strawberries and whipped cream.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 10, 2018, 04:34:13 PM
My official declaration is that Kerala is lovely. There are poor people here, but it is more like a European or US version of poor, rather than children will die due to lack of adequate nutrition or sanitation level of poor. And there isn’t the extreme of divide between rich and poor either - we’ve seen some luxury homes, but not billionaire mansions next to plastic tents. Generally the area seems reasonably prosperous.

The first thing I noticed driving toward Fort Kochi was all the children in the streets - it was about 4 pm, and they were obviously just out of school, in their crisp school uniforms and alighting from extremely normal looking school buses. Children everywhere, looking happy and healthy and normal, rather than begging for scraps in the streets. And they all speak English and seem to love tourists. We asked some first graders if we could take a picture with them (tha probably sounds weird - it just made me so happy to see normal healthy children that I wanted to capture the moment) and they acted like we’d asked them if they’d like an ice cream cone or a puppy or a ride on a pony :) - every day since then, I’ve been struck by all the children in the streets in very tidy school uniforms. I’ve never seen school children in uniforms anywhere else in India.

To my shock, the local government is communist. I’m not particularly right wing (in fact, by US standards I’d be considered a loony lefty because I’m in favour of universal healthcare), but prosperity + communist does not compute for me. Also, I never think of communists getting elected - I thought they were like fascists, taking hold via a coup. I expressed this surprise to a local man and he said, “they aren’t real communists, they are extremely rich. They’ll be out at the next election.”

Like every other Indian I’ve spoken to, he was convinced that the government is completely corrupt, and just lining their own pockets. I said. “But Kerala seems very prosperous”. He said, “that’s nothing to do with the government. We have 100% literacy in Kerala, the only state in India which is 100% literate. The only state in India where education is 100% free up to the age of 12 - everything free - classes, books, uniforms, meals, buses, everything. There is no begging in Kerala, no people sleeping on the streets, everyone has jobs because everyone is educated. The government has to give people incentives to farm because everyone wants to do higher jobs but we need farmers and fishermen.”  I said, “Surely the government must get some credit for that?, for universal free education?” Again he said, “It’s nothing to do with the government. Christian missionaries came here and insisted on education everywhere. Now we would never let anyone take that away from us”

He also expressed the same opinion that practically every other Indian I’ve had a conversation with has expressed - that India is rich in resources and there is enough for everyone to be prosperous, but the government is corrupt etc. It’s a shame the other Indian states couldn’t learn from Kerala, about the benefits of universal free education to establish basic literacy and numeracy.

This has been an extremely interesting couple of weeks.

Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: DGSquared on October 10, 2018, 10:14:30 PM

The first thing I noticed driving toward Fort Kochi was all the children in the streets - it was about 4 pm, and they were obviously just out of school, in their crisp school uniforms and alighting from extremely normal looking school buses. Children everywhere, looking happy and healthy and normal, rather than begging for scraps in the streets. And they all speak English and seem to love tourists. We asked some first graders if we could take a picture with them (tha probably sounds weird - it just made me so happy to see normal healthy children that I wanted to capture the moment) and they acted like we’d asked them if they’d like an ice cream cone or a puppy or a ride on a pony :) - every day since then, I’ve been struck by all the children in the streets in very tidy school uniforms. I’ve never seen school children in uniforms anywhere else in India.
Ha ha ha! From anyone else, I'd think, "Hm, maybe a bit creepy" but not from you. In my estimation, you are the furthest from creepy one can get. Happy to hear you're seeing better sights. How's the tummy? :)

I had another doctor's appointment yesterday and point blank asked exactly what a "low carb" diet was, after her telling me a chiropractor will be of little use for my original problem. So the big answer that started all this mess was "no".

But I still have to go and talk to a spine doctor so he/she, too, can tell me my spine is crooked. This is something I diagnosed for myself years ago. Duh.

Go to a reputable, word of mouth, from someone you trust, chiropractor. Just do it. It can't hurt anything. Tell the chiropractor what your other doctor has been saying. Don't let them suck you into the system. Too many doctors in the US these days are corrupt. Just do it, and drink lots of water. Water is good for your spine. You know this. Coffee, not so much, as it is a diuretic.


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We stopped in the art gallery of, Mee Shim, where she was working and chatted with her for awhile. She was difficult to understand since I don't hear well and her accent was thick. Still, an enjoyable chat. Her art is unique and inspiring IMHO. Check her out at, meekyungshim.com. <-- That link didn't work for me because of my Adobe Flash, but here is the link to her site (https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x80d954b23c145cc7:0x6b1378355ba30919!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/mee%2Bshim/@32.725094,-117.1686075,3a,75y,73.55h,90t/data%3D*213m4*211e1*213m2*211sAKjyRUuLTmY20pTj2W7nFQ*212e0*214m2*213m1*211s0x80d954b23c145cc7:0x6b1378355ba30919!5smee+shim+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e2!2sAKjyRUuLTmY20pTj2W7nFQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjO8LHW5fzdAhVQnOAKHUdcB1cQoB8wEHoECAoQDg).

It was a lovely evening and I was stuffed enough that the twelve hour fast I needed for my blood work was not a problem. Plus, I'm more inspired to paint.



I brought my dusty paint supplies with me to San Diego, and I think I'm going to paint later this afternoon. It's such a healing thing for me. It's wonderful to be in light surroundings with both efficient natural and artificial light for painting. I feel uplifted just thinking about it.

 Hope everyone is having a good day. I am. 8)

My coughing won't stop.


Patti, do you have the expertise to help me decipher my results from my blood tests when they come in?

My coughing won't stop.
So, you've mentioned a dozen times or more. Child, get your fanny to a doctor already. What's the holdup?  ??? Says the woman who postponed her lab tests for a month. ;)
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 10, 2018, 11:02:17 PM
I might, but even a crappy doctor is supposed to do that part. A number is meaningless. But if you have some further questions you think of later, I might have answer. Just realize I had to call in my own specialists on my own recent diagnosis.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 11, 2018, 05:04:15 AM
I need to defrag my laptop.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 11, 2018, 05:15:00 AM
Patti, does something like this help, or are you looking for specific carb counts tailored to your BMI and severity of condition?

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/enjoy-food/eating-with-diabetes/meal-plans-/low-carb
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 11, 2018, 05:17:51 AM
The site says: “Currently, there is no agreement about the definition of a low-carb diet - but, anything providing less than 130g/day of a 2000kcal diet (26 per cent of energy) is considered 'low-carb'. Anything less than 30g/day of 2000kcal diet (6 per cent energy) is considered very low-carbohydrate ketogenic and is not recommended as research suggests this is not sustainable even in the medium term.”

So maybe that’s why you can’t get your doctor to give you specifics?

I would have thought they’d give you a dietician.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 11, 2018, 12:17:44 PM
They have group meetings arranged quarterly and I just missed the previous quarter. There is a meeting in December and I am going.

I have been able to keep my carbs lower without being hungry. I eat only half a serving of pasta and add more veggies along side it. I have some special tortillas. I've eaten more sweet potatoes instead of white potatoes. I have only half an English muffin with my breakfast - which is enough to go with my fancy no crust quiche type egg with a bunch of goodies added that only take 30 seconds to heat while I toast. Just cutting back on some of the more egregious carb intake has helped.

I'm going to guess my higher than needed blood sugar was driving my appetite because since I've cut the carbs back, I have not been hungry at all, even on the day when I ate less than 1000 calories. That pretty much horrified me and it wasn't a gym day, but the next morning I burned through a little over 500 calories in my hour at the gym and I was rather sluggish. Although that just could have been the twenty split jerks at 90% of my highest weight ever.

I actually feel better right now without the constant looking for food. I just have to remember to get in enough calories on not gym days when I don't consume my pre- and post-workout nutritional supplements.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 11, 2018, 04:50:48 PM
Today is international day of the girl or something.

Bing's homepage has this picture.

I never heard of Fort Kochi before!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 11, 2018, 05:11:04 PM
What a strange coincidence!
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 11, 2018, 05:23:23 PM
Even stranger, I googled “Fort Kochi schoolgirls” because I’ve seen dozens of uniforms here, but none that look like that (all the ones I’ve seen have colour - usually blue or red, sometimes green)

Then I saw this picture: https://goo.gl/images/DPRMHn

I think the second girl on the left might be one of the girls who took a photo with me. Or maybe her sister, if the picture above is a few years old.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Spell Chick on October 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
I felt so worldly, having actually recognized the name. That reading stuff really works, doesn't it?
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Noizchild on October 12, 2018, 04:50:57 AM
I still can't stop coughing.
Title: Re: BWF Bar and Grill
Post by: Amie on October 12, 2018, 05:03:47 AM
You should go to the doctor.

Do you have insurance? Would be a good idea to get insurance if you don’t (chances are all is fine, but just in case)
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Post by: Spell Chick on October 12, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
Chances are it is bronchitis and you need a round of antibiotics. Or pneumonia. Same treatment.
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Post by: Amie on October 13, 2018, 04:24:39 AM
I agree that it’s probably some kind of chest infection. Just the warning about insurance because a US colleague of mine went to the doctor for a persistent cough when he was between jobs (and therefore between insurance) and it turned out to be much more serious. Luckily the doctor told him she would throw away her notes (and X-rays), and advised him to go get insurance (he was due to start a new job with my company a few weeks later) and come back. He said he’d be dead now if it weren’t for that doctor.
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Post by: Noizchild on October 13, 2018, 06:47:21 AM
I have been out of whack.
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Post by: Amie on October 13, 2018, 08:00:56 AM
I had a cold for almost a year. I didn’t go to the doctor because a) I was busy and b) I kept thinking I was nearly better and then c) the cold would get worse again, so bad that it was more like flu and I didn’t feel up to walking to the doctor’s.

I finally went to the doctor about 6 weeks before it was gone for good (at which point I was feeling almost better again, but since I’d had the cold about ten months by then I’d learned not to trust the apparent period of remission). They did some blood tests, but nothing else. I assumed they’d get back to me if the blood tests indicated anything serious - I never heard back, so I assume all was okay. The doctor did say that there were lots of really long-duration colds going around that year.

Anyway, you should see a doctor. Maybe if I’d gone early they could have given me some antibiotics and I wouldn’t have had to suffer with the year-long cold (by the end I was severely depressed, wondering if I’d ever be healthy again)
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Post by: Spell Chick on October 13, 2018, 12:00:52 PM
I have an online friend, in the Facebook sense, who used to be a nurse's aide so she knows stuff. Everyone who ever mentions anything about being sick gets the same message from her. It's probably cancer. She knew someone in the hospital who had cancer. Amazingly enough, lots of cancer patients are hospitalized while the rest of the world gets a cute piece of paper with illegible writing on it, goes to the pharmacy (chemist) and gets a little bottle of magic. Then they get better.

Most of the time, most of our sicknesses are easily healed (nowadays) with current treatments available. Most of the time, most of our sicknesses are not lethal, are not dire, are just inconvenient.

Now, I have to go and count some carbs.
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Post by: DGSquared on October 13, 2018, 03:11:31 PM


I still can't stop coughing.
You should go to the doctor.
This is what I've been telling her.
Chances are it is bronchitis and you need a round of antibiotics. Or pneumonia. Same treatment.
I agree.

You know you can scar your lungs, Noizchild. Too much scarring will inhibit your lungs ability to move oxygen to your bloodstream. Be careful, or you may end up with an oxygen tank to carry around and tubes up your nose. Just sayin'.
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Post by: Amie on October 13, 2018, 09:12:30 PM
Back in England now. I am amazed by how clean and quiet the motorway is. And people actually driving in their lanes, rather than straddling two. No honking and no rubbish. No cows or dogs. I never knew how lucky I was.
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Post by: Spell Chick on October 13, 2018, 10:53:56 PM
The Sonoran desert is beautiful. It is the only place in the world with Saguaro cactuses, those many armed beasts rising taller than some trees. The sandstone has been polished by wind and dust.

And I'm always stunned by the green of home when I return.
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Post by: Noizchild on October 14, 2018, 02:55:30 AM
I will try to finish in time.
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Post by: DGSquared on October 14, 2018, 07:47:52 AM
Welcome home Amie. I bet sleeping in your own bed will be wonderful tonight. ;)  I hope you enjoyed your trip. I feel more educated or, perhaps, aware, is a better word, after traveling anywhere. People and places are fascinating.

When crossing state lines, you can often see abrupt changes to the landscape and witness extreme attitude changes in the people you interact with. 

When I drove my mom up to Indiana from Texas, we passed through Arkansas, where everyone was happy, helpful, and friendly. The roads were in good repair, there was no trash on the roadside, and the brush along the highways was trimmed and neat.

As soon as we passed the, "Welcome to Mississippi" sign, brush on the road was overgrown, there was trash on the roadside, the roads were horrible, and people were either, on the take, or nasty and rude. Not everyone, but there was a definite attitude change.

The difference in culture from one state to another can be bizarre.  In a little over 200 years, Americans have evolved into diverse communities with wildly different perspectives.

I imagine it's the same in the UK.
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Post by: Amie on October 14, 2018, 08:28:33 AM
I don’t notice as much of a difference, going from one part of the U.K. to another. Nothing as dramatic as you describe anyway.

I wonder if state governments have an impact? When I lived in the US, Mississippi had one of the highest (if not the highest) levels of liilteracy in the country. Things like roads also reflect the effectiveness of the local government. And maybe if you think your government doesn’t care, it infects the rest of society?
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Post by: Gyppo on October 14, 2018, 08:57:53 AM
Where you do notice it in the UK is in how well the different counties deal with heavy snowfall.
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Post by: Spell Chick on October 14, 2018, 12:41:33 PM
Deb, that's what you get for going thru Mississippi when tryin